D'Angelo - Black Messiah (2014)

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btw, Modern Neo Feminism isn't political at all, it's a club. An identity club. They're not fighting for any cause.

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:52 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

remind me why you guys are even dignifying this idiot by providing cogent arguments for him to brickwall with nonsense?

un chill goon (some dude), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

i wonder that too. i wondered that about geir.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

i wonder something similar whenever i see the ott thread bumped, which is all the time

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

haha the ott thing I really don't understand since the dude doesn't even post here

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

well indeed, and yet and yet 100 new answers every fucking week

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

guys, feeding of raccoons raises their comfort level with human interaction which is dangerous for everyone involved

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

we'd probably warm to RT more if we could see the bushy tail.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

Dont get too warm

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link

we'd probably warm to RT more if we could see the bushy tail.

http://www.lyricsmode.com/i/bpictures/1797.jpg

Well, yeah.

contenderizer, Thursday, 8 January 2015 04:07 (nine years ago) link

The Apollo Theater Presents a Special Evening with D’Angelo & the Vanguard: Black Messiah
Saturday, Feb. 7 | 8 PM
Tickets go on sale to the general public on Wednesday, Jan. 21 at 10 AM.

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 January 2015 13:01 (nine years ago) link

this is the first time I've opened this thread…have been too intimated by the prospect of keeping up…just am curious if anyone has heard any of the songs via the radio or means other than making a decision to listen to it? I haven't: I listen to Sirius's modern R&B/hip-hop stations all day long and occasionally terrestrial like Hot 97 or Power 105 in the NYC area when I'm in the car, and I have not heard any songs via these means. Haven't tried WBLS or classic black music options.

Is this weird? is his shit too archaic, sounding old compared to, I dunno, rae sremmurd or K. Michelle or the guy who does "I don't fuck with you or anything that you do" or DJ mustard shit?

and has raccoon dude used the phrase "social justice warriors" yet?

veronica moser, Monday, 19 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

i have not heard about d'angelo getting radio play in NYC; BLS is certainly where it would happen but I think you're right that this is "too weird" for pop radio right now. Plus, no video that I'm aware of and not much of an effort to push a single.

Racoon dude has been banned but you should check this thread out; it's his thesis statement:
What happened to socially/politically concious rappers

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 January 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link

I heard "Really Love" on the radio every couple days now, it's slowly rising up the R&B airplay charts. it definitely sounds unlike most other stuff on the air but R&B is pretty varied right now, there's always room for outliers. i don't think it'll hit heavy rotation like "Untitled" or "Lady" or anything, though. curious what else they release as a single.

some dude, Monday, 19 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link

is it that its truly weird? or do you mean that in the present black radio context, he sounds old-fashioned? to me DJ mustard's shit and any number of popular R&B songs are pretty bizarre and advanced…it seems a lot of the time Dangelo's support is somewhat…rockist. Like "this is real music made with real instruments about important shit, not going to the club, strippers, etc etc."

veronica moser, Monday, 19 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

maybe my argument is off but i dunno that these songs have the same impact, out of the context of the album, as singles on the radio. Maybe i'm being naive.

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 January 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link

i wouldn't say 'weird' per se, although D'Angelo's vocal style started out pretty idiosyncratic and has gotten moreso. but the fact that they picked the most traditional romantic ballad on the album to work the radio and it still has a long string intro and classical guitar very heavy in the mix, it's bound to stand out a little bit. the Kem and Charlie Wilson songs that dominate 'adult' R&B radio are downtempo and old-fashioned, but still really polished and slick compared to Black Messiah.

i don't want to make an either/or thing out of Black Messiah or DJ Mustard being way more creative or authentic or whatever than the other, they're both great and brought me a lot of happiness in 2014/2015.

some dude, Monday, 19 January 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link

This is one of those cases where sequencing is shaping the perception of weirdness. Cut "1000 Deaths," or even just move it to the back of the album, and you have an album that's a lot more immediately inviting. Placed as it is, though, that song is like a moat

Evan R, Monday, 19 January 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

I heard the whole album in a cafe a couple days ago.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link

xxp Are they playing the intro when they play it on the radio?

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link

i'm not even really sure, it feels like all of the dozen or so times i've heard "Really Love" on the radio so far i've tuned into a station after the song had already started.

some dude, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link

I heard it twice this weekend on adult R&B, once after Johnny Gil's "My My My" and the other time before TTT's "Let's Get Down."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link

<i>This is one of those cases where sequencing is shaping the perception of weirdness. Cut "1000 Deaths," or even just move it to the back of the album, and you have an album that's a lot more immediately inviting. Placed as it is, though, that song is like a moat</i>

on point

soyrev, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

welp, guessed i learned my HTMLesson

soyrev, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

His Apollo show sold out in seconds, anyone get a ticket?

I failed, sadface

quan voice (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Got a press release announcing a new EP from some act called Danglo and got briefly excited.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link

This album sounds like musical heaven. It's awesome.

all about that ace of base (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:04 (nine years ago) link

A bunch of drongos griping about this album on my FB feed the other weekend, describing it as "critics music" that people only pretend they love.

#Research (stevie), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link

i was trying to get a house ticket at the apollo via a friend... they had no house tix. big sadface.
coulda bought one of those $250 seats but couldn't justify it as a solo thing.

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure a bunch of critics just bought out the Apollo in seconds.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

Lol

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

BM has already become one of my favorite ear candy records ever. just 1 or 2 tracks that I find merely good, rest are great or better. each is strikingly funky/groove-y or strikingly beautiful or strikingly eerie or some combination of those. all the lil flourishes, whether they be from the players or the producer/engineer, just such an interesting listen. The textures are so inviting. When each song starts up, there's a spark of excitement of "oh this is the one where this this and this happens...can't wait." I love this album. And I'm not even too keen on D's singing! (his style always struck me as an affectation, and it seems even more so now. not saying I don't enjoy it, but relative to everything else...)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 24 January 2015 06:54 (nine years ago) link

Otm; this is one of the best sounding albums I've ever heard

YES TYPE all your albums ballot out and post them here (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 24 January 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

is there some really drastic diff b/w the 320 mp3 and CD or vinyl? i think it sounds good but nothing exceptional, as far as prod/mix goes.

soyrev, Saturday, 24 January 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link

I bought the cd but have only listened to 320 mp3 of it. 1st couple listens on smallish bose ipod dock speaker thingee, thought it was pretty good album but wasn't til hiking around with it in my headphones that it hit me fully.

I've been pretty immersed in older music for awhile now, mainly 70s stuff, and haven't been too excited about anything made this century sadly (only recent thing I can think of where I really really dig 3/4 or more of the tracks is RTJ2), everything is either sounding like an inferior rehash or just not suited to my tastes, so BM has made me hopeful that new music can come out that I will fall head over heels for.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 24 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link

this dude is so OTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ2Nq1EdrAA

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

yah, i lost my mind when i hit play on that first track

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

"Voodoo" is a fuckin' masterpiece. It's one of my favorites, out of the two.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

xp "Really Love" is #6 on WBLS this week. I didn't realize there had been recent thread discussion about this, but I was wondering too. I expected "Sugah Daddy" to be the choice, but I guess "Really Love" is pretty safe for their format.

billstevejim, Thursday, 29 January 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link

climbs to #28 on national R&B airplay chart this week

some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link

snl this weekend

gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

oh sweet

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link

good lookin out

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, J.K. Simmons as host and D'Angelo as the musical guest is like a lineup pulled straight from my subconscious.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link

lol i wanna not even click play on that youtube just to preserve the vastly pregnant possibilities the expression on that guy's face seems to hold, he could go in so many directions

j., Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

it's so good, i love him

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link

might actually watch SNL for the first time in who knows how long, can't risk this not going up online.

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link

it is true that this album sounds like another album when you hear it off CD. but i stopped listening to it a while ago now. thats prob just due to having other things interest me, but theres something about BM that i think doesnt make me want to keep playing it. the real joy of it is about being bowled over by the recording and all the tiny details rather than the songs, which is why i think im not that compelled to keep returning to it. but i should give thanks as its made me want to listen to a lot of old funk and soul that i havent touched in years. its made old p-funk and sly sound fresh, which is nice. maybe thats the biggest compliment someone like dangelo would like, which is maybe not that ambitious.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link

That video is so wonderful

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link

that dude is amazing. thank you

jaywbabcock, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link

STRONG LANGUAGE

j., Friday, 30 January 2015 02:01 (nine years ago) link


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