ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

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I say he fits. I enjoyed Flying Fantasy but I think I liked the previous one Hallway of Mirrors more.

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 07:36 (nine years ago) link

yeah got to see him play last year at the Old Famliar Chime fest, def fits....I like Flying Fantasy a lot, he almost verges into Steve Reich/Glass type territory but for guitar at times....like him a lot

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

wow that cover is vintage early 70s haha

is that a step up from tompkin's square?

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

heh heh gotta be going for this
http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0003/591/MI0003591918.jpg
i like that new song a lot! totally cool sound...

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link

Ryley seems like the most marketable of any of this stuff in a lot of ways, he seems to have quite a personality on twitter and he obviously sings as opposed to wm. tyler or bachman

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

yeah i don't know if dead moon is a step up from tompkins necessarily, but it might get him in front of a somewhat different audience.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

Dead Oceans has much better reach / PR / visibility / money, and doesn't have a terrible reputation, so I'd say it's a good move for Ryley.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

Definitely a step up visibility-wise but for some reason when artists I like sign to DO they seem to start sucking so I tend to be wary of this label now. BUT I do like this song a lot so maybe he'll be the exception to the rule.

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

ha does tompkins have a terrible reputation? my only issue is that they are awful at tagging their promo mp3s #firstworldproblems

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

i have heard some kinda sideways comments about the proprietor of certain labels that were similar in tone to jimmy's from others in the know

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

(but yeah i guess i like the shit they put out a lot....fwiw i've heard the nvm3r0 gr0vp dude is completely insane)

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Chuck Johnson got some new stuff too

http://i.imgur.com/6gj2Gne.png

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

woah fred frith dudes

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link

nice! date palms record from last year is great, too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link

JAMES BLACKSHAW: Summoning Suns CD (from Forced Exposure newsletter)
IMPORTANT RECORDS (United States) / IMPREC 407CD
release date: 2/17/2015
https://soundcloud.com/jamesblackshaw/confetti

DESCRIPTION
Summoning Suns is James Blackshaw's tenth studio album and the first recording to feature his voice and lyrics. Drawing inspiration from '60s and '70s singer-songwriters, baroque and orchestral pop, and folk music, while still sounding contemporary, Summoning Suns is Blackshaw's foray into more traditional forms of songcraft. Blackshaw sings in a gentle but assured voice while his words combine his personal experiences, neuroses, and fantasies through many layers of abstraction, poeticism, and dark humor. While the deft acoustic guitar fingerpicking of Blackshaw's previous recordings is still a prominent part of the sound, the songs are lushly and intricately arranged for drums, bass, piano, violin, flute, and pedal steel guitar and feature contributions from Simon Scott (Slowdive), Annie Nilsson, and Japanese musicians Mori Wa Ikiteiru and Kaoru Noda (with whom Blackshaw duets in Japanese on one song). LP pressed in a first edition of 500 copies.

TRACKLISTING
Disc 1 (Disc 2 isn't indicated)
01.Averoign
02.Confetti
03.Failure's Flame
04.Nothing Ever After

05.Summoning Suns

06.Towa No Yume

07. Winter Flies

dow, Thursday, 8 January 2015 00:58 (nine years ago) link

not new by any means but i have really really been digging that pelt album "pearls from the river"

marcos, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

Yeah man that Pelt album is great!

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

I have that but never clicked w/it, will try again

I looove Ayahuasca and Empty Bell

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

Definitely a fan of both of those too sleeve, but yeah give "pearls from the river" another shot. Maybe doesn't hit the weirdo highs as much as "Ayahuasca" or some other tracks, but really dig "Road To Catawba". Any folks looking to do some digging in can hear some here:

http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/pelt-pearls-from-the-river-cd-vhf76

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link

yea i like those other two albums a lot, though i've always found 'pearls' more immediately accessible and engrossing than 'ayahuasca', if due to nothing else than its length tbh, 2 hours is a long record! i definitely need to listen to ayahuasca more.

i think the 2nd and 3rd tracks of 'pearls are especially spectacular - the title track just maintains such a wonderful tension in its drone with all this sadness and fear just simmering throughout, it's really great. 'road to catawba' is just so reflective and peaceful and becomes really joyful at the end, the guitar just interacting with the drone just wonderfully

marcos, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Yep

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

those pelt records are kind of perfect music.
kind of on topic, here's the official word on the upcoming gunn/black twig pickers LP
Steve Gunn and The Black Twig Pickers are key figures in the current resurgence of American traditional and folk music. Gunn’s songwriting and inventive guitar playing are driven by his restless mind, having released 9 solo and collaborative albums and appeared as a guest on nearly as many since his debut in 2007. The Black Twig Pickers play a fervent form of traditional music from their Appalachian homeland. The group performs often forgotten traditional songs, especially from their Virginia stomping-ground, creating a living history of old time music. They also have an ongoing residency at the legendary Floyd Country Store. Their individual works have received extensive praise from Rolling Stone, NPR, the BBC, Mojo, Uncut, Maverick, Elmore, and Pitchfork. Seasonal Hire, their first full-length collaborative release, combines Gunn’s circular, meditative guitar playing with the Twigs’ energetic mastery of old time instrumentation in a purely acoustic environment resulting in a warm,
energetic, and exceptional album.

Seasonal Hire collects four original tunes and one traditional piece, with Gunn and The Black Twig Pickers’ Mike Gangloff and Sally Anne Morgan all taking turns with lead vocal and songwriting. Like all of the Twigs’ albums, it was recorded live, without overdubs or amplification. Gunn fell right in with this aesthetic and threw down guitar parts like he’d been sparring with banjos and fiddles for years. The majority of the album was recorded at Joseph Dejarnette’s Studio 808a in rural Topeco, Virgina, where Gunn and Gangloff recorded Melodies for a Savage Fix, an improvisational masterpiece of pan-cultural meditations. Echoes of Melodies can be heard on Seasonal Hire’s titular b-side, an extended, beautiful ramble equally indebted to old time music and Indian ragas. Additional recording was done closer to Gunn’s New York home at the famed Black Dirt Studios. Black Dirt has been the home for many groundbreaking records by artists such as Charlie Parr, Jack Rose, Bill Orcutt, Expo 70,
and Tom Carter. The album was mastered by Patrick Klem. Seasonal Hire shows the impressive range of some of the most talented and imaginative musicians that have made a name for themselves experimenting in folk forms today.

Steve Gunn and the Black Twig Pickers will continue to perform throughout 2015, and hope to carve out time for some collaborative tour dates. Nathan Bowles of the Twigs is currently on tour with Steve Gunn as his drummer and banjo player.

tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, definitely looking forward to this but would love to see a live incarnation!

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

^^ sounds great

love pearls on the river. that, effigy, and stone for... have been my main pelt listening. suppose i've gotta dig into ayahuasca next. feel like i need to listen to those records in an empty house on a quiet afternoon.

marcus from DFBM posted this on FB today, pretty cool spin on this style (a lot of chops on display, but always in the service of the song):

https://samuelgrayedmondson.bandcamp.com/album/suite

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

pelt fans will be very pleased with the 16-minute title track from this gunn/pickers LP.

tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

Nice! I imagine that this record will be pretty close to the Gunn/Pickers Natch stuff, and if so I am gonna be happy indeed.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

pearls from the river is close to a jack rose album but ayahuasca is much 'heavier'/hard drone, love them both though

ogmor, Thursday, 8 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

another good player apparently living in the same city as me & global! followed me on soundcloud and i followed back, v stately i like this

http://soundcloud.com/marcus_eads/snowsquall

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 January 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link

yes those pelt albums are perfect music. i find them so deeply spiritual. i think i am gonna burn some incense tonight and put on ayahuasca, lol, light some candles! my son's asleep and my wife's at work. i need that right now. you really do need a quiet house for this kind of droney stuff, or else a good long walk.

i had this amazing commute to work when i first got into all this post-fahey stuff. rose, pelt, basho-junghans. it was this perfect 30 minute walk along a reservoir, in the middle of winter everything would freeze over and it was so perfect to put on these sparse reflective drones and take a good walk.

marcos, Friday, 9 January 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link

where to start w/pelt?

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 January 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link

you could jump right in w/ ayahuasca, but as mentioned above i did find pearls from the river an easier entry point. you listen to a ton of this kind of music though so ayahuasca might not seem overwhelming to you.

marcos, Friday, 9 January 2015 01:36 (nine years ago) link

you know who i have really been digging and find a wonderful complement to 'pearls from the river' and other pelt (and no doubt a major inspiration for those albums)? zia mohuiddin dagar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Mohiuddin_Dagar

marcos, Friday, 9 January 2015 01:38 (nine years ago) link

cool thx marcos

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 January 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link

only have empty bell ringing in the sky but it's very awesome and droney! ashamed to say the one time i saw a jack rose lp in a shop i didn't pick it up, think it was kensington blues (regrets)

no lime tangier, Friday, 9 January 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link

you know who i have really been digging and find a wonderful complement to 'pearls from the river' and other pelt (and no doubt a major inspiration for those albums)? zia mohuiddin dagar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Mohiuddin_Dagar

― marcos, Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

second this recommendation, enthusiastically.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 9 January 2015 04:12 (nine years ago) link

Yeah! Any recorded material from the Dagar family is a must. The entire dhrupad facet of raga playing is probably the most referenced style in the experimental community. Slow, loooong alaps, really great stuff.

Neal Cassady, Friday, 9 January 2015 04:36 (nine years ago) link

^^ yeah think someone (musta been marcos) in previous thread recommended him and it's amazing stuff. thanks for the reminder! also something i wanna listen to when nobody is around, just turn it up and zone out kinda

global tetrahedron, Friday, 9 January 2015 05:04 (nine years ago) link

Slow, loooong alaps
this sounds very appealing but what does it mean? real q.

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 9 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link

If you want to know what alaap means, not only will the glossary offer a simple definition, it will also play a little something for you.
INDIA TODAY (1997)

global tetrahedron, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link

(that's the best thing my google-fu could conjur, i think it's just a word for an instrumental indian classical piece?)

global tetrahedron, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alap

complicated! but basically:

the opening section of a typical North Indian classical performance. It is a form of melodic improvisation that introduces and develops a raga.

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 9 January 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

and yes i definitely feel like those zia mohuiddin dagar ragas just develop so wonderfully slowly

marcos, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link

Could be a great thread focused on music that shows this influence. As Neal astutely points out: "The entire dhrupad facet of raga playing is probably the most referenced style in the experimental community". There are whole bands who kind of sit in that territory for large chunks of time, Pelt certainly being one of them.

grandavis, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

ILX Nu-Raga 2015

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 9 January 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

are we talking about the kidn of thing that's happening on pelt's road to catawba?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5GS9dule1o

tylerw, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link

aw shit sorry for the embed...

tylerw, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

No big deal, and yeah, that whole searching lead-up thing is pretty much it.

grandavis, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link

how do you just post a youtube link again? i thought having the s in the https did it ...?

tylerw, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link

haha i know i feel like it took be so long to figure out how to embed but now i just want to link and i can't remember how to do it

marcos, Friday, 9 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link


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