POX: Lee Scratch Perry

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that website (^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^) is great.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

I'm listening to Battle for Armagideon (1986) for the first time and... this seems like the beginning of the end in terms of his quality output, no? It's just so sloppy and half-assed. I recall hearing some of his 90s stuff incl something w Mad Professor back when his initial revival was going on and that stuff wasn't v encouraging either. Sad, it does seem like he had some kind of genuine psychotic break and this is just how he is now.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

yea the psychotic break does seem like a real thing that happened. i haven't heard "battle" before but i'm listening now, i really dug the opener! but now i am a few tracks in and yea the quality does seem pretty low.

how the preceding albums?

marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

dunno, the main one I'm interested in is the Return of Pipecock Jacxon, which I recall being fairly highly praised in People Funny Boy

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

ok i made it through all of "battle" nothing really that good except for "introducing myself"

marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

the main one I'm interested in is the Return of Pipecock Jacxon

found it on youtube fwiw

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5vYbQY_CI

marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

Ah man, he lost his Switzerland studio and archive last night.

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/lee-scratch-perry-studio-burned-down.html

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link

I noticed that the Trojan 2cds that I thought had been deleted were back in HMV. Amazon has a 2015 release date for them.
Dub Triptych is talked about upthread. Though I think by content with a link instead of a name. It's Cloak&Dagger, Blackboard and Revolution dub and pretty great.
Ape-ology has the Jamaican versions of the 2 Super Ape lps alongside Roast Fish, Collie Weed and a few stray singles and session tracks.
Dubstrumentals has Kung Fu meets The Dragon and 2 other 70s lps.
Babylon A Fall is also a 2cd compi but I don't think it's lp related.

Somewhere I have a copy of Grand Royal with a buying guide for him.

Stevolende, Saturday, 5 December 2015 08:26 (eight years ago) link

interview with Lee and his wife about it here. I didn't realise that dude lives twenty minutes from where I work!

Siegbran, Saturday, 5 December 2015 09:21 (eight years ago) link

His positivity in the face of this loss (on his FB) is incredible.

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 5 December 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

I almost always prefer the originals to the dubs of Perry's productions. Are there any instances where someone else created dubs of his tracks? Am I forgetting an obvious collab?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

I can't think of any off the top of my head. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would just pass Upsetters tracks out to other producers.

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Only Jamaican-sourced reporting at present, but it appears he died this morning.

https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Lee_Scratch_Perry_is_dead

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

Wow if true, though of course that guy lived a life.

I thought he still resided in Switzerland?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

Youth has posted about it - he heard via friend who lives in Jamacia.

mark e, Sunday, 29 August 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

Ah fuck. :(

RIP

pomenitul, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

What a life. RIP.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

I interviewed him once and it was exactly what you'd expect. One part lucid, one part lunacy that you just kind of went with. The entire time there were parrots squawking in the background.

Modestly disappointed at how he's being presented as a Jamaican music pioneer, which of course he is, but his approach to the studio stretched so much farther than just reggae and dub. The guy really knew how to sculpt space.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

absolute legend. among the most innovative of alltime. and prolific — the amount of classic music he's at least partially responsible for, holy hell.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 29 August 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

R.I.P., just a titan of sound. Agreed that his influence went way beyond reggae.

Anyone seeking a quick way in should try this compilation from 2007 or so:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/819Id8LOj6L.jpg

This one, which combines Super Ape, Return of the Super Ape, and Roast Fish, Collie Weed & Cornbread on two CDs, is also great.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81FzmyNXPhL.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

been blasting out that huge Arkology comp from '97 which was the first LSP thing I ever bought.

calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link

Damn RIP to a real one

The “Arkology” three disc set has been in my ancient car’s 6 disc changer for literally years now. I never get tired of it

caddy lac brougham? (will), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

ha xpost

caddy lac brougham? (will), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

Yeah, that Arkology compilation was revelatory to me at the time in terms of understanding the scope of his recordings and influence. (And it doesn't even touch on his Wailers and other earlier work.)

I'm a big fan of the full albums he produced for others, Max Romeo, Junior Byles, stuff like that.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Heart of the Congos and War Ina Babylon definitely among his most amazing work.

Yeah, Congos OTM. a high water mark in any context.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

THere wasa great article in one o9f the first couple of Beastie Boys magazine Grand Royal that i found very useful.
It may be up online somewhere.

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

yeah I made a single disc comp of my fav arkology tracks and it’s like the best “album” ever

brimstead, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

it simply has to include Errol Walker's In These Times!

calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

plz share if possible, brimstead

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

Roots Train - Junior Murvin/Dillinger is such a banger

calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

xp

here you go, just one human's opinion but these are all beautiful tracks. yes i do love the police and theives/dreadlock in moonlight riddim
The Meditations - Life Is Not Easy
Junior Murvin - Tedious
The Heptones & Jah Lion - Mr. President
Max Romeo - Chase The Devil
Lee Perry - Dreadlocks In Moonlight
Errol Walker - In These Times
Max Romeo & The Upsetters - Norman
Junior Murvin - Police And Thieves
Upsetters - No Peace Dub
The Upsetters - Party Time (Part 2)
Augustus Pablo Meets The Upsetter - Vibrate On
The Upsetters - Vibrator
The Upsetters - Bird In Hand
The Congoes - Congoman
George Faith - To Be A Lover (Have Some Mercy)
Lee Perry - Curly Locks

brimstead, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

oops idk about the formatting there, copied it from another thread

brimstead, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

RIP u crazy genius, just put Arkology on at floor-shaking volume

sleeve, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

I really love The Super Ape album from '76 as well

calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

thanks, brimstead, looks sick

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

"stand for the right and mash up the wrong"

calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

Don't feel worthy or ready to comment on his passing tbh. 85 is a good age to have reached though!

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

just put on ape-ology. in terms of reissues, this was probably one of my most anticipated albums of all time.

must concur on heart of the congos, police and thieves, + war ina babylon: all complete and total classics.

if we're repping for personal favorites, i've long had a strong affinity for the late 70s album he produced by seke molenga + kalo kawongolo. very much music of the promised land.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjj0CE5njfc

calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

yeah got to recommend those Trojan 2cd sets by Perry. Apeology, Dub Triptych, Dubstrumentals, Wonderman Years, I think I'm missing a couple but they mopped up a load of the Material that I'd wanted since getting that Grand Royal piece on him

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

Disco Devil, The Black Ark Years, Babylon A fall & A Live injection were other titles.
Also the early Wailers set Trenchtown Rock is mainly Perry produced I think. does also include some later 70s Marley stuff with him.

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

'Super Ape Returns to Conquer' which was between a remix/new album with his last touring band and Adrian Sherwood from 2017 is a really good listen. That one was on my CD player for months.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsubatomicsound.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2FSuperApe-1200x.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

earlnash, Sunday, 29 August 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

Roots Train - Junior Murvin/Dillinger is such a banger

This was what I went to put on when I heard the news. It was slower than I remembered, which added urgency to its transcendent hedonic appeal, made its allure more dangerous and thus sexier.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Sunday, 29 August 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

rip to the only person on this planet who actually knew how to use a computer https://t.co/VPLC1xaERG pic.twitter.com/C8tuSrN0qA

— Kyle McDonald (@kcimc) August 29, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 29 August 2021 22:10 (two years ago) link

Aw man RIP. The Black Ark stuff is my favorite "sound of a producer" output of any music ever.
2nd the Seke Molenga album.
My favorite unheralded one is Susan Cadogan's Hurt So Good. Prob partially due to featuring female vocals, which is relatively rare for reggae. Just a touch of pop in the tracks but still unmistakably Scratch.
And George Faith for the "Jamaican quiet storm" lazy Sunday afternoon vibe.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 29 August 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link

Right missed him playing here several times over the last few years. Really should have got it together. Should know it was a possibility that it would be last chance.

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

Cockamamie proclamation I formed around the turn of the century: you could sum up the changes of 20th century music with two artists: Duke Ellington and Lee Scratch Perry. They get you from stride piano to techno with their genre explorations, and collaborations with Lonnie Johnson, Mingus, the Clash, George Clinton, Beasties, etc will Kevin Bacon you everywhere. Conny Plank is sort of the median. But most of all Ellington exemplifies the idea that with recording you could compose for the timbre and eccentricity of specific musicians, and would compose to the limitations and constraints of specific media, and Perry takes that through to the studio as an instrument and sampling and sequencing.

Citole Country (bendy), Monday, 30 August 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link

for the record I am reacting to Tommy McCook & Prophets - Death Trap (prod Yabby You i think?)

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

I'm not sure about these days but back in the day if you've got someone who produces a track and then someone else does a dub of it then the person who does the dub would be referred to as the engineer right?

So for example that track above the B-side says produced by V Jackson but on the label it says King Tubby's. So even with the dub Yabby You would be the producer and Tubbs would be the engineer if I'm understanding correctly

paolo, Saturday, 15 October 2022 08:29 (one year ago) link

Live Trap / Death Trap rules like fire. Are there many tracks with flute in the reggae canon? Tommy McCook absolutely kills it.

The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Concentration by Dennis Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Lg2p68yTw

You get more flute action on the dub. Lovely stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hXBOFk_G_Y

paolo, Saturday, 15 October 2022 08:33 (one year ago) link

Bubble Up by Wayne Jarrett (a Wackies production recently touched on in the Congos poll thread) is a great and thoroughly fluted-up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Xa9ErqeFM

Tim, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

for the record I am reacting to Tommy McCook & Prophets - Death Trap (prod Yabby You i think?)

rightly, wow

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 16 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

More flute, on-topic for the thread this time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HucNiALhqx0

Tim, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

(for the purposes for a broken-link future, that's Nice and Easy by Susan Cadogan, produced by Scratch)

Tim, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

That Susan Cadogan track is fire. And then youtube algorithm gave me the whole album and it's fantastic, never heard it

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 17 October 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

(I love it. Minor trivia point: two off the tracks on the LP are covers of songs from the classic Doris Duke LP "I'm a Loser", it seems lock and odd but inspired choice to find songs so suited to SC's rather ethereal vocal style on a full-throated gospelly southern soul vocal record)

Tim, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

Are there different versions of the album? I thought Island just changed the title and cover because they were worried about appearing racist?

Cow_Art, Monday, 17 October 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

Check out these tribute mixes! Over six hours of goodness, mostly focusing on Scratch's more obscure output

http://mikusmusik.blogspot.com/2015/08/rainford-rules-strictly-lee-perry.html

paolo, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

In the blurb it says 'In fact, considering the esteem in which he is now held he supposedly had relatively few big hits in JA, and to some extent it was UK audiences that really clicked with his sound and helped cement his legacy.' Is that correct?

paolo, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

Very cool find. Anyone else have an issue downloading Volume 1? It cuts off after a minute.

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

And yeah, from the little I've read, that does seem to be a fact about UK audiences, but that was true for a lot of Jamaican artists at that time, none more so than Bob Marley. See also: Mikey Dread

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

delighted to see The Battle for Armageddon reissued as i could never find a decent recording or streaming version of it (for a long time only had it on cassette taped by a friend at school). not a remaster afaict but it sounds good.

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/lee-scratch-perry-battle-of-armagideon-2cd-expanded-edition/

Fizzles, Monday, 15 May 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link

The I Am A Madman dub is quite a thing iirc, I also recall lots of mediocrity on that LP though. “Grooving” is probably my favourite.

Tim, Monday, 15 May 2023 18:37 (eleven months ago) link


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