Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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How many "common people" in the U.S. actually have heard "Common People"? Perhaps it was just an issue of exposure, but it definitely didn't resonate over here with anyone other than many of the people who claim empathy w/ "common people." Ironic?

Anyway I'm really weirded out by the high placement of that britney song, and I have trouble imagining that SO many people really honestly think its that good of a song, and that many of its votes aren't just a reaction to rockist dismissals of britney by ppl like rentboy.

Anyway I sure don't like it, and it's no where near as good as Toxic or I'm A Slave or, yes, Genie in a Bottle.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "Enjoy the Silence" can rightly be considered a lock. The Cure / DMode factor can't be ignored on polls like this, and if "Pictures of You" made it there's no reason that "Enjoy the Silence" shouldn't be.

I'm pretty sure at least one DP song will make it, whether it'll be "Da Funk" or "Around the World" is anyone's guess.

I don't see "California Love" as a lock at all. Maybe it'll be there but it's not definite.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I meant that it just came across like "I'm better than these people who like the tune but don't get it". Which is an OK opinion in itself in my book, I'm all for claiming superiority over people however unjustified (I do it all the time, and it is rarely justified!), but it shouldn't spoil your own opinion of the song. I don't think I'm explaining this very well, and I totally failed to get your meaning first time round. I understand now though. Sorry, I wasn't getting at you :)

(mega mega x post)

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Deej and I in total agreement about "Baby One More Time," huh? Go figure.

I guess it just gets a lot of credit for being the first.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

i think shimmy shimmy ya and nothing compares 2 u will make it. i am reconciling myself to the fact that come clean probably won't.

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe you're right about 'Chime', Bill. I just automatically think of it as one of those classic singles, and I'm not even a huge Orbital fan. I just thought the Disco Inferno vote would be too split for them to make it this high. I've no idea what 'Super Going' is.

Back to 'Common People' - even if I can hum along to the first bit, by the time it gets to the "Like a dog lying in a corner" bit, no - I don't want to be turned inside out again like that every time.

Funnily enough, I can listen to my favourite Pulp song of all ('The Fear') as many times as I like. Maybe it's because it doesn't pretend to be all bouncy. I dunno.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I never actually heard "Common People" as being sung by a common person. They met at Art School! It's a real "takes one to know one" song.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Bill, I'd say Cali Love's got a very very good chance.

Incidently to be clear - I'm not questioning that some people don't love that Britney song, just that the consensus would be so widespread among people that otherwise worship at the alter of Paranoid Android seems a little suspect. (And I find it hard to believe that Britney would rank so high w/out SOME overlap between radiohead-heads and pop-heads).

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost, thanks Alex and Shmool, I messed up).

Dr. Bill's predictions look good (he did a really good job with his 00's poll predictions too), but I don't know about Neutral Milk Hotel and two Disco Inferno songss ...

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I was hoping to be surprised by the results. These predictions are ruining it for me!!!

billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

"lazarus" has no chance at this point - and "chime" will make it for sure! It seems like the consensus 'most popular' Orbital track.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Baby, One More Time has almost identical chord structure to Exit Music.

Which isn't to say that I like it because it sounds like Radiohead, but because I'm a sucker for certain chord progressions, no matter their source.

xpost

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

By now, I don't think 'Energy Flash' is going to make it, either.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus, who is this 'Pulp' you all speak of?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

prediction (sorry billstevejm): are you that somebody in the top 10

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

(And I find it hard to believe that Britney would rank so high w/out SOME overlap between radiohead-heads and pop-heads).

I had "Paranoid Android" and "Where Are You Baby" in my top ten. Obviously I was one of the Britney voters. I don't do anti-rockism or irony in my taste in music.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Miccio - you're kind of right, but it's often where you're from, not where you're at.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

many of its votes aren't just a reaction to rockist dismissals of britney by ppl like rentboy.

whoah whoah whoah, did i just get called a "rockist"???
hahahaha so far from right. take another look at my top 10, k?thnx

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe "Regret" will appear at some point too.

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

No chance on "Shimmy Shimmy Ya," I'd say--thirty higher than any Wu song? Ridiculosuly unlikely. "Nothing Compares 2 U" has a fairly high chance. And yeah, no "Come Clean".

I hope against hope I'm wrong about "Chime". It is indeed "one of those classic singles" but I think its reputation has been eclipsed by the other two since. Once again, very hopeful that I'm wronga bout that.

DI vote splitting is a good point, which I think will kill the chances of "It's a Kid's World," "Love Stepping Out" and possibly "Summer's Last Sound," but I think that "The Last Dance" has a reputation strong enough to crossover to the lists of non DI obsessives (such as myself) as well, which I don't think the others have.

"Super Going" is my favorite Boredoms song and the only Boredoms song nominated. If VCN's ridiculously high placing on the 00s poll is any indication, I think their fanbase is strong enough to put "Super Going" into the 20s, but the anonymity of the specific song to non-obsessives (as you just proved) might hurt it too much. It's a toss-up.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

no "give it to you"

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Miccio - you're kind of right, but it's often where you're from, not where you're at.

well, yeah. it's clear his dad probably couldn't "stop at all," probably just write him a nice christmas check.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/political_wrap/july-dec02/911-7.jpg

". . . But I'm not sure the American public is in fact that well acquainted with Pulp."

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

'Nothing Compares 2 U' will surely be there.

I know next to nothing about Neutral Milk Hotel, but aren't they more of an albums band? Is this 'Two-Headed Boy' far and away their best song, like 'Super Going'?

'Lazarus'? No way.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm enjoying this bold prediction game.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I just don't see Cali Love as having that untouchable reputation of, say, "Regulate" or "Nuthin' But a G Thang". But it's possible, certainly.

No way on "Lazarus," Scott? Boo Radleys love is strong here, and I thought "Lazarus" was by some margin the consensus Boos song of choice. I could be wrong, but I think it at least has a chance.

I forgot "Regret" in my prediction, stupidly enough. It'll probably make it.

I might be wrong about the two D.I. songs, MiR, but if history has taught me one thing, it's to never underestimate the vote of the corny indie fuxx. And as such, "Two-Headed Boy" is a near lock (and yes, I think it's considered to be far and away their best song, and also was the only one nominated).

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

bill: I reckon that "no diggity" could still make it

scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i really think that nothing compares 2 u will be in the top thirty, as well as black steel by tricky. laid by james is another possibility not yet mentioned.

todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd say "Got Your Money" has a very good chance to show up still.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted for "Got Your Money," "No Diggity" and "Enjoy The Silence" so I'm hoping they'll make it.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

There is no way "California Love" and "No Diggity" are not in the top 30.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I might be wrong about the two D.I. songs, MiR, but if history has taught me one thing, it's to never underestimate the vote of the corny indie fuxx.
Corny indie fuxx in 90's poll = people who vote based on "moral values" in US elections

(has this been said elsewhere on ILX in the last week?)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The so-called "corny indie fuxx" silent majority vote usually manifests itself in sweeps for bigger names like Radiohead and Pavement, though. Not Disco Inferno.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually "Regulate" and "Nuthin But A G-thang" seem like locks as well.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

no they equal hitler

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

tracks that i voted for that haven't shown up yet, but seem to have a fairly decent possibility of doing so:

03 Boo Radleys - Lazarus
04 A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario
05 Underworld - Born Slippy NUXX
06 Deee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart
08 Stardust - Music Sounds Better With You
09 My Bloody Valentine - Soon
10 2Pac feat Dr. Dre – California Love
16 Daft Punk - Around the World
25 The Cardigans – Lovefool
27 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Got Your Money
30 Beck - Loser

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

04 A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario
?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't even heard half of Dr. Bill's predicted top 29 (wtf is Stardust?). I feel vaguely alienated from this poll.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Stardust is Daft Punk being even more pop. It's kind of annoying after a while. I'm still not entirely convinced it will make it.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

everybody feels alienated, because its a poll. There shouldn't be somebody going OMG THIS IS ME ALL OF IT. Saint Etienne never meant shit to me ("Music Sounds Better With You" is hell) but I'm not gonna cringe about it.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kind of annoying after a while.

nice effect on the vocal though

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i voted it #29 or something

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba, is it that you don't know that track, don't think very highly of it, or what?

I know along with Digable Planets, Black Sheep and De La Soul, Tribe's "Scenario" was fairly responsible for my first "love" with 90s hiphop.
i would guess i'm not alone there, but who knows?

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

(To clarify, I've heard OF some of those songs, even if I haven't actually heard them. But I'm American and my 1990s went like this: top 40 (1990-93), alt-rock (93-96), indie-rock (96-99). So blind spots ahoy.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

anthony, I think people are more wary of conformity and hopeful that ILM will show up w/ a top 100 list that shows diversity of taste. I certainly don't want it to reflect my list (although I made mine in a hurry the night it was due and regret a lot of my choices...how did I forget "Come on Ride the train"?!?!) but I DO want it to show a more interesting take on the music of the 90s than say, Spin magazine + a bunch of anglophiles.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

as i could have expected, this list has too many british people on it

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

xxpost MINDMELD

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

too bad because we're Spin magazine and a bunch of anglophiles

(x-post)

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I was pretty sure that both Dubstar "Stars" and Portishead "All Mine" were going to make it. Now I realize it's not gonna happen. Why is "All Mine" not that popular?

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link


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