Not mad this exists but it's more of a one off single, isn't it? Maybe slap it on a deluxe edition of whatever the new album is called.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
Works as a 180 from Yeezus.
― bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Friday, 2 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
that's what's so great about kanye. there really aren't that many other songwriters who present as comprehensive a portrait of themselves in their music as he does.
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 January 2015 06:00 (nine years ago) link
I don't think this makes a songwriter great...? Lots of'em present portraits of themselves. What made him for me a pleasure til 2010 was his attitude and how the beats abetted it. For electric piano tinkle and sighing, Bon Iver's around.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 January 2015 13:00 (nine years ago) link
still soty
― soyrev, Saturday, 3 January 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link
I mean, everyone has their own criteria. I like kanye for the compositional boldness of his music (this song is 't so bold though) but I also like his unflinching confessionalism. He is willing to be both embarrassingly hateful and embarrassingly corny and sentimental, and you never get a sense that he is disavowing any one of these moods as aspects of a persona or mask a la eminem. A kind of artlessness pulled off artfully
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 January 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
i don't see how he's unique in that
― lex pretend, Saturday, 3 January 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
There does seem to be a lack of Kanye filter as of late, pretty inchoate in his targets and anger and vitriol. This side of him really seemed to pop up after his mom died, so I wonder if she had a significant tempering effect on the guy. Listening to "The College Dropout" and then his most recent stuff, back to back, it sounds almost like someone took this nice guy who liked to smile and locked him in a room for a decade, forcing him to raise and then kill a puppy a week.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
it's almost like fame turns people into assholes. who knew
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Saturday, 3 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
there's absolutely no pre-fame Kanye interview or anecdote that gives any indication that he was less of an asshole before he was famous though haha
― un chill goon (some dude), Saturday, 3 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Keyboard outro is very McCartney II.
― timellison, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Idk if he is an asshole though. He seems like a sensitive guy who somehow got the (mistaken?) impression that it's virtuous to have no filter.
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
not virtuous so much as ~artistic
i don't think he's an asshole either, or at least any more of an asshole than any given famous pop star, which is why making it the focal point of his artistic persona feels uninteresting & reductive
― lex pretend, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
that's well put lex
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
In this clip, Kanye is being silly and smiling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylT16QB6Uig
With Anna Nicole Smith, the ur Kardashian.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link
lol "The New Workout Plan" probably prompted the closest thing to a backlash he got for any record before 808s
― un chill goon (some dude), Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
just the memory of that video is o_O
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
Ooh girl your breath is harsh!Cover your mouth up like you got SARS
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
silly and smiling
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 January 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link
I've always maintained that Big Sean's whole rap style is jacked from Farnsworth Bentley in that video.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 4 January 2015 07:09 (nine years ago) link
i like this song but the sparse keybs totally remind me of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hSK8GmGooM
― slam dunk, Sunday, 4 January 2015 09:15 (nine years ago) link
bentley's verse on that song is secretly kinda fire
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 January 2015 09:15 (nine years ago) link
is there a fonzworth bentley biography?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 January 2015 09:17 (nine years ago) link
Forrest Gump
― un chill goon (some dude), Sunday, 4 January 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link
this was pretty cool iirc
http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/13748/fonzworth_bentley_colours.html
― ANU (sisilafami), Sunday, 4 January 2015 12:33 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah COLOURS the song was the shit, great Pimp C verse and Weezy in that 2006-2007 stretch where he killed everything. Prob for the best that Ye stayed off that one.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
oh shit, tracee ellis ross is Fifi LeBeouff in that Workout Plan video; must've blocked that
― MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
Workout Plan to me always sounded like Kanye West trying to make an Eminem song.
― MarkoP, Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Or was that a pretty common criticism of the song at that time?
― MarkoP, Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
Now that you mention it the "it's been a week without me" chorus does sound a lot like Slim.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
holy cow that sounds like a (post-greatness) eminem song. actually sounds like D12 more than anything. awful
― soyrev, Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
College Dropout: the gift that keeps on giving
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 4 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
"My Band" >>>> "The New Workout Plan" (i like them both tho)
― un chill goon (some dude), Sunday, 4 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Anyway I wrote a thing. Not really about the song.
http://thequietus.com/articles/16966-kanye-west-paul-mccartney
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/OdPTlYV0WYY
― goole, Monday, 5 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
Anyway I wrote a thing. Not really about the song.http://thequietus.com/articles/16966-kanye-west-paul-mccartney― Ned Raggett
― Ned Raggett
In short:https://twitter.com/AesopDekker/status/552169207731724288
― Dinsdale, Monday, 5 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Who are the people making these claims? Was there a printed piece about it? Tweets?
― timellison, Monday, 5 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
Posts like this.
― bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Monday, 5 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
Shades of Grammy night "Who is Arcade Fire," except broadened to include every doofus on twitter, which probably skews young (and doofus), anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
No, I was asking who are the people making the claims that those who don't know who PM is are ignorant.
― timellison, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
lol Workout Plan was the song/video that sold me on Kanye tbh. was it really so bad and hated?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
I think the song is funny. It was my wife's fave from the album, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
Now that it's mentioned, it is really Eminem-esque, isn't it?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
maura had good words on the whole thing http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/television/2015/01/06/kanye-west-paul-mccartney-and-ever-present-past/uHT46Dh1lpDxfaYk4y7GUP/story.html
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
yeah that piece is v good
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
2015 and autotune still sounds like shit.
― Moka, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
^
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
http://oculos.blog.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/t-pain-carrera-safari.gif
― Evan, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
I was just under the impression that a lot of the Twitter comments were jokes because I have a hard time believing that there are people out there who listened to that track and thought "Man, that guy playing the piano in the background of this song is going to blow up huge. I'm going to go on Twitter to find out who he is, instead of Googling it". It just doesn't feel like the type of song where his contributions stand out enough to warrant a comment like that sincerely. And do people usually make comments about that for people that are actually unknown? I don't pay enough attention to social media to know if people thought Mr Hudson was going to blow up huge circa 808s and Heartbreaks.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
lol i'd wager that most of them were jokes. some were actual young person dumbness im sure, and well, who cares about that. the indignance stemmed from ppl either not getting the jokes or being offended that filthy rap loving millennials were daring to joke about his OBE twatness macca
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link