nah pretty sure Paul's just on keys on this
― un chill goon (some dude), Friday, 2 January 2015 01:36 (nine years ago) link
outro on this thing never fucking ends
― Simon H., Friday, 2 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link
just the idea that kanye has worked with paul mccartney makes me lol a bit. it gets better as it goes along. his vocals at the start seem quite bad. also, the 'and if you knew how proud' part comes in a bit suddenly. its just a rough demo right? it could be good but i hope this isnt on the finished album.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 2 January 2015 12:51 (nine years ago) link
it seems like with the whole thing about how the song 'captured a special moment' they probably just wanted to leave it at that spare original recording. could be a good album closer, interesting first thing to release but i suppose it operates as a pretty dramatic palate cleanser after Yeezus.
― un chill goon (some dude), Friday, 2 January 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link
it deserves hidden track status at best
― StillAdvance, Friday, 2 January 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link
rappers' songs about their kids are mostly terrible iirc
what about rappers' songs about grandmothers singing to gran kid?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 January 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
this is sweet i guess but i have no real desire to hear it again
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 January 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
...and about a minute too long
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
this is sweet i guess but i have no real desire to hear it again --lex pretend
this was basically my reaction
it seems like a decent album track, i'd never skip it but wouldn't actively seek it out
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 January 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
I could see it being a powerful album moment depending on sequencing, but yeah I am surprised by how minor it is.
The sentiment is so simple that it isn't served by the song length; it's a powerful two minute track drawn out to a lukewarm 5 min one
― Evan R, Friday, 2 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Not mad this exists but it's more of a one off single, isn't it? Maybe slap it on a deluxe edition of whatever the new album is called.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
Works as a 180 from Yeezus.
― bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Friday, 2 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
that's what's so great about kanye. there really aren't that many other songwriters who present as comprehensive a portrait of themselves in their music as he does.
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 January 2015 06:00 (nine years ago) link
I don't think this makes a songwriter great...? Lots of'em present portraits of themselves. What made him for me a pleasure til 2010 was his attitude and how the beats abetted it. For electric piano tinkle and sighing, Bon Iver's around.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 January 2015 13:00 (nine years ago) link
still soty
― soyrev, Saturday, 3 January 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link
I mean, everyone has their own criteria. I like kanye for the compositional boldness of his music (this song is 't so bold though) but I also like his unflinching confessionalism. He is willing to be both embarrassingly hateful and embarrassingly corny and sentimental, and you never get a sense that he is disavowing any one of these moods as aspects of a persona or mask a la eminem. A kind of artlessness pulled off artfully
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 January 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
i don't see how he's unique in that
― lex pretend, Saturday, 3 January 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
There does seem to be a lack of Kanye filter as of late, pretty inchoate in his targets and anger and vitriol. This side of him really seemed to pop up after his mom died, so I wonder if she had a significant tempering effect on the guy. Listening to "The College Dropout" and then his most recent stuff, back to back, it sounds almost like someone took this nice guy who liked to smile and locked him in a room for a decade, forcing him to raise and then kill a puppy a week.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
it's almost like fame turns people into assholes. who knew
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Saturday, 3 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
there's absolutely no pre-fame Kanye interview or anecdote that gives any indication that he was less of an asshole before he was famous though haha
― un chill goon (some dude), Saturday, 3 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Keyboard outro is very McCartney II.
― timellison, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Idk if he is an asshole though. He seems like a sensitive guy who somehow got the (mistaken?) impression that it's virtuous to have no filter.
― Treeship, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
not virtuous so much as ~artistic
i don't think he's an asshole either, or at least any more of an asshole than any given famous pop star, which is why making it the focal point of his artistic persona feels uninteresting & reductive
― lex pretend, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
that's well put lex
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Saturday, 3 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
In this clip, Kanye is being silly and smiling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylT16QB6Uig
With Anna Nicole Smith, the ur Kardashian.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link
lol "The New Workout Plan" probably prompted the closest thing to a backlash he got for any record before 808s
― un chill goon (some dude), Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
just the memory of that video is o_O
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
Ooh girl your breath is harsh!Cover your mouth up like you got SARS
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
silly and smiling
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 January 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link
I've always maintained that Big Sean's whole rap style is jacked from Farnsworth Bentley in that video.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 4 January 2015 07:09 (nine years ago) link
i like this song but the sparse keybs totally remind me of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hSK8GmGooM
― slam dunk, Sunday, 4 January 2015 09:15 (nine years ago) link
bentley's verse on that song is secretly kinda fire
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 January 2015 09:15 (nine years ago) link
is there a fonzworth bentley biography?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 January 2015 09:17 (nine years ago) link
Forrest Gump
― un chill goon (some dude), Sunday, 4 January 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link
this was pretty cool iirc
http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/13748/fonzworth_bentley_colours.html
― ANU (sisilafami), Sunday, 4 January 2015 12:33 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah COLOURS the song was the shit, great Pimp C verse and Weezy in that 2006-2007 stretch where he killed everything. Prob for the best that Ye stayed off that one.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
oh shit, tracee ellis ross is Fifi LeBeouff in that Workout Plan video; must've blocked that
― MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
Workout Plan to me always sounded like Kanye West trying to make an Eminem song.
― MarkoP, Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Or was that a pretty common criticism of the song at that time?
― MarkoP, Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
Now that you mention it the "it's been a week without me" chorus does sound a lot like Slim.
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
holy cow that sounds like a (post-greatness) eminem song. actually sounds like D12 more than anything. awful
― soyrev, Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
College Dropout: the gift that keeps on giving
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 4 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
"My Band" >>>> "The New Workout Plan" (i like them both tho)
― un chill goon (some dude), Sunday, 4 January 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Anyway I wrote a thing. Not really about the song.
http://thequietus.com/articles/16966-kanye-west-paul-mccartney
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 January 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/OdPTlYV0WYY
― goole, Monday, 5 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
Anyway I wrote a thing. Not really about the song.http://thequietus.com/articles/16966-kanye-west-paul-mccartney― Ned Raggett
― Ned Raggett
In short:https://twitter.com/AesopDekker/status/552169207731724288
― Dinsdale, Monday, 5 January 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Who are the people making these claims? Was there a printed piece about it? Tweets?
― timellison, Monday, 5 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
Posts like this.
― bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Monday, 5 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
Shades of Grammy night "Who is Arcade Fire," except broadened to include every doofus on twitter, which probably skews young (and doofus), anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link