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not from the music. i think i heard this on here so it could be nonsense.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

not from the music.

I read this as meaning you'd heard he was loaded from LISTENING to the music!

Does he have a song about being loaded? With breathy cut up vocals and an echoey Maurizio-indebted bassline?

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

"Luomo pays Ernestus $2million for amazing beat"

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

haha - did you get that Round 1-5 CD then?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

No! :(

I ordered it from Other Music but they took three weeks to tell me they didn't stock it. I'm hoping to find it when I'm in London and Berlin next month. It is absolutely TOP of my list.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i think i'm getting a new burner next week. hopefully i can CDR it for you.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes please! Though don't worry too much, I think this is something I probably want to buy a copy of!

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

(if I can find it)

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

oh hell. anyway, the new cover looks way more like Master of Reality than the Manics cover. though it's nowhere near as good as the original.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah that re-issue cover is very disappointing. i assumed Vlad was quite deeply into the aesthetics/ graphics of the whole thing. maybe it's an anti design move? the cover reminds me of Omni trio "The Deepest Cut Volume 1" more than anything else.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Luomo!

admrl, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

so does any other Luomo come close to Vocalcity? I've heard a few tracks but nothing really seems as good.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

no.

jed_, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

my friend sent me a luomo track called "mirrorball" which is real nice, i don't know if its on an album i don't have or what

the only other album by him i like as much as vocalcity is vladislav delay - the four quarters which is not really dance music of course

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i still like present lover more than vocalcity

deej, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I got a mint copy of Vocalcity for £6 second hand a month ago!

I MUCH prefer it to Present Lover, but it has so much bass the needle literally jumps out of the groove on my nice turntable. Have to put the tracking force to about 3 to get it to play. Sounds great, though.

(I don't think that's why it was only 6 pounds, as it plays fine on cheap direct drive turntable)

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, Vocalcity what a masterpiece of sound design, texture, and deep house grooving. Everything else, what a dissapointment :( I sold my copy of the Present Lover after, well, not too long, at the time I deemed it something to the effect of fashion show runway house. It hurts me to say this to, what I've heard of his even later stuff is well, I don't want to be too harsh on him. Nevertheless, all is beyond forgotten because his stuff as Uuisitalo is better than ever, some reallllllly good tracks, a return to dance-music form, and how.

mehlt, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

http://www.huumerecordings.com/accidents

coming out soon:

LUOMO - CONVIVIAL !!!

featuring guest appearances from Cassy, Jake Shears, Robert Owens, Apparat, etc

Jake Shears!

jaymc, Sunday, 10 August 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"Convivial" is not a title that fills me me with any great hope or aniticipation, I must say.

Tim F, Sunday, 10 August 2008 07:45 (fifteen years ago) link

robert owens, tho

deej, Sunday, 10 August 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

true that.

Tim F, Sunday, 10 August 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

cassy and apparat!!!

jake shears :/

lex pretend, Sunday, 10 August 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

paper tigers :------(

elan, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I won't expect much from this in order not to get heart broke again

admrl, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I still listen to Paper Tigers.

jaymc, Monday, 11 August 2008 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, my "Jake Shears!" comment was surprise, not excitement. If anything, he makes me skeptical.

jaymc, Monday, 11 August 2008 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/delay_vladislav/288cover.jpg

haitch, Monday, 11 August 2008 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

when vlad delay finally played in NYC, it was because he was also sneaking into the scissor sisters' studio to finish up the album.

beta blog, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

that wire thing had really cool photos of his studio

I know, right?, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm very confident about this (I don't know if I should be). Although I must say I've taken University courses which require less work than following his recent output.

xposts. it's a pity that the first time I see someone else use that Richard Hamilton pun and not replace 'homes' with 'house'. It's just much more clever that way!

mehlt, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

What makes today's Techno so different, so appealing, so acceptable to 20something yupsters in graphic design jobs who drive VWs

sous les paves, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Let me elaborate on the first point though. I think a prime reason I thought the present lover was so bunk was that largely because the vocals were just. kind of haphazardly thrown in there. I think with Cassy and Robert Owens (which got a whoa out of me), I'm confident he's going to not only have fancy vocalists (who will ideally write better lyrics than the stuff in TPL and what have you), but they're the type where the sound design is crafted around the vocals (in other works, please! no more of those irritating, kind of drunk-sounding synths!)

mehlt, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i love the vocals in TPL! :/

cutty, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

me too

admrl, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

me three

deej, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

apart from that cartman track

jed_, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

what about that moment in body speaking where she gets it in the butt?

elan, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Between the last two posts I'm really starting to thing that my dislike of the present lover isn't just me.

mehlt, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

seriously, if the dude says he doesn't like vocalcity and meant for it to come out totally different, then i don't trust him to make music i like now that he's refined his technique.

elan, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

he doesn't like vocalcity? in that case i agree with you, elan. TPL isn't all that great. i love "So You" so much though.

jed_, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

The Present Lover is probably my favourite record of all time!

admrl, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

What's strange to me is that Vocalcity and The Present Lover are so different and yet equal in my affections, whereas The Present Lover and Paper Tigers are so similar and yet I adore one and never listen to the other.

Or maybe it's not so strange: if Paper Tigers had ventured further afield perhaps its glaring inferiority vis a vis The Present Lover would be less of an issue. But it's hard to understand how/why Luomo dropped the ball.

Tim F, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i would easily take TPL over vocalcity. i like the quirky murky meandering imprecision of vc but easily choose rhythmically taught cohesion over it every time

deej, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

See that's the thing, I don't hear it as rhythmically taught cohesion, I hear it as essentially throwing away what made VC so damn interesting, instead, making it kind of simple, unadventurous, and well, boring (NB Luomo was one of the first dance acts I ever got into, me being an IDM-head of sorts before. And while Tessio was a grand realization of sorts, it didn't even really catch up to me until much more recently). I mean, he does vocal house well enough (although I seemed to remember him taking a big turn for the worse in making his synths a lot more I guess, wonky and off-kilter, and later on a bit shrill, I think. Nevertheless, I would still prefer Vocalcity sans the rhythmic all-over-the placeness over TPL).

mehlt, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I should mention, though. Not long ago I bought the Black-Dice - Smiling Off Ep (2006) and the Luomo remix on it is actually pretty good.

mehlt, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

he doesn't like vocalcity? in that case i agree with you, elan. TPL isn't all that great. i love "So You" so much though.

-- jed_, Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

i can't remember the source, and i don't want to dig right now, but i remember reading an interview where he said that when he made vocalcity, he didn't really know what he was doing as far as house-making (having only done dub experiments as vladislav delay), and that the present lover was what he really wanted to make. i was shocked to read that. the present lover is very good music to me, but vocalcity is exceptional. i understand how tpl could be considered a step up based on certain criteria, but i disagree.

elan, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yes! xp that remix is amazing. check also his remix of rhythm & sound "truly" for a similar bassy sound.

elan, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I got that one on vinyl too. Gorgeous!

Y'know he makes for quite a remixer, which I guess fits into my 'his vocalists and choice of synths suck" hypothesis

mehlt, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

http://phlow.net/mag/interview_portrait/luomo_der_straighte_vladislav_delay.php

Phlow: Was it a big pressure on you that so many people adored and praised "Vocalcity"?

Vladislav Delay: It was more a personal pressure. Although there was this fact that vocalcity was treated as something I didn´t stand behind, ie. I wasn´t happy with the album while people listening it were. But in the end it was doing something I was happy with, otherwise it wouldn´t make sense to do this.

Phlow: Why didn't you stand behind "vocalcity"? Could you explain yourself a little bit more?

Vladislav Delay: I did vocalcity in a rush and mainly in a state I can´t remember anymore. In the end when I saw the cd and heard it I didn´t like it, it wasn´t what I had in mind to create. New one sounds a bit like I wanted vocalcity to sound.

elan, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link


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