The Sea and Cake: COD/SD etc. etc.

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What time signature is the song "The Biz" in?

Help me out, Jaymc or Nitsuh or somebody. Still wondering about this.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's 15/8.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(Alternating measures of 7 and 8 beats.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

No wonder I hurt myself trying to tap along to it.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

showboat angel! I say it again. So great!

akm, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

Revive!

I went to see the Sea and Cake at Cargo last night. It was great, really good, and the sound was fantastic. I wondered if the nuances of the records would come across live, but they did.

Anyway, I only have Oui (I went with a friend who is a big fan), so would anyone like to revisit the s/d part, and talk about the new album?

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the new album a lot. They sound maybe a bit looser than they have in the past? But I think they sort of defy deep analysis. Nothing to dig in to.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the new one. I'm not familiar with their back-catalogue, save that Bedroom-album, which I found so-so. But this one's so lush, full of joy-de-vivre, if I may say so. The Malipop-song "Exact to me" is stunning and my favourite of the album. Would love to see them live.

willem, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, there was one at the gig when I suddenly thought African pop! That must be "Exact to me" - that was a highlight along with a two-chord thing with the most amazing drumming that they played just before it - this fast disco hi-hat, snare, bassdrum pattern and then these incredible fills everywhere. Any idea what that one would have been?

I should just get the album.

The bass and drums really were brilliant - the songs, airy and light and pleasing as they are, sometimes just feel like a setting for the rhythm section, rather than the other way round.

They were entertainingly uncharismatic as well. Four people desperately looking anywhere apart from the audience. The bass player, who is now HUGE, looking like he was actually asleep - completely motionless apart from his fingers. It was cool.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw, Eric Claridge. My brother and I used to imagine that, while the rest of the band was all playing in their side/solo projects, Eric Claridge was just sitting on his couch, glumly practicing bass.

jaymc, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I was at that gig, too, Jamie.

'Uncharismatic' doesn't begin to describe them. At one stage, Archer asked Sam if he was enjoying himself. Sam mumbled something I couldn't make out but he didn't seem overly impressed with the idea of being on the stage.

there are indeed a couple of tracks on Everybody that have a bit of Afro hi-life guitar. I'm afraid I'm terrible at the names of tracks - most of my music listening takes place in my car!

The drummer was extraordinary wasn't he? Was that John McEntire? (sorry I'm not well up on this genre of music) The rhythm section is definitely a major joy in their music.

Everybody is much lighter than previous work, but it still complex and strange in parts. I found in the gig that because it is all so evenly paced and because so little was happening on stage I had to think about rhythms and voice onset and time signatures and all that kind of grown-up stuff!

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw, Eric Claridge. My brother and I used to imagine that, while the rest of the band was all playing in their side/solo projects, Eric Claridge was just sitting on his couch, glumly practicing bass.

-- jaymc, Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

that's lame and condescending. eric's a really fantastic painter.

new record is really good, frankly i didn't think it would be. they were great live a couple weeks ago in new york, too.

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, I notice from Eric Claridge's site, that there's a painting of a squirrel holding a Swiss army knife. Charmingly, the Sea and Cake use that image on their merchandise.

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Lighten up stencil, jaymc and his brother were clearly joking.

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

not in the email i've got dated july 7, 2003

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

zung

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I see that both Tortoise and the Sea and Cake are on tour right now; which band is McEntire playing with? Anybody know?

kwhitehead, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

the sea and cake

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know about Claridge's painting career, dude.

jaymc, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

when did you 'discover' it?

okay, okay, i'll stop

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

please

strongohulkington, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=103254
new album called Car Alarm to be released 2008-10-21

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

first album still my favorite by them, I don't think they'll ever top it.

akm, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know what their best album is but I know that everyone had some really good songs. Glass EP, for instance, was a great direction for The Sea and Cake but then they had to release Everybody next - I didnt really care for that album. But as far as mixtapes go, they have more than enough great material spanning their entire career. Archer Prewitt could easily have a greatest hits cd also even though he has only released 5 albums.

The Sea and Cake's lyrics have always been nice, abstract pleasantries that are unlike any other bands lyrics. There is a timeless quality to the lyrics since for the most part they don't make any sense and you can envision the story differently every time.

And Sam Prekop's voice is easy on the ears but always fresh and crispy nonetheless.

So yeah The Sea and Cake has always been in my top 10 band list.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 07:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Still play & enjoy Everybody a lot. Should check out the debut I guess. Looking very much forward to Car Alarm. Although that blurb on the TJ site is a bit too much/elaborate I like the idea of them going straight into the studio after touring the last album and record the next in 3 months time.

willem, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link

1) Nassau
2) The Fawn
3) The Biz

Arghn, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Car Alarm sounds the way I want it to so far :)))

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

did not know about this

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

As good as two gentlemen?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

does louis jagger like these guys? they seem like his kinda thing, I'm kinda surprised that he hasn't contributed to this thread

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Well I got 5 tracks out of 12 and Two Gentlemen isn't the one I listen to. I play random tracks so I wouldn't know. I just know this is better than Everybody. But I love the band nonetheless... it doesn't have poppy like singing as does "we come by when you say that, we come by, we come by when you say that, we come by" or Afternoon Speaker or Station In The Valley. It has the heavier guitars from everybody but they sound more like the traditional sea and cake sound "beachy"... and the singing sounds great even though not poppy so far (I've heard 5 tracks).

They are definitely my thing. I give the a big shiny star. Fuck Louis Jagger or whoever he is.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd say if you like Two Gentlemen and havent tried Glass ep, go for it.
But this doesn't sound like those so much so far.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I like glass fine, but it doesn't have Early Chicago and a brilliant cover.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll give those a go, I'll be jogging today with my ipod, might as well

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=50505
Here's just a small taste of the more technoish sound of one short track.
The other songs aren't like this though.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

everytime this thread pops up I'm compelled to say: SHOWBOAT ANGEL

akm, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Always hated this guy's insufferable vox.

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I bet you like crappy music in general :[ Mr. Steve Hater

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Where are you hearing this? I e-mailed Brent DiCrescenzo a few weeks ago after he reviewed "Car Alarm" (the song) in Time Out Chicago to see where I could find it. No dice.

jaymc, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Soulseek, as a temporary mediator before I decide whether to purchase the album. Still stuck with only 5 songs though.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone hear this yet?

CaptainLorax, Monday, 11 August 2008 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

It's funny how there are a whole bunch of bands I liked in college that have since put out one or more boring albums that have caused me to lose interest - these guys, Silver Jews, Bonnie Prince Billy, Tortoise, etc. Actually maybe that's not funny at all but in fact totally predictable.

Hurting 2, Monday, 11 August 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

For me Tortoise lost me with their bonnie prince billy album, but I wont stop perusing them or the sea and cake who lost me with Everybody. They both have it in them for some great song if not albums.

CaptainLorax, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Glass and One Bedroom had some great songs as did Tortoise's It's All Around You and A Lazarus Taxon...

I meant Tortoise's boring collaboration with Will Oldham ^^^ one thread up.

I'm listening to the new sea and cake right now, they almost always have a great vibe; track 6, weekends, is kicking my ass.

CaptainLorax, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

new video up at Pitchfork. Mark gives it a nice description, but I didn't like the electronics. And I always want them to use more electronics.

mizzell, Friday, 12 September 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been playing this album a lot. At first I liked the song in the video you mentioned. Now the electronics are agreeably more annoying than cool.

But the song that comes after it New Schools, is my fav on the album.
The first song Aerial is pretty good as well

CaptainLorax, Friday, 12 September 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably because New Schools is the only one with a guitar solo?

Reminds me of the new Wilco album in that I like Impossible Germany for the guitar solo and then there is some nice stuff on there but that's pretty much it. At least Car Alarm has more of a beachy feel of their earlier albums.

CaptainLorax, Friday, 12 September 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to a bunch of their albums today and Nassau is so, so great. But pretty different from the rest. That and the Fawn are my top two.

mizzell, Friday, 12 September 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Just saw a Citi commercial while watching Heroes that uses "Jacking The Ball." Weird. I wonder if they're gettin paid. Makes me wanna listen to that first album again for the first time in years.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 6 March 2009 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link


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