no wait, that's not it lol
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
all pink guitars look alike eh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/3912158/Jesse+Johnson+J+Johnson+Pink+Guitar.jpg
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
that is a G&L
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
my Publix is fond of a not bad by chart DOA duet with Sly Stone from '86 called "Crazay."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2012/09/the-best-song-of-2012-dangelos-the-charade.html
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link
BTW - on the vinyl pressing, I asked on Twitter and apparantly it's a double LP? (which would make sense given the running time)
Ben Kane @kanevibrations 45m45 minutes ago@MattHelgeson it's a double LP and yes it was pressed from the hi def digital master which came off our tapes. It'll sound great!
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
my secret shame about this album is that Charade is my least favorite
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
it's not one that leaps out at me - wfmu blog correctly that it leans a lot on late-period Prince "rock" singles
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
xp I think they originally said double. But then the website says only "Side A" and "Side B", which I guess really means "Disc 1" and "Disc 2".
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
yeah that's why i was confused...but 58 minutes would really be pushing, I'm not even sure if that would physically be possible
from United Pressing's site:
12" Records
12" records are both the standard LP size and the standard for club DJ's. 12" Records can be cut at 45RPM or 33 1/3 RPM. When cut at 33 1/3 you can hold approximately 18:00 minutes per side. When cut at 45 you can hold approximately 12:00 minutes per side. These numbers are not set in stone they are just a suggested max as the quality can suffer at times if you go much over that.
so if 18 is reasonable max, let's say you totally pushed it to even 25 minutes per side, you'd still be 8 minutes short, and I'm not sure you can push 7 minutes over 18 per side anyway
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
can't be done
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
hey wait aren't there a bunch of miles records with crazy amounts of music smashed into one side? he loved him madly and calypso frelimo are both over 30 minutes
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
maybe it took almost 15 years to come out because they had to develop the technology to press it on a single slab of vinyl
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
hoffman boards say manilow did it
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-longest-major-label-music-lp-ever-barry-manilow-20-greatest-hits-pics-inside.186171/
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
but either way if the engineer says its 2 LPs I'll trust him
Track listing for Get Up With It
All compositions by Miles Davis.
Side one
"He Loved Him Madly" (1974) –32:05
Side two
"Maiysha" (1974) –14:49 "Honky Tonk" (1970) –5:54 "Rated X" (1972) –6:49
Side three
"Calypso Frelimo" (1973) –32:10
Side four
"Red China Blues" (1972) –4:10 "Mtume" (1974) –15:12 "Billy Preston" (1972) –12:35
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
it's definitely possible to press it as a single LP, but 2xLP would be much, much better
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Albums used to regularly contain 20-25 minutes of music per side in the late 70s and 80s. That said, the copy of Metallica's ...And Justice For All I bought in 1988 had this sticker on the front:
http://cdn.discogs.com/hYvSYje9qLSyzyA2sz4asSHSgFQ=/fit-in/600x304/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/R-521407-1329666487.jpeg.jpg
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
yeah those grooves need to be deep for this
― cheeseburger, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand that metallica record still sounds like shit
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
30 minutes on a side is gonna sound like garbage, is the thing
especially for music this dense
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vinylrecorder.com/time.html
― cheeseburger, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
(high volume, deep groove, much bass) : 12": 4 minutes this is the order of the day here people
― cheeseburger, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, December 17, 2014 3:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh yea i'm not saying it's optimal. just that it is possible and there are many examples of major releases doing this
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
who can forget the deep bass-heavy groove on that metallica record
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
groovy lars
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
mixing that record out of spite is still one of the great stupid rock n' roll moves of all time
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
can't believe q-tip didn't have a hand in the production of sugah daddy, that beat has him all over it
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
if the vinyl is actually mastered from a HD digital mix via the original audio tapes it might be one of the very few times buying the vinyl edition of a contemporary album will actually be worthwhile. but chances are you aren't going to hear anything you don't hear on the CDs, except for some degree of needle static and added reverberations of course (the amount depending on your system).
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
that And Justice For All sticker is great. odd that metallica of all folks (or their record company I guess) would be audiophiles.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/EgL338s.png
― cheeseburger, Thursday, 18 December 2014 09:45 (nine years ago) link
finn26 not OTM
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link
"except for some degree of needle static"
lucky for everyone who has the cd (like me - and this album sounds so much better on cd than mp3), they put some static at the side of what would be 'side 2' already (i hate that actually, its a bit corny, and a touch TOO retro-fetishy for me).
not to keep banging on about it, but this album REALLY needs to start with 1000 deaths. it works so much better that way. no idea why it isnt the starter.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link
Absolutely. It sets up the whole record.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:14 (nine years ago) link
secretly hoping dangelo realises the error of his ways for the vinyl pressing.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link
as i said, until yesterday that was how the album began for me, and it really, really works like that
― Nixon head is essential. (stevie), Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:30 (nine years ago) link
Ben Kane @kanevibrations · 1h 1 hour agoSugah: James Gadson (one of the funkiest humans) is playing the KICK and tapping his LAP on this song. Funky as hell even on the lap.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
Idg why people are so down on "Ain't That Easy".
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
Wow xp
I played this for my guitar teacher yesterday and he all but welled up with awe at the degree of musicianship and groove. I think his point of comparison was the way some of the jazz genius giants would throw in weird versions of chords and phrases just to throw people off, this album does with rhythm. He also noted of little there seemed to be of D'Angelo's single voice, vs. the wall of warbling.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
The guitar work on Really Love (I think that's it) is particularly special.
― dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
Wonder where Saadiq was in the 15 years hence? So disappointing they didn't collab on this
You should BE HERE Raphael!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJY2NSSU1g
― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
recording his own albums
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
I kind of feel like Raphael Saadiq is a super-talented guy who is never quite brilliant in the way D'Angelo is. He always paints within the lines, if that makes sense.
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
Raph was supposed to producing this album, they'd been working over a year together on it at one point.
http://i.imgur.com/SMjvX7N.png
― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
if they whittled black messiah tracklist down from something like 50 songs it stands to reason that saadiq's collabs just didn't make the cut
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
One of the "challenges" of this corner of neo-soul is that it often sits in a sweet spot between song and groove in a manner that makes it harder to grapple with than if it drifted more firmly into either territory.
I think this post nails why I struggle with D'Angelo (and a lot of neo-soul in general) but have no problem with either older soul or more modern R&B. There's lots of individual elements I like about this album but I'm finding it difficult to get a foothold in it emotionally.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
the saadiq tracks couldn't be any worse than "ain't that easy" and "1000 deaths"
― JB, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
u mad
― christmas with the canks (some dude), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link