ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

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that amy in quebec track is so close to wine&roses/red pony/approaching of the disco void its almost a cover

ogmor, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:07 (four years ago) Permalink

was watching some fahey live on youtube last's an 81 gig, with apparently Michael Hedges opening (sorry folks no records available didn't get pressed in time)...Fahey is being really smarmy in his banter, the set itself verges from awkward to hypnotic, found his flopping down combover hair kind of distracting

this is a 2000 set, he does a lot of dicking around/joking around at the beginning, but about the 7:40 mark on he gets going and it's actually pretty cool

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:11 (four years ago) Permalink

We going the "https:..." route to skip embeds? Not that I don't love opening this thread to shots of Fahey at his weirdest ....

grandavis, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:22 (four years ago) Permalink

oops sorry

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:23 (four years ago) Permalink

A leaner/meaner thread for 2015 I guess. I'll miss the Fahey gut though.

grandavis, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Transmissions Fest footage is new to me, awesome. I wish more people openly talked about his later work without full on the talk of "well, I don't know about this, but look at what he used to do." The only thing that I can't fully grasp is the Hitomi material, some of it is played in that Transmissions Fest video. Kinda feel like it goes down easier when you get to watch him play like that, on record is another thing. There is another noodley electric gig on youtube that actually does have a lot of syncopation; and getting to hear old styles on an electric is pretty nice. There aren't many artists that went so far in the other direction, let alone an instance where you get to watch past material with a new technique. Defiantly would rather have had Fahey do all that then not. I dig The Mill Pond lots. It's not too different than some of the stuff that is out there today. Womblife gets so zonked in parts you can't help but grin.

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:03 (four years ago) Permalink

Loving this Glenn Jones tune, "The Teething Necklace (For John Fahey)"

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:05 (four years ago) Permalink

Couple things I put together,

John Fahey's Adelphi Sessions, the Dance of Death outtakes. Uploaded as MP3's, posted on my blog:

Scanned my copy of the mail order catalog from Fonotone Records, interesting curio. Includes the numerous early Fahey comps Joe Bussard curated for Fonotone.

I finally put together some new lapstyle material and wanted to share it here. "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" sits as is, in a sorta demo state. I didn't want to forget all the new ideas I've been having, yet also told myself I wouldn't record again until I bought a nice microphone. Of course, I got impatient, so here we are. Before they find a home somewhere, I do want to properly record them.

Link for the MP3's are posted here,

Neal Cassady, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Look forward to checking this stuff out

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 03:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Cool, thanks Neal! Actually already listened to your "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks (Mr. Avant Ghetto threw them up on twitter yesterday), really enjoyed them. First track sucked me right in, so yeah make a recording you are happy with and I am on board!

grandavis, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:57 (four years ago) Permalink

neal - or others - what microphones/mic pres do you guys use? this coming year i need to get serious about recording an album

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:11 (four years ago) Permalink

like your new stuff neal

the only Tashi Dorji song on Spotify is a cool little curio, electronic remix featuring his guitar of a song by some psychey dude name Al Lover

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Thanks dudes, I have always just been using a portable digital Tascam recorder from B&H Photo that I bought a while back. It fits in your pocket so I've used it while out and walking around, but it's not a good choice for recording guitar at this point, I loved it at first bc of how much of an improvement it was over using the internal MacBook mic. I sold my two amps (+all other musical electronics) years ago during collage, which I regret now. As I would like to record traditionally with a mic and amp set up. Either using the sound hole or install a pick up. How about USB mics? Been talked about here before I think. Decent clarity from the models available now?

Neal Cassady, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:34 (four years ago) Permalink

I think the solution is to just meet someone in town with a set up :) - that way I can avoid all of this.

Neal Cassady, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:36 (four years ago) Permalink

I've posted things upthread recorded with the Blue Yeti (120 new but you can def find a ton of these used on ebay, got mine for 80 on craigslist)

you can hear the stuff i've done, which is minimally processed, a bit EQd and maybe compressed slighty with some audicity plugin reverb on it, but overall I'd say USB mics have come a long way

of course, I'm just plotting about how I want to get a USB DAC/Mic pre unit and a better XLR mic so I suppose one is always unsatisfied.

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:38 (four years ago) Permalink

gonna check out yr new thing neal! i've dug the rag lore things i've heard so far.
just got hipped to this thing via soft abuse's twitter -- maybe it was mentioned on the old thread? - kind of low-key/dreamy/fieldrecording-y/acoustic action. i like it!

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Neal there is also a USB model of the Blue Spark which is supposed to be great on acoustics

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 December 2014 00:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Nice yeah, I remember reading a while back about you UMS using the Blue Yeti for your material. If you search a phrase like 'USB mic acoustic guitar' on youtube the Blue Yeti seems to comes up the most, also something called the Snowball. Though, I think based on the sound samples the Yeti comes out on top. I'll look into that Blue Spark too.

No other time than now to get a project down. Should defiantly put together something. Stick it on a tape and send it to people, flinging around links is nerve racking sometimes though.

I used to work at the main public library of Virginia and was hired at the perfect moment where they were getting rid of all the old analog stereo equipment and vinyl records. It was a dream to hoard of that kind of stuff. I got a working reel to reel, but haven't yet grabbed any tape to use it. Would love to have it up and running.

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:31 (four years ago) Permalink

Reel to reel would sound great

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Grandavis did you end up heading to the hometown Daniel Bachman gig in Fredericksburg? A full video of it was posted a few days ago - includes some of the new material that should be coming up on the Three Lobed Record.

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 18 December 2014 04:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Nah, I had to skip it as it was early in the day and I had too much to do. Watched the video already though! Wanna reiterate that I really like the new tunes that'll be on the next record. Bachman is chugging along into some sweet territory. The lap stuff is a real joy live too.

grandavis, Thursday, 18 December 2014 13:03 (four years ago) Permalink

listening to that new Bachman right now, loving it, getting some sweet "Paris, Texas" vibes off of "Coming Home"

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:07 (four years ago) Permalink

btw global is gonna be opening for bachman in mpls in the new year!

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 02:59 (four years ago) Permalink

Very good shows happening in mpls these days, would love to catch that Metzger one (w/ Global and UMS) as well. Have fun with that.

grandavis, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Pretty nice playlist here from John Mulvey (his Uncut series). Lots of stuff hit up in this thread, but throwing more kudos towards Neal's Rag Lore "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks. Cool to see folks from here getting out there and bringing it. Hope you get that record made this year UMS!

grandavis, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:28 (four years ago) Permalink

my goal is to upgrade to a small basement studio, been scoping out gear and i think i get get a good setup going for less than $500

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 15:47 (four years ago) Permalink

so easy to get obsessed w/researching gear/recording stuff but you also gotta remember that you won't ever make anything 1/2 as a good as a blind blake record that was recorded at less fidelity than the microphone on your iphone

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 15:48 (four years ago) Permalink

i use my phone to record and i think it sounds pretty good!

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:21 (four years ago) Permalink

for a basement recording with a device not built intentionally to record music

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:22 (four years ago) Permalink

i am usually amazed by how good those iphone recordings come out. i mean, obviously not pro quality or anything... but good!

tylerw, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:31 (four years ago) Permalink

fwiw I once again voice my preference for separate threads for making this music / listening to this music. I'd frequent both, but these threads get p unwieldy as it is without microphone reviews and stuff.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:58 (four years ago) Permalink

merry christmas guys

"hello there, uh John Fahey here.."

Neal Cassady, Friday, 26 December 2014 04:04 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought "https" was supposed to block video embeds?

Oh well :/ still wishing well to everyone here anyway!

Neal Cassady, Friday, 26 December 2014 04:07 (four years ago) Permalink

Alright, ventured into test threads.

Both "http" and "https" will embed viewable youtubes for me in Safari and Chrome.
If I use "www" as well as no URL prefix at all, the video won't embed.

Though, if I head back to the old thread, "https" links are still the way they were: not embedded.
That's all I've got, maybe this isn't the case for everyone else, but I'll leave out all http(s) going forward.

Neal Cassady, Friday, 26 December 2014 05:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Always nice to spin the New Possibility during Xmas

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 December 2014 12:15 (four years ago) Permalink

this track here sounding awesome. wish records from these folks weren't so expensive to get shipped to the states... they're all so great!!

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 27 December 2014 18:26 (four years ago) Permalink

hey my wife came across this LP bc she's a massive dorothy parker fan and we mail-ordered it, it's music set to lyrics taken from parker's poetry. i think it would appeal to a lot of you guys.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:00 (four years ago) Permalink

heh, i just sold that to somebody. i liked it, but found i wasn't returning to it very often.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:07 (four years ago) Permalink

was listening to "the new possibility" last night and realized i don't really like it all that much. it seems very staid and unexciting compared to other fahey albums of the era. not the same heady mix of influences except in a few isolated passages. how to fahey fans rate those xmas albums anyway?

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:09 (four years ago) Permalink

i think it sounds like a good idea on paper but it's a bit flat overall. especially as he kept on doing more and more of them. i think definitely an attempt to get some crossover money from the windham hill/leo kottke 'hot tub music' crowd.

don't really need to listen to it when i've got the Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:32 (four years ago) Permalink

the crossover money must have worked for him, pretty sure every single fahey section in used record stores around town is stocked with multiple copies of those. i'm always hopeful when i start to rifle through and then i see a dozen xmas lps and one battered to shit copy of 'after the ball'...

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:35 (four years ago) Permalink

The second Fahey christmas album is way better than the first because it sounds less like a christmas album and more like a proper Fahey album.

austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:37 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, i do like that one better... ironically (?) that one is harder to find, i think it's OOP.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Speaking as a fan of Fahey and a fan of Christmas music, I don't listen to them much either - they sound too dry, austere to bring me much joy.

ticket to rmde (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:53 (four years ago) Permalink

i th ink of them as being more conventionally pretty but less engaging than other fahey albums.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:56 (four years ago) Permalink

it's also sort of jarring to hear a lot of fahey's 'tricks' and picking techniques applied to something so straightforward as a christmas song you've heard a million times

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 01:56 (four years ago) Permalink

"christ's saints of god fantasy" is a legit great piece, I like the slightly ridiculous russian christmas overture on the second album a lot too. all the best fahey duets are on old fashioned love imo but the ruskin ones aren't bad. I like some of the standards esp silent night on slide guitar, that's so gorgeous. the last piece on the second album is a bizarre mix of fahey in brooding bola sete mode and festive cheer that's my kind of christmas tune

ogmor, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:21 (four years ago) Permalink

^Agreed about "Christ's Saints of God Fantasy". From what I can recall, there were more than a couple moments that I do dig on the New Possibility. Maybe it's that all those moments came from this tune + "Silent Night".

The New Possibility (1968)
Christmas With John Fahey Volume II (1975)
Christmas Guitar - Volume One (1982)
Popular Songs of Christmas & New Years - with Terry Robb (1983)

I've always confusingly stared at inclusion of "Volume One" on the 1980 release, maybe it's because Varrick envisioned an entire series of "Christmas Guitar" on their label? Come to think of it, I've never listened to the 1983 release with Terry Robb. Not exactly a Christmas album, but "Yes, Jesus Loves Me - Guitar Hymns" (1980), could be included in this vein as well, and I'd say it's a pretty good one. Fahey is probably the only Christian music I've loved this much, hah! Imagine if his only recorded output was the Christmas albums and albums of hymns. What would our contemporary look like?

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:51 (four years ago) Permalink

**I've always confusingly stared at inclusion of "Volume One" on the 1982 release

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:52 (four years ago) Permalink

IIRC the playing can get a little sloppy (or "goopy" IMO) on yes, jesus loves me, but it's still somehow one of the better fahey albums, just because he draws a lot of inspiration from those old hymns.

i wonder why the 2nd christmas LP hasn't been properly reissued/remastered.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 03:13 (four years ago) Permalink

and hey y'all thanks for digging what you heard up there, it's getting a vinyl treatment, we are inking stuff out

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 26 January 2019 04:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i did try to make it kosmic

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 26 January 2019 04:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I really like the instrumental music on what I've listened to from the Sarah Louise. Certainly not what I was expecting but digitally processed solo electric guitar improv is way up my alley. I got some weird Mike Oldfield vibes at one or two moments.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Saturday, 26 January 2019 22:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Nighttime Birds and Morning Stars def took a turn away from this thread here but it's still kinda familiar to me and my mid-late '00 love of all those Finnish artists like Kuupuu and Jan Anderzen of Kemialliset Ystävät or Tomutonttu. Also the drawn out vocal humming on top of drones and guitars reminds me a lot of Fursaxa, and I still love all that stuff. TBH all the New Weird musics brought me to american primitive and not the other way around! It's a good album.

Neal Cassady, Sunday, 27 January 2019 20:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

hey Neal :)

Yeah I agree, there's kind of an interesting divide betweeen American primitive ppl that knew about it through folk/roots and then ppl that came to it like you did or for ppl like myself that came to it through namechecks from Thurston Moore etc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

nice, i really like that fossil lickers record from last year ...

tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2019 21:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Hey UMS, hope you're doing well! And Steve too.

Glad to hear that Tyler! It's our first Blue Hole tape to go OOP :)

Working on a new website right now (hopefully) in time for the Padang Food Tigers tape in Feb.

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 31 January 2019 00:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ah, Padang Food Tigers, nice! Will buy.

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Sarah Louise was the artist I saw taking in the most other artists' sets at last year's Pickathon, including Kikagaku Moyo and Milo (the rapper from Milwaukee).

i thought that was cool.

alpine static, Thursday, 31 January 2019 03:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

She was exceedingly cool and gracious the one time I got to meet her

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 2 February 2019 03:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"Rime" sounded really good in the van tonight.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Saturday, 2 February 2019 03:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this was posted on another board i frequent, really enjoying it. that artist description is a real sweet spot:

we are a trio of keys, acoustic guitars, and violin playing half to fully improvised music, and if you're into john adams, steve reich, ravi shankar, robbie basho, james blackshaw, or just minimal/ambient/acoustic music in general, we think you'll like what we do

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ooh this sounds nice, thanks for the heads up.
been digging this thing lately:
a loop-y situation, but done very well.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ha, was just coming to post this ^^

alpine static, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:26 (one week ago) Permalink

it is lovely

i need more Herbcraft in my life, i think

alpine static, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:27 (one week ago) Permalink

I quite like both of these very different covers.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 February 2019 00:27 (one week ago) Permalink

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