ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

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that amy in quebec track is so close to wine&roses/red pony/approaching of the disco void its almost a cover

ogmor, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:07 (three years ago) Permalink

was watching some fahey live on youtube last's an 81 gig, with apparently Michael Hedges opening (sorry folks no records available didn't get pressed in time)...Fahey is being really smarmy in his banter, the set itself verges from awkward to hypnotic, found his flopping down combover hair kind of distracting

this is a 2000 set, he does a lot of dicking around/joking around at the beginning, but about the 7:40 mark on he gets going and it's actually pretty cool

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:11 (three years ago) Permalink

We going the "https:..." route to skip embeds? Not that I don't love opening this thread to shots of Fahey at his weirdest ....

grandavis, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:22 (three years ago) Permalink

oops sorry

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:23 (three years ago) Permalink

A leaner/meaner thread for 2015 I guess. I'll miss the Fahey gut though.

grandavis, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Transmissions Fest footage is new to me, awesome. I wish more people openly talked about his later work without full on the talk of "well, I don't know about this, but look at what he used to do." The only thing that I can't fully grasp is the Hitomi material, some of it is played in that Transmissions Fest video. Kinda feel like it goes down easier when you get to watch him play like that, on record is another thing. There is another noodley electric gig on youtube that actually does have a lot of syncopation; and getting to hear old styles on an electric is pretty nice. There aren't many artists that went so far in the other direction, let alone an instance where you get to watch past material with a new technique. Defiantly would rather have had Fahey do all that then not. I dig The Mill Pond lots. It's not too different than some of the stuff that is out there today. Womblife gets so zonked in parts you can't help but grin.

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:03 (three years ago) Permalink

Loving this Glenn Jones tune, "The Teething Necklace (For John Fahey)"

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:05 (three years ago) Permalink

Couple things I put together,

John Fahey's Adelphi Sessions, the Dance of Death outtakes. Uploaded as MP3's, posted on my blog:

Scanned my copy of the mail order catalog from Fonotone Records, interesting curio. Includes the numerous early Fahey comps Joe Bussard curated for Fonotone.

I finally put together some new lapstyle material and wanted to share it here. "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" sits as is, in a sorta demo state. I didn't want to forget all the new ideas I've been having, yet also told myself I wouldn't record again until I bought a nice microphone. Of course, I got impatient, so here we are. Before they find a home somewhere, I do want to properly record them.

Link for the MP3's are posted here,

Neal Cassady, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:51 (three years ago) Permalink

Look forward to checking this stuff out

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 03:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Cool, thanks Neal! Actually already listened to your "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks (Mr. Avant Ghetto threw them up on twitter yesterday), really enjoyed them. First track sucked me right in, so yeah make a recording you are happy with and I am on board!

grandavis, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:57 (three years ago) Permalink

neal - or others - what microphones/mic pres do you guys use? this coming year i need to get serious about recording an album

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:11 (three years ago) Permalink

like your new stuff neal

the only Tashi Dorji song on Spotify is a cool little curio, electronic remix featuring his guitar of a song by some psychey dude name Al Lover

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:00 (three years ago) Permalink

Thanks dudes, I have always just been using a portable digital Tascam recorder from B&H Photo that I bought a while back. It fits in your pocket so I've used it while out and walking around, but it's not a good choice for recording guitar at this point, I loved it at first bc of how much of an improvement it was over using the internal MacBook mic. I sold my two amps (+all other musical electronics) years ago during collage, which I regret now. As I would like to record traditionally with a mic and amp set up. Either using the sound hole or install a pick up. How about USB mics? Been talked about here before I think. Decent clarity from the models available now?

Neal Cassady, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:34 (three years ago) Permalink

I think the solution is to just meet someone in town with a set up :) - that way I can avoid all of this.

Neal Cassady, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:36 (three years ago) Permalink

I've posted things upthread recorded with the Blue Yeti (120 new but you can def find a ton of these used on ebay, got mine for 80 on craigslist)

you can hear the stuff i've done, which is minimally processed, a bit EQd and maybe compressed slighty with some audicity plugin reverb on it, but overall I'd say USB mics have come a long way

of course, I'm just plotting about how I want to get a USB DAC/Mic pre unit and a better XLR mic so I suppose one is always unsatisfied.

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:38 (three years ago) Permalink

gonna check out yr new thing neal! i've dug the rag lore things i've heard so far.
just got hipped to this thing via soft abuse's twitter -- maybe it was mentioned on the old thread? - kind of low-key/dreamy/fieldrecording-y/acoustic action. i like it!

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:45 (three years ago) Permalink

Neal there is also a USB model of the Blue Spark which is supposed to be great on acoustics

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 December 2014 00:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Nice yeah, I remember reading a while back about you UMS using the Blue Yeti for your material. If you search a phrase like 'USB mic acoustic guitar' on youtube the Blue Yeti seems to comes up the most, also something called the Snowball. Though, I think based on the sound samples the Yeti comes out on top. I'll look into that Blue Spark too.

No other time than now to get a project down. Should defiantly put together something. Stick it on a tape and send it to people, flinging around links is nerve racking sometimes though.

I used to work at the main public library of Virginia and was hired at the perfect moment where they were getting rid of all the old analog stereo equipment and vinyl records. It was a dream to hoard of that kind of stuff. I got a working reel to reel, but haven't yet grabbed any tape to use it. Would love to have it up and running.

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Reel to reel would sound great

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:41 (three years ago) Permalink

Grandavis did you end up heading to the hometown Daniel Bachman gig in Fredericksburg? A full video of it was posted a few days ago - includes some of the new material that should be coming up on the Three Lobed Record.

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 18 December 2014 04:34 (three years ago) Permalink

Nah, I had to skip it as it was early in the day and I had too much to do. Watched the video already though! Wanna reiterate that I really like the new tunes that'll be on the next record. Bachman is chugging along into some sweet territory. The lap stuff is a real joy live too.

grandavis, Thursday, 18 December 2014 13:03 (three years ago) Permalink

listening to that new Bachman right now, loving it, getting some sweet "Paris, Texas" vibes off of "Coming Home"

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:07 (three years ago) Permalink

btw global is gonna be opening for bachman in mpls in the new year!

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 02:59 (three years ago) Permalink

Very good shows happening in mpls these days, would love to catch that Metzger one (w/ Global and UMS) as well. Have fun with that.

grandavis, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:25 (three years ago) Permalink

Pretty nice playlist here from John Mulvey (his Uncut series). Lots of stuff hit up in this thread, but throwing more kudos towards Neal's Rag Lore "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks. Cool to see folks from here getting out there and bringing it. Hope you get that record made this year UMS!

grandavis, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:28 (three years ago) Permalink

my goal is to upgrade to a small basement studio, been scoping out gear and i think i get get a good setup going for less than $500

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 15:47 (three years ago) Permalink

so easy to get obsessed w/researching gear/recording stuff but you also gotta remember that you won't ever make anything 1/2 as a good as a blind blake record that was recorded at less fidelity than the microphone on your iphone

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 15:48 (three years ago) Permalink

i use my phone to record and i think it sounds pretty good!

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:21 (three years ago) Permalink

for a basement recording with a device not built intentionally to record music

vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:22 (three years ago) Permalink

i am usually amazed by how good those iphone recordings come out. i mean, obviously not pro quality or anything... but good!

tylerw, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:31 (three years ago) Permalink

fwiw I once again voice my preference for separate threads for making this music / listening to this music. I'd frequent both, but these threads get p unwieldy as it is without microphone reviews and stuff.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:58 (three years ago) Permalink

merry christmas guys

"hello there, uh John Fahey here.."

Neal Cassady, Friday, 26 December 2014 04:04 (three years ago) Permalink

I thought "https" was supposed to block video embeds?

Oh well :/ still wishing well to everyone here anyway!

Neal Cassady, Friday, 26 December 2014 04:07 (three years ago) Permalink

Alright, ventured into test threads.

Both "http" and "https" will embed viewable youtubes for me in Safari and Chrome.
If I use "www" as well as no URL prefix at all, the video won't embed.

Though, if I head back to the old thread, "https" links are still the way they were: not embedded.
That's all I've got, maybe this isn't the case for everyone else, but I'll leave out all http(s) going forward.

Neal Cassady, Friday, 26 December 2014 05:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Always nice to spin the New Possibility during Xmas

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 December 2014 12:15 (three years ago) Permalink

this track here sounding awesome. wish records from these folks weren't so expensive to get shipped to the states... they're all so great!!

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 27 December 2014 18:26 (three years ago) Permalink

hey my wife came across this LP bc she's a massive dorothy parker fan and we mail-ordered it, it's music set to lyrics taken from parker's poetry. i think it would appeal to a lot of you guys.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:00 (three years ago) Permalink

heh, i just sold that to somebody. i liked it, but found i wasn't returning to it very often.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:07 (three years ago) Permalink

was listening to "the new possibility" last night and realized i don't really like it all that much. it seems very staid and unexciting compared to other fahey albums of the era. not the same heady mix of influences except in a few isolated passages. how to fahey fans rate those xmas albums anyway?

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:09 (three years ago) Permalink

i think it sounds like a good idea on paper but it's a bit flat overall. especially as he kept on doing more and more of them. i think definitely an attempt to get some crossover money from the windham hill/leo kottke 'hot tub music' crowd.

don't really need to listen to it when i've got the Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:32 (three years ago) Permalink

the crossover money must have worked for him, pretty sure every single fahey section in used record stores around town is stocked with multiple copies of those. i'm always hopeful when i start to rifle through and then i see a dozen xmas lps and one battered to shit copy of 'after the ball'...

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:35 (three years ago) Permalink

The second Fahey christmas album is way better than the first because it sounds less like a christmas album and more like a proper Fahey album.

austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:37 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, i do like that one better... ironically (?) that one is harder to find, i think it's OOP.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:45 (three years ago) Permalink

Speaking as a fan of Fahey and a fan of Christmas music, I don't listen to them much either - they sound too dry, austere to bring me much joy.

ticket to rmde (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:53 (three years ago) Permalink

i th ink of them as being more conventionally pretty but less engaging than other fahey albums.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:56 (three years ago) Permalink

it's also sort of jarring to hear a lot of fahey's 'tricks' and picking techniques applied to something so straightforward as a christmas song you've heard a million times

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 01:56 (three years ago) Permalink

"christ's saints of god fantasy" is a legit great piece, I like the slightly ridiculous russian christmas overture on the second album a lot too. all the best fahey duets are on old fashioned love imo but the ruskin ones aren't bad. I like some of the standards esp silent night on slide guitar, that's so gorgeous. the last piece on the second album is a bizarre mix of fahey in brooding bola sete mode and festive cheer that's my kind of christmas tune

ogmor, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:21 (three years ago) Permalink

^Agreed about "Christ's Saints of God Fantasy". From what I can recall, there were more than a couple moments that I do dig on the New Possibility. Maybe it's that all those moments came from this tune + "Silent Night".

The New Possibility (1968)
Christmas With John Fahey Volume II (1975)
Christmas Guitar - Volume One (1982)
Popular Songs of Christmas & New Years - with Terry Robb (1983)

I've always confusingly stared at inclusion of "Volume One" on the 1980 release, maybe it's because Varrick envisioned an entire series of "Christmas Guitar" on their label? Come to think of it, I've never listened to the 1983 release with Terry Robb. Not exactly a Christmas album, but "Yes, Jesus Loves Me - Guitar Hymns" (1980), could be included in this vein as well, and I'd say it's a pretty good one. Fahey is probably the only Christian music I've loved this much, hah! Imagine if his only recorded output was the Christmas albums and albums of hymns. What would our contemporary look like?

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:51 (three years ago) Permalink

**I've always confusingly stared at inclusion of "Volume One" on the 1982 release

Neal Cassady, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:52 (three years ago) Permalink

IIRC the playing can get a little sloppy (or "goopy" IMO) on yes, jesus loves me, but it's still somehow one of the better fahey albums, just because he draws a lot of inspiration from those old hymns.

i wonder why the 2nd christmas LP hasn't been properly reissued/remastered.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 03:13 (three years ago) Permalink

No balearic vibes to be found, just my usual styles/approach provided severe limitations and transported to a few new instruments. Also lets be clear, my music is never going to be hot (which is fine by me).

grandavis, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I recently tried and failed to tune my guitar to a traditional Portuguese tuning (need to check later what it actually became) after visiting the country recently.
Starting to have fun playing again! I'd cooled off a bit due to other distractions.

― Evan, Wednesday, December 5, 2018 12:20 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah would be interested in hearing/learning more about this tuning....

Balearic is like neoliberalism I've been pretending I know what I means for years but I really don't
I think it's like...Dire Straits but more tropical and dance music? I dunno

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:33 (one week ago) Permalink

Rather than "traditional" it's better described as the tuning for the Portuguese guitar, which is a unique instrument and very beautiful. I tried a whole bunch of them out in a store in Porto.

I believe I got the tuning here:

I ended up not following it perfectly!


Evan, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:34 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm not going to pretend I know what anything vaguely defined really means. I envy people that do.

However I feel like I could point out a Balear in a crowd.

What I think is balearic music is the specialty of this store:

Evan, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

xpost - thanks! i'm gonna get super balaeric tonight in portuguese tuning

i didn't know the portuguese guitar was a thing, how big is it? I can't tell if it's small like a mandolin or balalaika

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:41 (one week ago) Permalink

It's basically reg western guitar size! Neck is a little shorter.

Evan, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:44 (one week ago) Permalink

that's lovely

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:54 (one week ago) Permalink

(ultra dubie)

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:49 (three days ago) Permalink

Better get those advance tickets now

Evan, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:50 (three days ago) Permalink

Hah hah. That is great.

grandavis, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:21 (three days ago) Permalink

sandy bull...john fahey...the ultra dubie brothers

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:53 (three days ago) Permalink

even though i think they played together a fair amount i kind of imagine fahey and bull just glaring at each other backstage.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:03 (three days ago) Permalink

was Bull more popular than Fahey at that point? (he looks like the headliner on the flier)

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:08 (three days ago) Permalink

i don't know — i can only imagine the same 27 dudes were buying their records ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:55 (three days ago) Permalink

Not to be confused with the 27 million people that bought the Fahey x-mas album

Evan, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:27 (three days ago) Permalink

don't know if joseph allred has been discussed much itt, but i like him a lot

did not see him at 1000 rose unfortunately

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:20 (two days ago) Permalink

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