My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest man alive: THE FLASH tv show

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i also love that cisco looks like he could have teleported in from any hacker show over the last twenty-five years

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:18 (four years ago) link

he also looks like he could be taylor lautner's dorky cousin

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:20 (four years ago) link

has jesse l martin always looked like he's about to cry? i never noticed that until this show. granted his character has a million to reasons to be catching feelings at any moment.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:23 (four years ago) link

dude was a single parent to his daughter and his friend's son, said friend being put in jail for murdering his wife only it turns out the wife was murdered by someone with the same magical powers the kid now uses to risk his life constantly. meanwhile the kid really wants to fuck his daughter but can't because his daughter is fucking his partner.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:27 (four years ago) link

I like this show a lot. It's generally been better than Arrow's season 3 so far (whose story arc for this season only really started in the 9th episode) and certainly off to a better start than Arrow's season 1.

It's fun and joyous and the supporting characters are all fantastic aside from poor Iris who really needs something to do that isn't obsessing over the Flash or being lovey dovey with Eddie. Yeah okay so bad stuff happens sometimes and Barry Allen's childhood was traumatic but it's nice that hasn't been used as a reason to make another tormented hero in the vein of Oliver Queen or Nolan's Batman. Nothing wrong with those characters, it's just refreshing to have some contrast/variation.

salsa shark, Saturday, 13 December 2014 12:38 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

ahahaha "absolute hot"

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:05 (four years ago) link

"It's so hot, it's like, 'How much more hot could this be?' And the answer is, none. None more hot."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:10 (four years ago) link

man those cops were lucky cap'n cold shot his freeze ray directly at their shields rather than their almost entirely exposed legs

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:31 (four years ago) link

gotta get the clock man to team up with 'em for the full prison break reunion.

pandemic, Friday, 23 January 2015 12:25 (four years ago) link

and peter stormare's playing count vertigo over in arrow!

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 12:50 (four years ago) link

xp that closing shot of the last episode, with the non-reveal of whoever Wentorth Miller greeted with, "Hi, sis," my wife said "If that's Sara Tancredi I'm out."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 13:52 (four years ago) link

That'd be Lisa Snart, the secret identity of The Golden Glider.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:25 (four years ago) link

Felt unusually poorly written, between the exposition-heavy dialogue (admittedly its the mid-season premiere), cold's unexplained relish for the corniest villain speak (really needed someone to call him out) and little bits like jesse l Martin saying he's going to give iris and Barry time alone, only we pan back after the convo and see he just went to the couch directly behind them.

I'm not really looking for people to point out corn, cliche and plot holes in earlier episodes. There was still bits I dug and it pushed the plot forward, this was just the first time I was distracted by flaws.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:27 (four years ago) link

am i the only one a little bit creeped out by barry being in love with a woman who could kinda be considered his sister? i know they're not related but they did grow up together and it feels weird to me.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:38 (four years ago) link

I wouldn't say I'm creeped out, which is probably a credit to the actors, but their family dynamic is definitely weird as fuck.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:41 (four years ago) link

prison break dude is terrible in this

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:05 (four years ago) link

but no one would be good with those lines tbf

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:06 (four years ago) link

they're both prison break dudes, but either way you're otm

don't recall being annoyed by cold the first time, though

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:16 (four years ago) link

he was chewing the scenery in his first appearance but he seems to be having more difficulty digesting it this time around

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:17 (four years ago) link

i was like "is everyone involved too busy high-fiving over the prison break reunion to notice how inexplicably goofy they're coming off right now?" - and as i had no beef with the girder clearly i'm not asking for that much emotional grounding

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:30 (four years ago) link

if cold had expressed a jealousy of the flash - "Everybody thinks he's so cool but i'm the most awesome guy ever" that would have explained his cartoon bad boy shtick a little, but if all he cares about is being heist-puller #1 there's no reason to be acting like poochie on every network

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:32 (four years ago) link

heat wave's hammy pyro bit at least is part of a long history of hammy pyros on tv

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:34 (four years ago) link

i think the problem is that wentworth miller just isn't a good enough actor to pull off the over-the-top moustache-twirling villainy he's aiming for (or president keyes otm in other words)

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:35 (four years ago) link

yeah if it was more fun i would have been likely to forgive its randomness too

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:42 (four years ago) link

on the bright side, goddamn i can't believe how much i enjoy tom cavanagh in this compared to everything else i've ever seen him in

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:43 (four years ago) link

he's like a used car salesman who knows it's a lemon but truly believes the world will be a better place if you buy it

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:43 (four years ago) link

yeah, he walks the line between being a gee-whiz scientist and a sinister weirdo really well.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:46 (four years ago) link

i am worried this show will be like heroes, where it will build to such a climax this season (esp if they reveal the prof's whole deal to barry) that next season won't have the same narrative thrust. hope they can find a way to give some resolution to the reverse-flash thing without turning the prof into a straight villain. i love his balancing act too much to wanna lose it.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link

also torn whether i want to see grodd now now now or know that a talking gorilla is still out there...waiting

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link

xp i think that's a legit concern. i was surprised that they got to the reverse flash reveal so quickly but now that they have i guess they'll be building towards a season finale featuring the time-crisis that's in the headlines of wells' newspaper from the future?

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:01 (four years ago) link

and presumably a fight between barry and the reverse flash which goes back through time, possibly creating the lightning which struck barry on the way to the scene of his mother's murder?

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:02 (four years ago) link

Looks like there's a means to an end thing with that reverse flash.
So I wonder if there was something worse in an alternative future that he had to retcon engineer things for.
Definitely looked like without the Flash being present in the show's current day or later in that timestream some calamity happened.
Seems really drastic that they'd have to kill Barry Allen's mum to ensure he was motivated to become The Flash though?

Stevolende, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:18 (four years ago) link

Not 100% sure that really is a reveal that the Prof is the Reverse Flash. Just because he knows about the suit and character doesn't necessarily mean it's him. Not least because there's a charade name already in use in the series directly related to the identity of (one of) the Reverse Flash(es) in the comics...

Barry Allen's mum dying is a big thing in recent-era Flash - him trying to prevent her death is the entire premise for how Flashpoint plays out.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:51 (four years ago) link

I thought the Reverse Flash looked like that Chris Hardwick cop dude

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (four years ago) link

yeah, it does seem like eddie thawne could well be more than just a red herring.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (four years ago) link

Also the thing in the future is Crisis On Infinite Earths - the headline in the newspaper about red skies gives it away, plus use of the word Crisis. Barry Allen died during it (although beware, retcon during Final Crisis) hence 'disappeared' in the newspaper.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (four years ago) link

Not 100% sure that really is a reveal that the Prof is the Reverse Flash

to be clear, the reveal i was referring to here was the fact that the reverse flash existed and was a threat to barry, not that he was wells. i'm not convinced he's the reverse flash either (or, if he is, someone else won't pick up the mantle or there won't be some time-travel shenanigans to make it less straightforward)

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:59 (four years ago) link

man I really don't wanna see Crisis re-done for tv

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:59 (four years ago) link

xxp yeah, that's what i was alluding to when i mentioned the possibility of time-travelling barry becoming the lightning bolt which gave him his powers (from that secret origins story from way back)

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:01 (four years ago) link

I don't think they'll get as far as the Crisis, but Prof Wells will be someone from the future also who knows the importance of the Crisis and has to make sure that history pans out the way it's supposed to or the Crisis won't happen.

I think that means he's the Monitor, but I'd love to think he might be the Psycho-Pirate.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:11 (four years ago) link

ok would be down with Psycho-Pirate haha that would be p funny

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:13 (four years ago) link

yeah to be clear i don't think the prof IS reverse-flash, by his "whole deal" i just meant barry finding out he's either in cahoots, a future dude or simply not to be trusted.

i can easily see them taking flash-centric aspects of the crisis while avoiding any monitor/earth-2 mumbo jumbo

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:16 (four years ago) link

another funky plot element that i wouldn't sweat if the episode had given me tastier stuff to chew on - is Star labs still a going concern with a staff of three?

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:19 (four years ago) link

that, like, used to have a staff of four (RIP ronnie, heaven needed a guy to drop an acronym to his fiancee and then fire-fart away)

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:19 (four years ago) link

wells is actually Jay Garrick

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:20 (four years ago) link

When they whipped that F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M. acronym out all I could think of was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XnS1BncrYM

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:25 (four years ago) link

I'm guessing Vibe and Killer Frost will turn up in S2 and with the Prof Welles reveal also bye-bye S.T.A.R. Labs - although I could see Barry working with A.R.G.U.S. instead maybe?

I'd hope Atom will migrate from Arrow to Flash.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 17:26 (four years ago) link

haha i was just about to say i'm hoping against hope this show isn't a "just watch season one" flame-out but a "oh i still liked the show when cisco became vibe in season five" gradual shark-jumper

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:28 (four years ago) link

though dc's tv plan is apparently throw everything against the wall and see what sticks so if there's a long-term game plan it's coming from the showrunners not the studio

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:29 (four years ago) link

wells is actually Jay Garrick

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oh god, flashbacks to the JSA episodes of smallville

they do keep mentioning a mercury labs or mercury corporation, so maybe max mercury will show up at some point

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 18:53 (four years ago) link

His girlfriend(?) from OG Flash was also cast in a role on this show. Not to mention Hammill reprising his role as Trickster.

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:54 (two months ago) link

Agreed on the awfulness of this week's ep. Hated Marvel's Civil War due to pitting characters with decades of shared experience against each other, hamhandedly to drive the "superheroes "fite!" plot. This last Flash had the same bad feeling of characters who should be able to rationally talk things through instead using ill-reasoned arguments setting up poor decisions to gain a predetermined end. But with the free rein given to Chris Klein's growlybear performance, it's just high expectations unmet.

And at least they haven't had a drum-playing octopus. Now watching Aquaman and hoping Marvel takes some lessons for Namor to avoid.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:03 (two months ago) link

TS: drum-playing octopi vs. drum-playing ants

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:22 (two months ago) link

Ha! Well-played, sir. I gave the ant more of a pass because the comedy is integral to Ant-Man and the drumming ant was a robot. Definite Marvel bias in my suspension of disbelief.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 April 2019 02:29 (two months ago) link

That Harewood autocorrect was a good one, thanks sic.

I spotted John Wesley Shipp (who also plays Jay Garrick, in a possibly even more on the nose role) and Mark Hammill but kind of put them in stunt casting along with Helen Slater, Dean Cain and Lynda Carter in Supergirl.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:33 (two months ago) link

I also did not know the David Cassidy thing.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:36 (two months ago) link

Don't forget Teri Hatcher!

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 09:54 (two months ago) link

Yes, another from the in-joke stunt casting basket.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 18 April 2019 09:58 (two months ago) link

And at least they haven't had a drum-playing octopus. Now watching Aquaman and hoping Marvel takes some lessons for Namor to avoid.

marvel, no weirdness or fun in yr movie about the king of sunken atlantis who cuts about in a chainmail speedo and can fly using the little wings on his ankles

Boris Bronfentrinker of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 April 2019 10:01 (two months ago) link

You insult my sartorial forebear and you insult me, good sir (violently wrenches chainmail wedgie out of buttcrack).

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 12:04 (two months ago) link

Catching up on the last half dozen Supergirls atm and...am I nuts or does Brainiac Actor have seemingly no interest in maintaining a consistent vocal inflection? He sounds like a Hanna-Barbera character at the moment, which is not what he used to do. I keep expecting him to let slip with a 'Zounds! Heavens to Murgatroyd!'

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 12:13 (two months ago) link

the beard hunter chowing down on a big lump of plughole hair is maybe the most upsetting thing i’ve ever seen on tv

three weeks pass...

The Flash finale kind of fizzled out tbh. The idea of the Reverse Flash masterplan (to avoid spoilers) was a good one but nobody in their right mind could tolerate Nora for a second longer and her role in the plan kind of made no sense with maguffin on top of maguffin. Chris Klein only became more unbearable as the weeks went on and whatever was going on with the mind probe was just impossible to follow.

Arrow wound up with a whimper too. By the end the future makeup actually got worse than I thought it was upthread and the wigs... But everyone's story is done and Ollie has gone off with the Monitor for the truncated final season which only goes up to the Crisis crossover. Hoping for Legends type insanity on other worlds. Will probably just get 10 shades of growlybears.

But then Flash wrapped everybody up too. No idea what it's going to do prior to Crisis unless it's just Monster Of The Week in which case YAY.

Supergirl continues to impress and confound in equal measure. The Lex plot has been great but the Red Daughter woefully underused. Haven't cared about the Lockwood thing - and the President cliffhanger was dreadfully mishandled - but the fate of Braniac going into the finale is superb. Needs to pivot back to MOTW and goofy silver age shit to make me love it but it'll do.

Legends otoh has gone from strength to strength to yet further strength. This season has been pretty incredible and somehow the race to the finale has been even better than an already unbelievably strong first half. Only minus points are for Mona's arc in the second half, mainly because I think she's rotten in *those* scenes (not helped by dreadful makeup) and is/was far better as the wide-eyed innocent dreamer.

Doom Patrol has kept the standards up too, even if I think Flex Mentallo is way OP in this version. The funeral episode might have been the highspot of the season.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:37 (two months ago) link


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