My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest man alive: THE FLASH tv show

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as implied by my ecstacy over the word "GRODD" i also love the little hints at DC lore to come, i.e. the dead Star Labs dude being named Ronnie Raymond

from what i understand barry allen made friends with arrow when visiting keystone city, then got powers, but lives in central city so they're more like facebook buddies than co-workers

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:22 (four years ago) link

if this and arrow keep up the good buzz i think there's a very good chance that DC will wake up and incorporate these guys into film justice league plans. Unless Ezra Miller is all over BatSupes they've certainly got the time to come around and realize film/tv synergy wouldn't be a bad thing

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:23 (four years ago) link

honestly grant gustin could be a bonafide celeb by the time the hypothetical flash movie is due to appear

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:25 (four years ago) link

lol would love to see Grodd on this show

I haven't watched Arrow at all, totally inessential viewing in respect to the Flash

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:37 (four years ago) link

as much as i love the dc lore/rogues gallery stuff, i think the thing that really stands out is how his power isn't a problem but the way OUT of his problems. even spidey in the films always acts like being spidey kinda sucks, barry allen's a well-intentioned dude who wants to help people and now can in ways that thrill him both physically and mentally.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:59 (four years ago) link

true, he is refreshingly angst-free.

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:02 (four years ago) link

it's weird/sad because I always stress to my daughter that Superman is not the greatest superhero because he is the most powerful, but because he always does the right thing. He's an ideal. But most contemporary superhero films depict superheroes doing the right thing almost incidentally - their real motivations are usually guilt or anger or some "this time it's PERSONAL" vendetta type thing. I'm so sick of that.

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:04 (four years ago) link

xp
Funny you say that given the dead mother retcon that spawned half the series' major plot points thus far.

tsrobodo, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:06 (four years ago) link

I mean I like the show but a lot of it serves to remind me why I don't read DC comics anymore

tsrobodo, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:07 (four years ago) link

yeah he's still an orphan who can't tell a girl how he feels, it's just that being The Flash is a win rather than a burden.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:07 (four years ago) link

I've noticed references to that (the case is unsolved or something) but most of that's gone by me or I missed it

maybe this is worth watching w my daughter actually, it's had a pretty tame tone iirc

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah my niece loves it but she's a Glee transplant and was sold at Gustin, that being said I can see it taking dark turns in search of gravitas in future seasons.

tsrobodo, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:13 (four years ago) link

yeah his mom was killed by the reverse-flash (not a spoiler if you know what the reverse-flash looks like), with his dad thrown in jail by the weepy-eyed detective who then raised him. so it is personal but it hasn't stopped him from being a pleasant goober boy scout.

xpost yeah i'm worried the tone could change on a dime, esp if there's a change in management.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:15 (four years ago) link

he named his quiz team E=MC Hammer

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:17 (four years ago) link

i also love that cisco looks like he could have teleported in from any hacker show over the last twenty-five years

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:18 (four years ago) link

he also looks like he could be taylor lautner's dorky cousin

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:20 (four years ago) link

has jesse l martin always looked like he's about to cry? i never noticed that until this show. granted his character has a million to reasons to be catching feelings at any moment.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:23 (four years ago) link

dude was a single parent to his daughter and his friend's son, said friend being put in jail for murdering his wife only it turns out the wife was murdered by someone with the same magical powers the kid now uses to risk his life constantly. meanwhile the kid really wants to fuck his daughter but can't because his daughter is fucking his partner.

da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:27 (four years ago) link

I like this show a lot. It's generally been better than Arrow's season 3 so far (whose story arc for this season only really started in the 9th episode) and certainly off to a better start than Arrow's season 1.

It's fun and joyous and the supporting characters are all fantastic aside from poor Iris who really needs something to do that isn't obsessing over the Flash or being lovey dovey with Eddie. Yeah okay so bad stuff happens sometimes and Barry Allen's childhood was traumatic but it's nice that hasn't been used as a reason to make another tormented hero in the vein of Oliver Queen or Nolan's Batman. Nothing wrong with those characters, it's just refreshing to have some contrast/variation.

salsa shark, Saturday, 13 December 2014 12:38 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

ahahaha "absolute hot"

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:05 (four years ago) link

"It's so hot, it's like, 'How much more hot could this be?' And the answer is, none. None more hot."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:10 (four years ago) link

man those cops were lucky cap'n cold shot his freeze ray directly at their shields rather than their almost entirely exposed legs

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:31 (four years ago) link

gotta get the clock man to team up with 'em for the full prison break reunion.

pandemic, Friday, 23 January 2015 12:25 (four years ago) link

and peter stormare's playing count vertigo over in arrow!

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 12:50 (four years ago) link

xp that closing shot of the last episode, with the non-reveal of whoever Wentorth Miller greeted with, "Hi, sis," my wife said "If that's Sara Tancredi I'm out."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 13:52 (four years ago) link

That'd be Lisa Snart, the secret identity of The Golden Glider.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:25 (four years ago) link

Felt unusually poorly written, between the exposition-heavy dialogue (admittedly its the mid-season premiere), cold's unexplained relish for the corniest villain speak (really needed someone to call him out) and little bits like jesse l Martin saying he's going to give iris and Barry time alone, only we pan back after the convo and see he just went to the couch directly behind them.

I'm not really looking for people to point out corn, cliche and plot holes in earlier episodes. There was still bits I dug and it pushed the plot forward, this was just the first time I was distracted by flaws.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:27 (four years ago) link

am i the only one a little bit creeped out by barry being in love with a woman who could kinda be considered his sister? i know they're not related but they did grow up together and it feels weird to me.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:38 (four years ago) link

I wouldn't say I'm creeped out, which is probably a credit to the actors, but their family dynamic is definitely weird as fuck.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:41 (four years ago) link

prison break dude is terrible in this

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:05 (four years ago) link

but no one would be good with those lines tbf

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2015 15:06 (four years ago) link

they're both prison break dudes, but either way you're otm

don't recall being annoyed by cold the first time, though

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:16 (four years ago) link

he was chewing the scenery in his first appearance but he seems to be having more difficulty digesting it this time around

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:17 (four years ago) link

i was like "is everyone involved too busy high-fiving over the prison break reunion to notice how inexplicably goofy they're coming off right now?" - and as i had no beef with the girder clearly i'm not asking for that much emotional grounding

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:30 (four years ago) link

if cold had expressed a jealousy of the flash - "Everybody thinks he's so cool but i'm the most awesome guy ever" that would have explained his cartoon bad boy shtick a little, but if all he cares about is being heist-puller #1 there's no reason to be acting like poochie on every network

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:32 (four years ago) link

heat wave's hammy pyro bit at least is part of a long history of hammy pyros on tv

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:34 (four years ago) link

i think the problem is that wentworth miller just isn't a good enough actor to pull off the over-the-top moustache-twirling villainy he's aiming for (or president keyes otm in other words)

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:35 (four years ago) link

yeah if it was more fun i would have been likely to forgive its randomness too

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:42 (four years ago) link

on the bright side, goddamn i can't believe how much i enjoy tom cavanagh in this compared to everything else i've ever seen him in

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:43 (four years ago) link

he's like a used car salesman who knows it's a lemon but truly believes the world will be a better place if you buy it

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:43 (four years ago) link

yeah, he walks the line between being a gee-whiz scientist and a sinister weirdo really well.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:46 (four years ago) link

i am worried this show will be like heroes, where it will build to such a climax this season (esp if they reveal the prof's whole deal to barry) that next season won't have the same narrative thrust. hope they can find a way to give some resolution to the reverse-flash thing without turning the prof into a straight villain. i love his balancing act too much to wanna lose it.

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link

also torn whether i want to see grodd now now now or know that a talking gorilla is still out there...waiting

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link

xp i think that's a legit concern. i was surprised that they got to the reverse flash reveal so quickly but now that they have i guess they'll be building towards a season finale featuring the time-crisis that's in the headlines of wells' newspaper from the future?

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:01 (four years ago) link

and presumably a fight between barry and the reverse flash which goes back through time, possibly creating the lightning which struck barry on the way to the scene of his mother's murder?

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:02 (four years ago) link

Looks like there's a means to an end thing with that reverse flash.
So I wonder if there was something worse in an alternative future that he had to retcon engineer things for.
Definitely looked like without the Flash being present in the show's current day or later in that timestream some calamity happened.
Seems really drastic that they'd have to kill Barry Allen's mum to ensure he was motivated to become The Flash though?

Stevolende, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:18 (four years ago) link

Not 100% sure that really is a reveal that the Prof is the Reverse Flash. Just because he knows about the suit and character doesn't necessarily mean it's him. Not least because there's a charade name already in use in the series directly related to the identity of (one of) the Reverse Flash(es) in the comics...

Barry Allen's mum dying is a big thing in recent-era Flash - him trying to prevent her death is the entire premise for how Flashpoint plays out.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:51 (four years ago) link

I thought the Reverse Flash looked like that Chris Hardwick cop dude

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (four years ago) link

yeah, it does seem like eddie thawne could well be more than just a red herring.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (four years ago) link

Also the thing in the future is Crisis On Infinite Earths - the headline in the newspaper about red skies gives it away, plus use of the word Crisis. Barry Allen died during it (although beware, retcon during Final Crisis) hence 'disappeared' in the newspaper.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (four years ago) link

And at least they haven't had a drum-playing octopus. Now watching Aquaman and hoping Marvel takes some lessons for Namor to avoid.

marvel, no weirdness or fun in yr movie about the king of sunken atlantis who cuts about in a chainmail speedo and can fly using the little wings on his ankles

Boris Bronfentrinker of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 April 2019 10:01 (six months ago) link

You insult my sartorial forebear and you insult me, good sir (violently wrenches chainmail wedgie out of buttcrack).

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 12:04 (six months ago) link

Catching up on the last half dozen Supergirls atm and...am I nuts or does Brainiac Actor have seemingly no interest in maintaining a consistent vocal inflection? He sounds like a Hanna-Barbera character at the moment, which is not what he used to do. I keep expecting him to let slip with a 'Zounds! Heavens to Murgatroyd!'

A Cheetah Drenched in Applesauce (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 April 2019 12:13 (six months ago) link

the beard hunter chowing down on a big lump of plughole hair is maybe the most upsetting thing i’ve ever seen on tv

three weeks pass...

The Flash finale kind of fizzled out tbh. The idea of the Reverse Flash masterplan (to avoid spoilers) was a good one but nobody in their right mind could tolerate Nora for a second longer and her role in the plan kind of made no sense with maguffin on top of maguffin. Chris Klein only became more unbearable as the weeks went on and whatever was going on with the mind probe was just impossible to follow.

Arrow wound up with a whimper too. By the end the future makeup actually got worse than I thought it was upthread and the wigs... But everyone's story is done and Ollie has gone off with the Monitor for the truncated final season which only goes up to the Crisis crossover. Hoping for Legends type insanity on other worlds. Will probably just get 10 shades of growlybears.

But then Flash wrapped everybody up too. No idea what it's going to do prior to Crisis unless it's just Monster Of The Week in which case YAY.

Supergirl continues to impress and confound in equal measure. The Lex plot has been great but the Red Daughter woefully underused. Haven't cared about the Lockwood thing - and the President cliffhanger was dreadfully mishandled - but the fate of Braniac going into the finale is superb. Needs to pivot back to MOTW and goofy silver age shit to make me love it but it'll do.

Legends otoh has gone from strength to strength to yet further strength. This season has been pretty incredible and somehow the race to the finale has been even better than an already unbelievably strong first half. Only minus points are for Mona's arc in the second half, mainly because I think she's rotten in *those* scenes (not helped by dreadful makeup) and is/was far better as the wide-eyed innocent dreamer.

Doom Patrol has kept the standards up too, even if I think Flex Mentallo is way OP in this version. The funeral episode might have been the highspot of the season.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:37 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Doom Patrol never dipped at any point really and was great all the way through.

I've enjoyed Swamp Thing a lot, bits are very Moore-faithful although it definitely is skewed for TV (and I don't really like what they've done with Blue Devil).

Krypton has been pretty weak although Braniac has been excellent. Lobo was as predictably bad as you might think.

I can't in any good conscience suggest anyone watch Pennyworth, however, fans of the sort of car-crash wrong only US TV gets England and the atrocity which is Paloma Faith's acting may get some small comfort.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:46 (two months ago) link

I haven't even formally acknowledged that the latter two happened (see also: Gotham). Doom Patrol has been a delight. Swamp Thing...I do want to see it eventually, but its insta-cancellation (and I guess they also had to retroactively rejigger the season to compensate for a reduced episode order?) just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:49 (two months ago) link

lobo? oh noes

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:05 (two months ago) link

I just googled for more info on this development and learned that they are now making a Lobo spinoff show, so that should be good and a lot of fun.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:07 (two months ago) link

how did krypton make it to a second season before i’d even noticed the first had even made it to air

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:12 (two months ago) link

The question its existence prompts for me is: what prompted WB/DC to decide that 'television series about geographical area which will eventually spawn heroes sometime after the series ends' is a legitimate genre that people are clamoring for?

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:26 (two months ago) link

Have you watched Titans? Binged that this weekend. 11 episodes, comfortably padded, still went by fast. Liked the adult casting a lot, particularly Brenton Thwaites as Robin (who I kept thinking must be Robert Sean Leonard's younger brother) and Anna Diop as Starfire. The actor playing Gar / Beast Boy did a good job too, making his character relatable. Rachel / Raven, not bad, if a bit frustrating that the first season's arc centers around her character and seems to get halfway there. SPOILERS-ish: Trigon doesn't appear until episode 10 of 11. 12th episode was delayed for a 2nd season opener.

The Chief, in the Doom Patrol ep, was amoral, almost cruel in his "I give these lost souls a purpose for SCIENCE!". Is that a later interpretation? What little I read of Doom Patrol as a kid, he seemed more a Reed Richards paternal figure.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:28 (two months ago) link

Yeaaaah, as you apparently haven't read Morrison's run on the title, I have some news and you should probably sit down...

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:34 (two months ago) link

I won't spoil any of Swamp Thing then but unless all the rejigging happens in the last episode then they don't appear to have done any. One very specific comics event, for example, is the cliffhanger to the second-last episode and there hasn't been any real setup to the (comics) resolution of it yet.

Krypton sort of has potential but the plotting is clunky as hell with far too many characters and plot threads. Everyone is (literally) everybody else's mother or father irrespective of their age. And although I never expected it, I was still disappointed they never used Braniac's Silver Age skull ship design.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 July 2019 19:36 (two months ago) link

btw how great was dalton as the chief? that guy just plays such great bastards

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:03 (two months ago) link

Braniac's skull ship isn't Silver Age, is it? Wasn't it from Gil Kane early 80s Superman?

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:25 (two months ago) link

You're right!?! It looks completely like a Binder Brainfart, but I suppose he was too busy with a lion's head and giant Jimmy Olsen.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:33 (two months ago) link

1983, designed by Ed Hannigan

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Brainiac544.PNG

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:34 (two months ago) link

Well waddya know.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 July 2019 20:34 (two months ago) link

It's baffling to me that the world seems to aggressively ignore that depiction of the character. It's a friggin' design classic.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 July 2019 21:15 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

I did Pennyworth a massive disservice - after the first episode it got insanely good, massively Avengers (not that one) influenced. The episode where they get the train to the village is absolutely superb.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:34 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Pennyworth never quite reached the same heights again, but is well worth all your time.

After the first episode of Batwoman, I can't work out whether it's incredibly bad or just terrible.

So, your CV says you're a (checks notes) DJ and stand-up comedian (aldo), Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:04 (one week ago) link

I've seen a ridiculous amount of this show since my teen son loves it, but ... I can't imagine willingly watching it alone if I had a choice. The effects are low-rent and it's all just so silly and ... then again, I've never been a Flash fan outside of early JLE (or watched any other TV comic book superhero show that wasn't Lois & Clark) so what do I know?

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:20 (one week ago) link

(Also I've always been more of a Marvel zombie at heart, so.)

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:30 (one week ago) link

Oh, who am I kidding? I did love some DC comics here and there.

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:45 (one week ago) link

gave up on Flash several seasons ago, is he still trying to save his mother?

akm, Sunday, 13 October 2019 04:22 (one week ago) link


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