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Not a cut as such, but you can do so many quick, cheap things with minced beef and lamb.

Madchen, Monday, 8 December 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link

Was it on here somebody mentioned keema recently? 30-45 minutes bish bosh.

Madchen, Monday, 8 December 2014 12:35 (nine years ago) link

Korean-style bulgogi if you can find thinly sliced eye of round or sirloin! Asian grocery stores will have them (generally frozen). I do them with rice in lettuce wraps and that tasty Korean spicy bean paste. And jimc her, of course!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 8 December 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link

Um that should say "kimchee," not jimc

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 8 December 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

made lamb saag for the first time this weekend and it was fucking great. usually when i cook something well the first time out it somehow gets progressively worse on every subsequent occasion, so i'm kinda apprehensive about attempt #2 already.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 8 December 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link

I get fed up with minced beef fast for some reason, but minced lamb I should have more of for sure. Or maybe I just haven't been adventurous enough with the minced beef. Bulgogi is a great idea!

ljubljana, Monday, 8 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

did those ottolenghi meatballs in tahini sauce the other day (with kosheri), not quite as good a job as last time but def a good use of mince

ogmor, Monday, 8 December 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

saw ropa vieja mentioned upthread, what a great dish! i'll make it with rice and black beans on the side with some fried plantains. i like this recipe: http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Cuban-Style-Ropa-Vieja

marcos, Monday, 8 December 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

ok I make an exception re: the beef for meatballs, and I love tahini.

ljubljana, Monday, 8 December 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

Going to a Christmas potluck tomorrow night... decided to make a mushroom crepe cake.

Also, I had an epiphany about tasting for seasonings. I have a bit of an asbestos tongue and realized that I need to let whatever it is cool down before I taste it. I kept oversalting stuff and wondering why it didn't taste so salty on the stove... turns out it was way too hot for me to get an accurate read.

WilliamC, Monday, 15 December 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/XDy65Ec.jpg

Finally made bread entirely w/ my Kitchenaid doing the kneading instead of the no knead method.
500g King Arthur organic bread flour
350g Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro
15g salt
12g instant yeast

Kneaded for 5 min on the 4 power setting, proofed, divided in half, etc.
Baked in a Dutch Oven @ 430F because my oven can't hold higher than that.

I would have liked bigger holes/crumb, but it's delicious, with just a hint of sweetness.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 15 December 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link

looks good!

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 December 2014 06:37 (nine years ago) link

If my bf could get that bread result he'd be so happy. I think he's confused about what kind of yeast he has, activated or un-, and the proofing/rising isn't happening right. My mom is going to give him lessons.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

this bread enthusiasm is like oxygen, as I drown in a sea of home brew ipa

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

IO, maybe introduce him to a no knead method? No real proofing stage needed and almost any yeast will work because of the long ferment. I've enjoyed all my no kneads, I'm trying to do kneaded bread now because I'm impatient.

I follow this master recipe, for the most part:
http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/2010/02/09/back-to-basics-tips-and-techniques-to-create-a-great-loaf-in-5-minutes-a-day

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

He's been doing no-knead for a while but he got a KitchenAid stand mixer and wanted to start using it, so experimented w kneading methods but hasn't figured them out yet!

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

Ah, right on. I'd been nervous about doing it right, too. I have the 6 quart w/ spiral dough hook so ~5 mins seems to be recommended, the smaller ones ~8 mins at medium speed.

I used Fleishmann's instant active yeast. Proofing was two hours in an oiled metal bowl on top of my stove because my duplex was ~65F last night - turning the oven on to 125ish warned the stovetop enough to let it rise.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 15 December 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

got a new 10" cast iron recently and haven't used it a lot except for pan roasting brussels sprouts so i can finish them with a dash of this lovely yuzu soy sauce i picked up in japantown and the wee-est dash of fish sauce. it my new fave vegetable side dish

Tom Waits for no one (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link

i love americans' enthusiastic love of sprouts! here they are often, at best, something to be tolerated

kinder, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

You're not over-cooking them enough. They're not done until they're crunchy, imo.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

I love a fairy cabbage, me. Don't even mind them soggy.

Madchen, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

got some asafoetida delivered through the post - it arrived badly-packed and stank up the entire house for a day. never cooked with it before so i hope the end result is worth it!

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

XXP oh we over-cook them. in boiling water. it's an abomination. we've seen people on tv sautee them with bacon or almonds or whatevr but that's not TRADITIONAL

kinder, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

asafoetida does add a nice layer of complexity to curries that i couldn't get any other way. i bought mine in a little plastic jar, and i i keep that plastic jar inside another tightly closed glass jar. doesn't stink things up at all, though you can still smell it in the spice cabinet

marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

IME doing something other than boiling the hell out of fairy cabbage (I am going to call brussels sprouts fairy cabbage from now on, thanks Madchen) is a fairly recent development in US cooking, at least in my family. Really any vegetable. My family was shocked SHOCKED when as an adult I started eating asparagus and collard greens and sprouts. It was only because I discovered I could prepare them in a way other than boiling them unto sulphur-y mush.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

I had an uneasy peace with broccoli and then I got pregnant and barfed once shortly after eating broccoli and now it can fuck right off.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

I have grown sprouts this year and am having some of them tonight in the sprout/feta/walnut pasta dish that has been on the board before.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

My family was shocked SHOCKED when as an adult I started eating asparagus and collard greens and sprouts. It was only because I discovered I could prepare them in a way other than boiling them unto sulphur-y mush.

Yes! I have a way higher tolerance for mushy overcooked veg than most people, I don't mind steaming (i.e. not boiling) cabbage until it's a mush, but godddd don't leave it in the water while it mushifies or it gets that taste

That said I still haven't come round to asparagus and I don't generally cook sprouts for myself because even though I like them the way most people who are not my mother or my primary school cook them I'm not even really sure what it is about sprouts that can have that sprouty taste. Is it the boiling? Is it how fresh they are (I've heard the fresh ones are more flavourful and thought "yeah, but I don't like the flavour, so that might not help")? Is it a certain strain of them that is getting less ubiquitous but my mother still faithfully searches for?

I used to like broccoli but I buy it a lot less since the time I bought a head of it and realised partway through cooking that despite a rinse it was covered in little brown insects.

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

My go to sprouts recipe is to cut them in half, toss them with salt, pepper, olive oil, and balsamic vinegar, then into the oven at about 400 degrees for at least a half hour. You want them to be very tender with some nice crispy, dark brownness on them. They don't have that funky sulfurous taste to them when you cook them this way. You can cook asparagus the same way, just not as long (also good - tossed with sesame oil, salt, pepper, and sesame seeds).

My mom's special occasion sprouts recipe is sprouts in browned butter. I actually forget how it goes, but she got it from the Joy of Cooking (ubiquitous in American kitchens, at least).

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

The trick for me for collard greens was to cut the damn stems out and cut them into smaller pieces and braise in something flavorful and meaty them as opposed to just throwing those big old stringy stemmy leaves into a pot with water and a slice of fat back and boiling them to hell and back.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

That sentence is a fucking mess. Sorry!

Collards good - take out stems, chiffonade into bite size pieces. Crisp some bacon in a pan, and add some red pepper flakes, maybe garlic, throw in the collards for a quick saute, then braise them in a little stock until they are tender and delicious.
Collards bad - rinse those massive leaves, throw them whole into a giant pot with plain water and a hunt of fatty pork, boil until the entire block smells like farts.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link

I quarter sprouts, toss in melted bacon fat (what, you don't have a washed out soup can of bacon fat in your fridge? Who even ARE you?), s&p, spread across sheet tray and roast at 400-425 for a while, toss, roast, until almost black on the edges.

I actually really don't like their earthy...not quite sweetness otherwise--gotta be roasted and crispy to get some bitterness and whatever that sugar turns into.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

carl totally OTM about collards. i LOVE collards when they are braised in a skillet with good flavors

marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

christmas at my wife's grandma's house was so funny. the grandma is passed now but i just remember her having string beans and carrots and other vegetables in pots just BOILING - not a simmer, BOILING - for ever and ever and ever. like we'd be there all day the vegetables were just boiling all day. shit was GROSS

marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

anyone have any good cassoulet advice? i'm taking it on this weekend and planning to follow this recipe, despite how different it looks from other cassoulets i have tasted and enjoyed

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

christmas at my wife's grandma's house was so funny. the grandma is passed now but i just remember her having string beans and carrots and other vegetables in pots just BOILING - not a simmer, BOILING - for ever and ever and ever. like we'd be there all day the vegetables were just boiling all day. shit was GROSS

I know exactly how that smells. It smells like Christmas at my grandmother's house.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link

My mum used to have to make two lots of veg, one for the grandparents and one for everyone else.

Madchen, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

It makes me wonder what concessions our kids are going to have to make to our weird tastes when we get old.

"Granny insists on having fairy cabbage roasted in the oven with balsamic vinegar, instead of lazerblasted, which is healthier and tastes better!"

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

Gran won't eat food from the replicator. We have to cook everything on a stove!

(nb: damn straight I'd eat replicator food. I'm just biding my time, waiting for the day.)

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

I really, really want to roast fairy cabbage on Dec 25, but I fear many questions and comments and pushing stuff around on plates from the traditionalists.

Was it someone here who posted a few weeks back about romesco sauce? If so, thank you. I had bookmarked it and just made it tonight over sea bass and potatoes - it was superb and really easy. I overdid the smoked paprika a bit.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

Really any vegetable. My family was shocked SHOCKED when as an adult I started eating asparagus and collard greens and sprouts. It was only because I discovered I could prepare them in a way other than boiling them unto sulphur-y mush.

so otm

my sister bought me a STOCKPOT for xmas so i'm gonna see about cookin up some stuff in that. like STOCK. or maybe just bigger batches of beans.

j., Friday, 19 December 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link

bah

decided to make fruitmince pies for myself for Christmas. no tart tins so I figured, hey I'll make turnovers instead. frozen puff pastry, jar of fruitmince, how hard could it be

clearly it was not my morning. cut the pastry squares too small (i was trying for 16 out of each sheet), even the smallest amount of mince splurted outside the seams, and the dough got too soft too quickly so they would fall apart just trying to put them on the baking tray.

so I cracked the shits and threw it all in the bin. I'll give it a day or two and try again when I'm in a better frame of mind.
definitely need bigger squares. some days are just not good cooking days

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 December 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

sometimes we all just ruin things!

kola superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 21 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

things don't ruin we

kinder, Sunday, 21 December 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

back in the ring this afternoon for turnovers round 2

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

"This time it's personal."

nickn, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

prep stage complete. success so far!

...but now the garbage disposal is clogged

#circleoflife

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 December 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

<3 u

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 22 December 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link

they worked! big pillowy flaky turnovers full of yummy fruit mince

uncancel christmas!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 December 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

I cultured my own butter and it's delicious - I used the organic whipping cream from Trader Joe's and some kind of grassfed yogurt, left it covered for two days then ran it through my food processor.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 22 December 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link


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