John Grant - Pale Green Ghosts

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Saw him on Saturday night in Edinburgh and I can only echo what Matt DC said. In-fucking-credible. Hairs raised on my arms for half the gig. The Sinfonia using Rachmaninov's Prelude in C sharp minor to kick off Pale Green Ghosts was just something else. Glaciers, Queen of Denmark, JC Hates Faggots and GMF were all performed to perfection. That's The Good News was absolutely hilarious and the new material sounded like we have another real treat in store. Go see him if you can, you won't regret it.

finn_the_scot, Monday, 1 December 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

Genuinely one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. The new songs - No More Tangles, Geraldine and Global Warming - were all great.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Monday, 1 December 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

Envious beyond belief.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04vk1gd

John Grant on Icelandic music.

djh, Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

... with a slight over emphasis on Blur's Beetlebum.

djh, Sunday, 21 December 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

Press release for his new album is a bit of an emotional rollercoaster - can't wait to hear the pairing of his voice w/Tracey Thorn's, but Amanda Palmer? Whyyyyyyyyy.

etc, Saturday, 8 August 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUgWE71CzWQ&feature=youtu.be

djh, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link

That''s really quite a poor vocal performance from him, IMO and I generally like his vocals a lot. Her's ain't good either but I've nothing to compare it to, maybe she always sounds like that. I enjoyed the riff on yahoo's situation in the opening synth line and I liked the chorus but I don't really get the song overall.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Haven't quite parsed that song yet but the chorus and the last couple of minutes are so good

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

I can't tell if the melodies are surprising or just not enjoyable. giving it time.

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Kinda baffled by the new album tbh? Feels overworked in every direction.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

New song is terrible, that register shift he does in the chorus is... not good at all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

really love his Taylor Swift covers album

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

Not in the US or Canada though -- but it turns out:

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/30/444196884/first-listen-john-grant-grey-tickles-black-pressure

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 October 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link

Hoping this is a grower as my first couple of listens have left me cold (and I much prefer Pale Green Ghosts over Queen of Denmark.)

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 2 October 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I really hate this guy's records for reasons I find hard to articulate. Spotify Discover playlist thinks I will like "Outer Space," apparently, but no. I guess it's the way he adopts this syrupy AM radio sound but doesn't DO anything with it, just kind of perfectly imitates it and then gapes at himself doing so.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

this new album is way too cute

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Great show in Minneapolis last week. "Pale Green Ghosts" and "Queen of Denmark" (the songs) sounded best, but I was impressed by the new stuff too. "I am quite angry, which I barely can conceal" defined the approach, though he's also very gracious as a performer. His band played a big part in bringing the material across, tho the drums were a bit over-heavy at times.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

"Snug Slacks" is a great song title.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

I couldn't get more than half way through this one - a couple of the widescreen ballads were good, but wacky synthpop is his single worst mode and it was all over this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 09:01 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I'm struggling with a lot of this; much of the first half is jarring, and much of the second half re-treads familiar ground. My keepers: the title track, "No More Tangles", "Magma Arrives", "Disappointing". "Snug Slacks" is fun for a while, too.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 10:48 (eight years ago) link

Tracey Thorn sounds ragged on "Disappointed," no?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

new single is nice, better than anything I can recall from the last LP

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

So ILM doesn't really care for John Grant ? I'm not really convinced by his latest album's all electronic approach. I miss his piano and strings. Still has a great voice though. Has anyone else listened to it ?

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

I tried - also found it underwhelming. First two albums still classic, hope he finds an appealing groove again.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

The title track is amazing but the album bounces back and forth for me. I do have a bit of a hard time with the 'funny voices' approach. He sounds like he's having fun though.

akm, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

Sadly the more fun he's having the worse his music is. Last two albums have been corny as hell.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

True, but, at least there's still something there, unlike, say, Mark Kozelek, who also used to make beautiful music and now does...something different that he apparently finds more fulfilling but no one likes to listen to.

akm, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

I do have a bit of a hard time with the 'funny voices' approach

Same here. It's barely listenable in "Diet Gum" and only tolerable in "Metamorphosis".

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

Well it'll be interesting to see how that plays out live -- seeing him (finally) in two and a half weeks.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

I'm seing him next Monday. It's his first time in Montréal. If he plays "Glacier" I'll be a very happy guy.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

I loved his collaboration with Wrangler that came out under the Creep Show moniker.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

His tracks on the 2014 Hercules & Love Affair album are terrific, extensions of Pale Green Ghosts' coffee house electronica. It's been diminishing returns ever since.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

So the concert was awesome. He really pulls off the new songs well live. The harmonies are great. He also spoke to us in perfect French many times. Added bonus, none other than the ledgendary Budgie is behind the drumkit and I got to speak with him and take pictures after the show.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

Wait, hold the fuck on, that was BUDGIE? How did I not clock that.

I gotta agree with LeRoo, just a wonderful show here in SF last night. "Pale Green Ghosts" got a particularly wonderful arrangement, queasily wonderful dark 80s electronics, and after it he said that reflected "four years of listening to Ministry's "Over the Shoulder" 12"...greatest remix ever." My girlfriend loved how the new album's "Metamorphosis" sounded live, saying it felt absolutely terrifying at the end. The main set closer of "Sensitive New Age Guy," "Glacier" and "Queen of Denmark" was an astounding 1-2-3.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

Yes! PGG was huge and "Metamorphosis" is better live than on the album.

Budgie came down in the club after the show to buy a drink from the bar. When I started talking to him he said he was just taking it to John backstage and would come back to chat, and he actually did! Really nice guy and I was pretty starstruck.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

There's a new track today, apparently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecBpAwovikg

djh, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 09:55 (three years ago) link

One of my favorite albums of the decade.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:21 (three years ago) link

oooh cate le bon produced this new one...fingers crossed it breaks his streak of weirdly lousy albums

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:42 (three years ago) link

"the only boy" is also on this. it sounds really nice. the lyrics are a bit much. it probably shouldn't be ten minutes long.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

I thought this revive was going to be related to the Facebook ad that uses "Black Belt":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ekg56Ji56o

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

beard man gets paid

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

I was gonna mention it in the PSB/Tag Team thread.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

Ha I was going to mention it, too

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

I finally am catching up on the albums after Pale Green Ghosts and just started Love Is Magic and, well... there's pretty much no way the live version of "Metamorphosis" could be worse

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link

he's obviously a brilliant guy and a great singer but my suspicion is he needs just the right collaborators to shield him from his worst instincts...this is why I'm semi hopeful about the new one

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link

I think Colonel Mustard did it in the billiard room / Yeah yeah

I might have to peace out on this

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Have posted this on the Gus Gus thread but worth putting here, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3mwdn0rYjA

djh, Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link


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