"just dance" is great, as i said on this thread earlier, to me because it breaks free of the trappings youd imagine youd find in a synth-pop song in 2008. its synth is huge and identifiable and lyrically it's as graphic and vivid as anything on the radio. "poker face" on the other hand uses nearly the same synth sound as "just dance" and is also pretty lame lyrically, esp. in the chorus
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
it sounds pretty ordinary to me
― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
JD
the one good thing about it is the "i love this record baby" line
― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Poker Face is a pretty decent single. Its just Lady Gaga that I think is a BAD THING FOR MUSIC. Also Xenomania.
Chris Brown's last single was Superhuman fyi
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link
agree totally w/ Surm's last few posts abt that song
― hahaha sorry all you music-hippies (some dude), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm usually not a huge lyrics guy but the whole "I'm fucking blasted; maybe if I keep dancing everything will be okay" narrative trumps "uh, I wanna hump this guy... POKER FACE!"
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
the 1st line in poker face is so good it hurts
― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I actually kinda like this stuff when I hear it on the radio but I don't really listen to the radio all that much so I don't really get hung up on overplay fatigue with this stuff. Its the way its being framed that pisses me off and I suppose its a bit like guys on Vampire Weekend thread frothing about Pitch4k reviews.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link
And yeah, "Poker Face" is different from "Just Dance" in that "JD" is a decent enough song and "PF" is fucking horrible.
^^ I kind of think the opposite
― cortez de esteban (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't mind songs that are barely songs if there's something else about them I find engaging, whether it be the foundational beat, the arrangement, some weird sound effect, or, you know, ANYTHING
exactly, except i think Poker Face actually does have this, in the 'barely qualifying' sense - more so than 'Just Dance' altho that's better in every other department and is carried mainly by vocal qualities and better song structure
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I blame Gwen Stefani for all this BTW
― cortez de esteban (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the CANTREADMY, CANTREADMY bit
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
gwen stefani can be blamed for most things
― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I would buy GS way more as a pop-provocateur than LG
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not Gwen's fault that she can do vacuous self-regard well and others can't!
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
once i bought one of her CD's, i thought it would be a fun thing to do. turned out i was wrong
― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
hollaback girl sounds like it was written by Uncle Kracker
― cortez de esteban (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah well you NEVER buy CDs by any of these people, they are rather blatantly singles artists
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i do love hollaback tho, kind of a lot
― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
good
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
lol curtis
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i would pay $40 to see uncle kracker cover "hollaback girl" while dressed as stefani and dancing w/ the harujuku girls
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I... would not
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd pay $40 not
― da croupier, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I apologize for my attitude on this thread. I've been listening to top 40 radio regularly again for the first time since like 2003 and it's making me cynical
― cortez de esteban (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
so that hardbody brooks & dunn zing was like top 40 roid rage then?
― the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Chuck is OTM regarding her quasi-electroclash schtick (which is kind of what I was getting at re: the overall American Apparel aesthetic here), especially considering her vague aspirations to some kind of performance art (which she talks up incessantly, but which I have yet to see manifest itself in the recorded output).
As for the synths, they sound to me like the pretty standard sounds used throughout trance music for years. Her main trick seems to be to layer a bunch of "supersaw" type chords, big buzzy monsters, and offset them with a slightly different lead -- not sure how to describe it, but kind of hollow, tubular and striated. It's not a bad trick. But I don't think there's anything crazy inventive about her synth work that you couldn't find done with more nuance in Depeche Mode or The Knife. (But I'm not gonna tell Mike what kind of synths he should like; that's just my read on their precedents.)
― pshrbrn, Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
especially considering her vague aspirations to some kind of performance art (which she talks up incessantly, but which I have yet to see manifest itself in the recorded output)
reminds me of someone else...FISCHERSPOONER. Empire Of The Sun making similar worrying noises recently too.
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 19 March 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
ah yes, but fischerspooner have the deitch imprimatur, therefor they are FOR RILLZ!
― pshrbrn, Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought it was kinda funny when Fischerspooner did it, and I'm sure someone's gonna google a quote that proves me wrong in five seconds, but they always came across in interviews as thinking the whole thing was pretty ridiculous and funny too.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
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Love Angel Music Baby is a dope album tho
― reverend bout to change my name to rev peso (The Reverend), Friday, 20 March 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link
This is true.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 20 March 2009 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link
the way she enunciates the d in "he can't read my poker face" is nice
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link
also i'm unsure why the "puh-puh-puh poker" bit confuses ppl so much, i thought there was plenty stuttering happening in music these days
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
this song is like taking over my life right now
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
"confuses" isn't really the right word for the reaction that part gets from people.
― liveblogging 'before i self-destruct' from the moon (some dude), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link
what is it?
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"revulsion"
― Hoos Passansteeno (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link
:(
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link
it revulsions people
― abe being busy (k3vin k.), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link
lazy sry
― abe being busy (k3vin k.), Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link
funny kinda
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link
― Surmounter, Sunday, 22 March 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i gotta say, her performance on idol tonight was kinda awesome
http://t.love.com/200255707
dunno why "poker face" has to have that awful "puh-puh-puh-puh-puh-puh poker face" part in it but oh well
btw i never thought i would like someone if they became MORE like nellie mckay but whaddya know
― strøm thurmond (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 April 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
lol that is the best part
― P is for Pussy (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 2 April 2009 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
judging various parts of "Poker Face" seems like a fools game to me considering they all suck
― prins tuomas (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 April 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
"Poker Face" has pretty much the same problem as the Veronicas' "Untouched" -- big awkward gulf between the melodic chorus and the inane talky verses with cheesy vocal filters. "Untouched" kind of survives that problem because the hook is great, "Poker Face" not so much.
― The-Steen (some dude), Thursday, 2 April 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
"Untouched" also survives because of the frantic energy in the inane talky verses.
― ur an ugly hamster-abusing "girl" or whatever u are, gtfo (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
She's got the #1 single again.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link