michael pisaro, wandelweiser, etc.

http://youtu.be/AtKajbX5ZL4

taylan susam – tombeau (2014)

http://youtu.be/sQHPyMm5ldY

Morton Feldman 'Two Pianos' -- played by John Tilbury and Philip Thomas, June 2014

http://ihatemusic.noquam.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9621

this one's way weird and good. a lot of piano, heavy atmosphere and crisp production.

re: the piano on Schwarze Riesenfalter.. i'm catching vibes of Frederic Rzewski, Erik Satie, a bit of Feldman, and hints of George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue." Maybe that's a stretch.

It took a while but Schwarze Riesenfalter really grew on me over the past week. The other two Erstwhile releases were much more immediate, particularly the La Casa/Unami. And are we using this thread to talk about modern classical as well as other electroacoustic/eai associated with the scene? Didn't even realize this thread existed (though, I'm still a fairly new user).

I was really surprised by the new Glistening Examples release with Meyers & Lescalleet. I think Lescalleet's TIWID series find him honing his craft but at the same time, it all sounds very similar and I find myself getting a bit tired of them rather quickly. I still enjoy them whenever I put them on though. As of right now, I'm most excited to hear the Rie Nakajima LP on Consumer Waste. Waiting for copies to show up at Winds Measure though since I live in the states.

I supposed anything goes, really. I started posting things Tilbury, or Pisaro-related in this thread, and these are still more sort of quiet musics. There's an Erstwhile thread, but I figured since Pisaro performs on the latest one, then why not. I'm not sure I'd call what Lambkin or Pisaro are doing "EAI," necessarily. their processes are not divulged, but the results certainly do not sound improvised.

Oh I wasn't implying that the record was EAI by any means, was just wondering if we were also talking about that stuff here. Didn't know there was an Erstwhile thread though either.

Have you heard the self-titled Jurg Frey album released on Musiques Suisses from last year? It's phenomenal. I tend to think Frey is hit or miss-in the past couple years I liked Pianist, Alone and Dedalus but didn't like II and Cantor Quartets-but this new one is really in my wheelhouse. The whole record's relatively melodic and the final track especially is a beauty.

I've been 'seeking for it with no results.. The samples on the page are pretty nice, it's a pricey item though.

http://youtu.be/LpJG3sw5HSA

Jürg Frey: Paysage pour Gustave Roud

it's closer to sounding like this piece than most the Frey that I've heard.. I really like his track on the Dedalus (Potlatch) disk, though.

Lovely vid. It reminds that I should check out more of Stefan Thut's works. His Two Strings And Boxes album with Johnny Chang a couple years ago surprised me. Seems like it's overlooked from what I've seen.

I can share the Frey album with you if you're interested, not a big deal.

This might be one of the few times I've been compelled to shell out upwards of $40 for a cd.. listening to the Frey now, a second time through. Very sublime, the melodic activity is most welcome.

https://youtu.be/oJPUjqQuYH8

you can cop the musiques suisses disk thru Erstdist now, though it's gonna be difficult to choose between it and this new recording on AT..

surprised there's little to no discussion of Frey on ILM. it's a shame

http://www.wandelweiser.de/_e-w-records/_ewr-catalogue/ewr1501.html

on a side note, this is one of the nicest things i've heard in a while... the audio sample is a good representation. it actually feels like the barometric pressure drops in the room, when i put this cd on.

https://youtu.be/YUwq63OIPtk

one of the fine cuts from lost daylight.. the original recording doesn't contain any of these incidental sounds (birds chirping etc.)

The Fraufraulein album on Another Timbre is one of my favorites this year.

likewise! i had just put it on actually... funny bit of synchronicity there. Had a near-transcendent experience listening to it one night, about a month back. It's very painting-like, rife with imagery.

Got a bit carried away, posting here today, but I had to chime in as it's a definite favorite. The AT youtube excerpt is not a very good indication of the depth of it.

I'm sorta tiring of Another Timbre's uniform packaging, even though it's a clean look. It recalls the Tzadik series from the 90s, which was a bit of a repellent.

SImon Reynell (Another Timbre guy) has said countless times that he doesn't care at all about packaging (paraphrasing).

I am out of those Frey Musiques Suisses discs again at ErstDist, but will try to get another batch.

the actual cover images are nice.. it's the general layout that almost projects a same-y ness on the music, not just the packaging. of course it's a terrible generalisation, and i don't own many AT releases. i completely forgot that "Lost Daylight" is on AT, so maybe the uniform gatefold is a good thing.. i suppose i just miss jewel cases.

Picked up the Crane double cd the other day (after sbody mentioned it on another ilx thread), then promptly ordered the Wandelweiser box.
This stuff really scratches an itch for an old David Sylvian, Morton Feldman junkie. So good.

https://youtu.be/RuZwzoj85C0

Cellist Oliver Coates performs 'Raimondas Rumsas' by Laurence Crane

oh man that's incredible.
super excited for the new AT releases. the Jurg Frey sounds like it's gonna be one of his best and the Saunders should be good too (performed by Apartment House who did the Laurence Crane album).

http://www.anothertimbre.com/freygrizzana.html

interesting interview w/Frey, fairly recent. haven't really got my head around Grizzana yet.. it's large and varied. not as immediately "lush" as the Musiques Suisses album.

http://www.bangthebore.org/archives/5982

also found this interesting, interview w/Joe Panzner. just published yesterday. recently put on dystonia duos, it's great.

yeah, i listened to it (the crane 2-disc) this morning, would be good for ambient hedz i think; there were some definitely tilburyish moments

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it reminds me of the Colleen album Les Ondes Silencieuses.. seems like the Crane double album would appeal to people that are into Rachel's, A Winged Victory for the Sullen, Stars of the Lid.. stuff like that. Though maybe not as superficially lush or expressive, the Crane stuff feels more timeless and interesting.

lol i just added immortal's 'pure holocaust' and 'sons of northern darkness' to my ipod and it mixed up their artwork with the cover of 'wandelweiser und so weiter'

https://youtu.be/B6xEcdSpNjc

Joseph Kudirka - Beauty and Industry -- sort of a Feldman vibe, the intermittent percussion has a really nice quality.

re joseph kudirka :
'21st century music' is gorgeous

really dig the 'wyoming snow' versions... passed on the Kudirka album for circles and landscapes by Jurg Frey, it's perfect.

new jurg frey on wandelweiser "string quartet no 3 / unhorbare zeit" is his best imo.

i have to spend some time with the wandelweiser release. it's tough keeping up with, or maintaining interest in all of his recent output, a lot of it string-based music.. with Grizzana (most visible/accessible) and other small label releases which are harder to track down. Circles and Landscapes has a really nice tone about it.. i do like philip thomas' (piano) playing.

just recently heard this joseph clayton mills piece, the music is great. too bad it's such a limited pressing (100)

http://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/post/126440900914/joseph-clayton-millssifr-suppedaneum

yeah i immediately bought the two jc mills releases. wonderful stuff.

http://www.anothertimbre.com/kudirkascores.html

some insight into 'Beauty and Industry' (Kudirka)

Another Timbre has been on fire lately.

In addition to the Frey and Kudirka, the Klaus Filip & Leonell Kaplan is super great. On a completely different tip.

This doesn't seem to happen too frequently, but... Another Timbre-related performance
in Boston coming up. Piece by Magnus Granberg.
Not missing this.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1027955217270591/

http://www.anothertimbre.com/linda_cs_dirtroad.html

https://soundcloud.com/lcsmith-2

lovely stuff here

new Pisaro 3XCD of piano music (played by Reinier van Houdt) on Erstwhile Records... part of it reminded me of Loren Connors, some Feldman, a couple instances of Pisaro revisited, other tracks difficult to describe. melancholy vibes throughout, there are subtle 'additional' sounds and effects woven into some of the tracks, barely noticeable

http://www.wandelweiser.de/_e-w-records/bilder/ewr1709.jpg

this is beautiful

http://www.wandelweiser.de/_e-w-records/_ewr-catalogue/ewr1709.html

yes, it is.

jürg frey

2017: https://erstwhilerecords.bandcamp.com/album/l-me-est-sans-retenue-i
2018: https://elsewheremusic.bandcamp.com/album/120-pieces-of-sound

120 pieces must be a very different thing to hear live, on any recording everything you listen to pretty much has an implicit 'everything i want whenever i want it' rider attached but the pauses in the tones would make that thought hard to entertain

still fond of 'l'ame est sans retenue' lately

https://www.toneglow.net/reviews/2017/11/16/jurg-frey-lame-est-sans-retenue-i

I'm sure you have seen it but just in case not, Yuko wrote about the series also, before she ended up starting elsewhere and putting out #2.

http://surround.noquam.com/borders-disappear/

no! great pictures!!

https://michaelpisaro.bandcamp.com/album/nature-denatured-and-found-again

Musicians

Antoine Beuger (flute)
Jürg Frey (clarinet)
Marcus Kaiser (cello)
Radu Malfatti (trombone)
André Möller (electric guitar)
Kathryn Gleasman Pisaro (oboe/english horn)

composition, field recording, sine tones, noise, mixing, mastering by Michael Pisaro

based on the ‘flussaufwärtstreiben’ project
created by Joachim Eckl, Marcus Kaiser and Michael Pisaro

Flussaufwärtstreiben installation conceived and realized by Joachim Eckl, Marcus Kaiser and Michael Pisaro (2011-2015) and produced by heim.art.
melodic fragments embedded within the installation are drawn from
Antoine Beuger’s melody collection “auch da.”

this set is great and the physical presentation is really nice too. bit spendy but hey

yep it's lovely. I need to do some closer listening but it's similar to continuum unbound in sound and scope and especially in the way that the field recordings are essential. I especially like the second disc so far.

just wanted to chime in (wasn't aware it had been mentioned already) about Denatured and Found Again... it's a well-engaging (and long-ish) series of field recordings, blended with electro-acoustic, compositional elements. it's my favorite Pisaro release in quite a while

also, l'ame est sans retenue I (Jürg Frey) is really great passive listening material. Been playing it on the stereo in an adjacent room for the last few weeks. it's maddening to actively listen to ('waiting' for sound events), but when i'm not focused on it, it's lulling, and there's loads of subtle detail. I'd like to call it ambient (it's not), but it works great as ambient sound art. It can sound like ocean surf crashing (intermittently), or the sounds of jet airplanes in the sky, or like a distant freeway/din of the outdoors--with vague, incidental, tonal elements (very subtle, or pronounced, but nearly impossible to anticipate) ... each of the five discs work well for repeated listening.

These two releases work quite well (simultaneously, w/add'l, low volume, minimal / drone-type ambiance) to simulate a sort of relaxing, 'inclement weather' environment indoors.. i'd been going on two weeks of marked (cold turkey) Benzo- withdrawal (a fucking nightmare), and i was using these recordings to calm my nerves, even when (i don't know) [if] they're not intended to be used as ambient music. The Tone Glow review is linked above, but here's a direct Bandcamp link - https://erstwhilerecords.bandcamp.com/album/l-me-est-sans-retenue-i

I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on these recordings!

yeah, i like that frey too

i have been in the same listening situation, or constellation of listening situations, for many years now, and while i can get a certain amount of mileage out of recordings like these here and there, i always feel a little let down at not being able to really audition them the way i imagine i ought to—quiet room, big stereo, environing sound

the payoffs from waiting for the sound events on the frey, and on plenty of the others (similar stop-start structures on the new pisaro sometimes), are certainly weird. you wait and get used to waiting and forget that you're waiting; eventually things flip and the silent stretches feel like surprises, like 'oh yeah i forgot sometimes it's not ging'; sometimes they remind you that you were listening to something else in the first place, after you blanked it out.

it's been a while. load of remarkable events, releases, and pieces of writing (Tone Glow online, etc.) have transpired during the last ~four years. feel as if i've been clobbered by work and life, haven't been keeping up much with these sorts of things. labels Erstwhile & Elsewhere (their catalogues are up on bandcamp) have been putting out albums at a steady rate... as well as Another Timbre (of course)

Gondolas, by Graham Lambkin & James Rushford (on Erstwhile) is one of the freshest, rawest things i've listened to in a while. TOP (erst 093) sounds wicked on the hi-fi, as well. but, re: wandelweiser, Eva-Maria Houben's ensemble works, played by ordinary affects (along with E-MH), has remained my favorite release on the edition wandelweiser label. haven't kept up with more recent releases on EWR, though. the Houben disc (disc one, EWR 1904) is just perfect. it's tonal, spacious, and quite unhurried (almost still) ..yet it's massive-sounding (on a proper stereo), and enveloping. check out the samples: https://www.wandelweiser.de/_e-w-records/_ewr-catalogue/ewr1904-05.html

Germaine Sijstermans' Betula (elsewhere 023-2) is similar, though it's less porous (more sustained sounds) and very understated. i've had the album for several months and i'm still hearing new sounds, timbres, and events (attack transients, etc.) with new listens. it's v smooth, sort of muted, and kaleidoscopic.

*that have transpired

Someone dumped the Jurg Frey collection on Dusty Groove recently