Pixar to Disney: Drop Dead

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I saw snippets of the unfinished movie at Disney World maybe a year or so before it was released and it looked completely wretched. Like sub-direct-to-video animation. So I'd say that's a fair guess.

It's A Living! (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 November 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

some anecdotal info here

http://wagthemovie.net/2012/04/21/tangled-the-most-expensive-animated-film-ever-made-part-2/

i'm not super informed about how they do accounting in animation, but it seems possible that if there was some experimental tech they were never going to use on another film, it could have been expensed entirely on the budget for this, rather than amortized over several

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

admittedly i have no idea how CGI animation actually works, but i've wondered if rapunzel being so expensive explains why nearly every female character since then vaguely resembles her. like they're just tweaking a preexisting model or something.

the dreaded Laramie (reddening), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

i think that's more just brand consistency than expense cutting. disney characters have historically shared features.

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

though it'd be awesome to learn Dreamworks saves money by putting the same smirk on different animals

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

They have an algorithm for attitude.

for more fun visit www.combos.com (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

croup otm i think

Nhex, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

Didn't know all the hubbub about Tangled, I should get around to that one.

Nhex, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

Big Hero 6 was excellent. I get the gripes up above but it was really entertaining. And yeah, Feast was wonderful, one of the best shorts before an animated film I've seen in years.

akm, Saturday, 29 November 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link

big hero was some tedious shit basically a really advanced scooby doo ep Imo.

chemical aioli (Hunt3r), Saturday, 29 November 2014 05:18 (nine years ago) link

I have a low bar for animated entertainment.

akm, Saturday, 29 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

a really advanced scooby doo ep

not a bad thing

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

We got that already, though. http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38125000/jpg/_38125568_scooby_doo_300b.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

princess and the frog was as good as any disney 90s

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

music was snazzy in that one, big step above frozen

dr bronner's new and improved peppermint (soda), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

princess frog animation and story also step up for disney. visually my favoutire disney movie.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Wow, I really didn't like that one. I especially hated that they made a big deal about finally having an African-American princess, then they immediately turn her into a frog for the duration. Then at the end, the rich white girl/family swoops in and saves the day. "Here's some money, follow your dream!" Iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

nah you've got wrong end of stick with the ending, the morals were great, about working hard against entitlement, character writing was great, to look at the best disney film for decades.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

But isn't that how it ends? The rich white family just gives her a pile of money?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Something else I agree w rt about wtf.

I dont recall white girl giving her a bunch of money at the end and that isnt mentioned in the wiki synopsis

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 November 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link

She marries the prince, they buy the restaurant

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 November 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link

"But isn't that how it ends? The rich white family just gives her a pile of money?

― Josh in Chicago"

No, it's not.

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 29 November 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

Isn't there something with money from the rich white family?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, her childhood friend Charlotte gives her the money.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link

her friend hires her to cater a party at the start of the movie, and that's the last chunk of money she needs after years of saving. then the realtors tell her someone else is offering more money, so she can't have the place after all, but at the end of the movie she goes back with a talking jazz alligator and frightens them into accepting the original price.

the dreaded Laramie (reddening), Sunday, 30 November 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link

Deus ex talking jazz alligator.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

Anyway, point stands that the first African-American princess is reduced to a frog for most of the movie. Tiana might be the only of the recent princesses, save perhaps Pocahontas, whose presence at Disney World last month was limited exclusively to a cameo on the parade. And I'm not even sure I saw her there.

I didn't think this one was bad, actually, just sort of a missed opportunity. Save for Keith David, who should voice every villain.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link

I don't know what you're talking about with the white money thing, I think that' in your head. She worked hard for all the money - that was the entire point of the movie. The frog point is just stupid, sorry mate. It's a cartoon about animals and turning into a frog, if you didn't know she was black still, then, sorry about that.

Raccoon Tanuki, Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

i cannot tell if this frog is black

akm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

I just meant that after making a point of finally having a princess (or even a lead) who was visibly black, they waste no time turning her into a frog.

Tiana has a white childhood best friend who is filthy rich, with a rich dad (I believe actually named Big Daddy). Charlotte, her friend, the rich southern belle, is the one who hires her to bake or cater. At the end, I think, the frog prince makes her promise to give money to Tiana. That's what was confusing me (having not seen it for a while).

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 November 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MC3XuMvsDI

ugh!

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link

yeah they're done

Number None, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

i hope everybody likes thinkpieces about gender stereotyping because come july we are IN FOR IT.

the dreaded Laramie (reddening), Thursday, 11 December 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

this doesn't look good at all. maybe they'll surprise.

akm, Thursday, 11 December 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gn6IfWXPbk

poxy fülvous (abanana), Thursday, 11 December 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link

exactly

Nhex, Thursday, 11 December 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link

Ffffuuuuuck that looks terrible

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 December 2014 07:35 (nine years ago) link

Men like sport and women like nagging.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link

so pixar have made an unauthorised version of the beano's numskulls strip?

http://www.beano.com/media/1371128/93numskullslogo_500x399.jpg

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:20 (nine years ago) link

Eh I don't want to judge too harshly on such a small clip, and my residual affection for Pixar is still enourmous, but little mind people aside it looks to have a pretty banal storyline.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:31 (nine years ago) link

But I'd like it to be good, I really would.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link

So basically...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE489rs0fPA

tsrobodo, Thursday, 11 December 2014 11:50 (nine years ago) link

i like the calvin+hobbes strip with all the tiny calvins and the burt reynolds sperm commander section in everything you always wanted to know about sex but reddening otm

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 11 December 2014 12:24 (nine years ago) link

Clearly I am blind

tsrobodo, Thursday, 11 December 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link

i hope everybody likes thinkpieces about gender stereotyping because come july we are IN FOR IT.

― the dreaded Laramie (reddening), Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Men like sport and women like nagging.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:12 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't think most people will be bothered by this kind of thing. Like I'm sure everyone else in my office would go "oh COME ON" at these criticisms because they rely on this kind of shit for their own sense of humor. It's the "hahaha soooo truuue" kind of humor they're comfortable with, it's written into their brains and reinforced by hallmark card jokes, words written on snarky novelty items, and commercials featuring women rolling their eyes at dopey husbands.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

i mean "sports sports sports toilet seat up oh no!! anniversary :/" is so broadly sitcom-ish to the point of self-parody but pixar has a tendency for that type of stuff and they're the only people on earth still gainfully employing tim allen so i guess it isn't too surprising

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

also does NO ONE remember cranium command come on now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwLkM0iGE0

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

People are fucking boring. Pixar know$.

Evan, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Would not be at all surprised to learn that this was originally pitched as a Cranium Command film.

Monarch of the Murder Chair (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

"sports sports sports toilet seat up oh no!! anniversary :/"

lol well done

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link


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