Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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for those of you not in the know, the author of that piece has aspirations to be next leader of the Conservative party and then Prime Minister thru a carefully developed "loveable eccentric of the people" shtick

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

where are the fedoras coming out to share their devastating crying fits? fedoras usually don't come with cartoon babes on them! they're worn with total moral innocence! i feel weird saying that

o lol i guess the thing no one's mentioning is that he was crying guilt tears not "i've been abused" tears

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

I watched that clip of Dr Taylor’s apology – at the moment of his supreme professional triumph – and I felt the red mist come down. It was like something from the show trials of Stalin, or from the sobbing testimony of the enemies of Kim Il-sung, before they were taken away and shot. It was like a scene from Mao’s cultural revolution when weeping intellectuals were forced to confess their crimes against the people.

I mean, on the one hand this is sort of true in the broadest, most-credibility-stretching way but on the other hand, did you not actually see the shirt in question?

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

As for the design of the garment, I have studied it as closely as the photos will allow, and I can’t see what all the fuss is about. I suppose there are women with long flowing hair and a certain amount of décolletage. But let’s not mince our words: there are no nipples; there are no buttocks; there is not even an exposed midriff, as far as I can see.

anonanon, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

question answered DJP

anonanon, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

I think his critics should go to the National Gallery and look at the Rokeby Venus by Velázquez. Or look at the stuff by Rubens. Are we saying that these glorious images should be torn from the walls?

QED

anonanon, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

he's playing to his core constituency in its core paper, the message is probably about rowing back a ways from David Cameron's perceived political correctness, just letting the faithful know there'll be none of this SJW shit once Boris is in charge

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

This is clearly political correctness gone mad -- it used to be perfectly acceptable, normal and commonplace to wear sexy lady print shirts on national television.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

no clam?

no clam.

goole, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

there are no nipples; there are no buttocks

^new slogan

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

There must be room in our world for eccentricity, even if it offends the prudes, and room for the vague other-worldliness that often goes with genius. Dr Taylor deserves the applause of our country, and those who bash him should hang their own heads and apologise.

pro tip: he's not really talking about Taylor at the end here

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

It’s the hypocrisy of it all that irritates me. Here is Kim Kardashian – a heroine and idol to some members of my family – deciding to bust out all over the place, and good for her. No one seeks to engulf her in a tweetstorm of rage. But why is she held to be noble and pure, while Dr Taylor is attacked for being vulgar and tasteless?

lol come on now, at least try with your trolling

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

I'm all in favor of a casual workplace and wearing clothing that you feel comfortable in, but jesus christ have some decorum if you're going to be on tv

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

Kim Kardashian didn't show up naked and oiled to give a press conference about space exploration, but that would be an interesting world

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

kim all about exploring dat moon

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

folks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

Jack Thompson LOL

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2wM38aCAAAlnyX.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

jesus jones what a fucking creep

this things i believe (art), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

Cosplay at being an adult/grant moe is sooooooooooooo fucking otm, thank you this thread, thinking of all such dudes like this from now on

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

whyIamSObald.jpg

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link

Oh shit is that J Tunney on the left

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

Yep

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link

Dammit: https://twitter.com/justinetunney/status/521768604346642432

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link

those three are all terrible people. terrible.

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 10:19 (nine years ago) link

they're like the kevin smith version of fox news.

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link

C) Rising Tension: in addition to being a cynical faux-representative of women, Sarkeesian and her fellow travellers infiltrate and destroy the movements they attach themselves to (this is where we introduce J******* T***** and 0ccupy W4llstreet).

D) Twist: the actions of these SJWs are so insanely destructive and self-defeating that it’s hard to believe that they exist… that's because they are insane.

oh so this is not "women be crazy, just like infiltrating 0ccupy-destroyer JT!" as I originally read it but actually "women be crazy, here is level-headed bullshit detector JT with the latest! J, tell us how everyone in 0ccupy except you is destroying the movement."

that's nice

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 10:30 (nine years ago) link

breaking! davis aurini posts admiring interview with noted rabid anti-videogame campaigner and disbarred lawyer jack thompson, claims 'reporting on him has been one-sided'!

gamergaters confused as their former worst enemy speaks out against anita sarkeesian!

'If Jack Thompson was really with #GamerGate that would show just how inclusive we are'!

here's a storify following the whole sorry affair (from which i also learned that a prominent gamergater goes by @farttocontinue): https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-supports-jack-thompson

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link

In reference to picture above:

Whar iz cül skulz?

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B20LW_uCIAEoAd0.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

why does her skin colour and hair colour change after she dunks the girl in the keg?

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

that's supposed to be a third character, he just draws them all to look the same

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

was thinking it was some sort of pokeman situation

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

Kind of amazing how eagerly picked-upon nerds want to imagine themselves deploying the tactics of high school bullies. And by "amazing" I guess I mean "not really surprising at all."

Unless that comic's a parody...I really can't tell.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

also funny to me b/c "Wrathborne" was the name of the evil principal in my own high-school era comic

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

i cannot tell what point that strip is trying to make

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link

Also what is she being dunked in, a barrel of water?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

These guys love using imaginary woman sockpuppets to support their beliefs. Of course they're already used to pretending socks are real women.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

lol can't even be bothered to spell #notyourshield properly

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

The shield thing still makes no sense to me. If gamergaters are the ones being attacked, wouldn't the women and people of minority status they're claiming to represent be their weapon, not their shield?

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

I know this is completely trivial and not really an issue to anyone but me, but it still bugs me.

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

covered upthread, but yeah

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

i think the tortured logic might be that nefarious white male sjws are using women and people of colour as THEIR shields by claiming to be offended by shitty representations of women and people of colour in videogames, when actually guys some of them love that stuff honest

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

yeah they were really looking for #notyourstrawman

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

#you'reOURshieldgetoverhere(scorpionvoice)

So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

I don't think they believe white male SJWs are behind it all though -- I mean there's no way that they don't think women are the ultimate villains here

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

to these people racism and sexism don't actually exist, they're just "-isms" to deflect "criticism"
so naturally any non-minority SJW is just using all minorities are a "shield" to "stifle" "criticism" when they point out the painfully obvious sexism and racism in video games
sorry i'm out of scare quotes

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

xp #not all women, just the evil SJW, the deluded ones on the #gg are A-OK

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

I think it's more like using *women* as a *shield* for *feminazis* or whatever -- man, it really doesn't make sense

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

claims of racism aren't valid criticisms, though. those are just sjw issues.

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link


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