Sopranos

Series now on Bluray. For "The Happy Wanderer":

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/17/7234477/sopranos-streaming-one-episode

http://www.hitfix.com/the-dartboard/dont-stop-believing-david-chase-analyzes-the-final-scene-of-the-sopranos

Or, wait, this link's better:
http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1502-Spring-2015/Shot-to-Remember-The-Sopranos.aspx

i have a theory
that david chase didn't intend the ending to be ambiguous but the public outcry/confusion made him butthurt and reticent about it

Chase basically confirms that huge blog post about it saying Tony got shot.

Nah, he's saying that it's one reading of it, and def one reading he intended. I don't think that many people have said that there was nothing menacing about Members Only Guy, or that it wasn't intended to remind of us what Bobby said in Soprano Home Movies about not hearing the final bullet.

Either way, it's a crappy ending. Having two readings of something doesn't really matter when neither reading is interesting.

It's one of the best-edited TV sequences ever.

I love the ending

set the standard for how to conclude a long-running series imo

Ending has really grown on me. I was pretty ambivalent when I first saw it.

I like that his goal w/ the final scene was to evoke a feeling rather than to provide some narrative explanation

There's only 3 minutes left in the episode! Why is nothing ~happening~?? Why is Meadow taking SO LONG to park her car??? Who is that dude in the jacket???? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!?!?

he's either going to be shot Then or SOMEDAY or expecting it FOREVER. What's ambiguous?

we will all be shot one day. shot right in the heart by death's death gun. but the symbolism of the onion rings.

the circle of badabing

did you end up watching the whole series, Dr.?

r u crazy? no, left off a few months ago like, 4 eps in s2. I DO NOT bingewatch.

you people... "watch all Sopranos, watch all Mad Men, watch all The Wire, watch all The Americans," just no more art films that fly in and out of theaters for the rest of your life.

that david chase didn't intend the ending to be ambiguous but the public outcry/confusion made him butthurt and reticent about it

― slam dunk, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:01 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like it

you people... "watch all Sopranos, watch all Mad Men, watch all The Wire, watch all The Americans," just no more art films that fly in and out of theaters for the rest of your life.

it's as if the mediums of television and film are... approached and delivered differently.

time, dude. not enough.

Most of these shows aren't running concurrently so it's basically an hour a week. If you are playing catch up it's definitely more daunting.

no one should peer pressure someone else into binge watching its totally unhealthy lol

that david chase didn't intend the ending to be ambiguous but the public outcry/confusion made him butthurt and reticent about it

― slam dunk, Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:01 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like it

― lag∞n, Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:43 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

that said i don't think it takes away from the ending which is the most memorable & best of the major series i can think of ... i mean a montage showing what happens to all the characters set to a country-rock song or w/e a la The Wire is cool & all but

as much as i do love the ending i kind of wanted to see tony face down in a plate of linguini tbh

They should've started the season off with that, Meadow going OMGWHAT HAPPENED? And Carmella saying, well, it all started right around the time Vito came out of the closet-- then FLASHBACK

would have been cool if tony woke up and the entire series was a dream

W tony in bed next to bob newhart

Finding the posters on Meadow's wall rather surprising. Ulver and GVSB, didn't think she was 'alternative' and didn't think they were mainstream so are they consciously part of her character or were the set creators just sticking up things arbitrarily/randomly?

THere's a scene where Janice gets out of her car outside her mother's house after Meadow's party where you hear the music she's been listening to in the car. It is a weird yodeling thing that sounds like it might be Tim Buckley's Jungle Fire or possibly something by Leon Thomas, anybody got any idea what it is or if it is that? It's just a small snippet but it does sound like that Jungle Fire snippet

when tony and carm visit meadow's college apartment the shins are playing in the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZXQMtmd3A

Frederik B so bad itt

I just finished the O.J. mini-series, and found out that the guy who played Fred Goldman--uncanny lookalike, but not a good performance--was Joseph Siravo, "Johnny Boy Soprano" in five episodes. Drawing a blank.

I still dislike the ending. + I was rewatching the first season of OZ last week, and it's honestly more audacious and interesting than most of Sopranos.

haha, I watched quite a bit of "Oz" and yer insane.

the audacity of shankings

Obama sequel

I just finished the O.J. mini-series, and found out that the guy who played Fred Goldman--uncanny lookalike, but not a good performance--was Joseph Siravo, "Johnny Boy Soprano" in five episodes. Drawing a blank.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:15 PM (four days ago)

wait, you don't remember tony's DAD?

Thanks. Definitely remember the dad, just not the name. (I shouldn't have said "uncanny lookalike," by the way; what I meant was, uncanny makeup job.)

haha, I watched quite a bit of "Oz" and yer insane.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), 3. august 2017 02:20 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can't really honestly say that Oz > Sopranos, but it's a really fun version of what a 'prestige' television show could be, all weird visuals and sex and death. There are ways that Sopranos became the prestige template, which, looking back, seem a bit unfortunate to me. David Chase always had a chip on his shoulder about doing 'tv' and really wanted to do a film, but his taste in film seems pretty boring and vanilla, pretty boring nineties indie stuff. The irony is that it was Tom Fontana, not Chase, who ended up having a real influence on modern cinema, as Lars von Trier has admitted being very influenced by Homicide in his nineties stuff like Dogme, which of course then was hugely influential on a bunch of stuff.

I just think today, with peak tv and hundreds and hundreds of tv shows, every success has so many imitators that it's kinda fun to see stuff that people don't really bother making anymore. I miss shows like Oz :( Even though something like Orange is the New Black is probably a better show as well, strictly speaking.

BAD INFLUENCE

Orange is the new black is awful though

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/sopranos-movie-prequel-david-chase-1202721680/

Clearly the lead characters figure to be Tony's parents, Junior, child Tony, and related associates, ie not even the actors who played them in the '60s episodes of the series (cuz they're too old).

My brother made the same observation - I'd forgotten there were flashback scenes tbh

i'm slowly watching this for the first time, i'm early in season 2 now. what is the name of the character who is part of the gang who looks like chevy chase? i feel like he's there and they never say his name and he just hangs out looking like chevy chase

this dude:

https://i.imgur.com/FwUrkqW.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Curto

uh but maybe don't read all that (spoilers)