Fringe (new JJ Abrams show) : Mad scientist, flesh eating virus, a cow and talks with the dead

So you're the one who wanted to know about the Super Soldiers

I don't remember how/if it all tied together it the end though, in X-Files. I may have to rewatch the whole ten seasons again one day, I guess. I hope Fringe takes the story in fewer unresolved directions :-/

lol xp

I think there are a couple threads that don't quite make sense due to change in plot direction, but it wraps up pretty well. It's a story about family, in the end, which is kind of where it starts going by the point you're at.

It's funny how everybody in the Fringe team seems to have forgotten about the talking to the dead thing, that could have helped them solve quite a lot of their cases imho.

... and how is there only one alternate universe, after Walter explains how it splits up with each decision we make, there surely must be an infinite number of them? I know, I know, don't question, just watch.

pretty sure there are more than one. That just happened to be the one Walter snatched a Peter from.

and it fucked up the border between the two

(SPOILERS)
there has to be a third they collided with where Walter and Peter time travelled and hid the machine in the past

I think there are about a half-dozen universes explored during the show, but a lot of them are in the last couple of seasons? reallyw as a good show, on balance kinda wish i could go back and watch it again for the first time. season 3 and 5 i think especially. walternate was so great.

Just starting season 5. Seasons 3 & 4 were really really great, but now I'm surprised at not caring about 2036 dystopian blade runner chinatown underworld resistance zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I'm about 15 minutes into the first episode and I just switched it off. Not sure I even want to see the rest.

It's not worth it, no. Consider how bad everything Kurtzman & Orci do is, it's amazing they pulled off season 3. And season 4 could have been good if the writers didn't have to work with that stupid cliffhanger.

given any investment in the rest of the series, i thought season 5 ended up wrapping up things ok, all told. it does end up drawing you in within a few episodes.

About halfway through S1, I hope Walter remains this awesome

He does!

Easily the best character on the show

otm

I was thinking recently about a certain issue of the show but don't dare discuss while milo's watching it.

Spoil away, I was the kid who read the last pages of a book first.

cool, here you go:

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Which one's Charlie and which one's Algernon?

Oh I was just going to remark on how we all hated Fauxlive at first, but then she became so much better because we found out how boring Olivia was.

Ha I just remember Oleonardia Nimoy

Remembered

Fauxlivia's bangs 4 eva

oh wow, didn't realize that my #1 celeb crush (Ari Graynor) was Olivia's sister until the Evil Spam Popup episode.

I'm having my own oh wow btw - THIS guy

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is NOT the same as this guy (from Taken, the Spielberg mini series)

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second guy is the 4400 guy right?

and first guy is Human Target?

2 x yes

Did they ever have any accidents with those giant letters? Would think you might hear about them falling on someone in a bizarre show related accident.

Just watched things through from series 3, which means I saw half of that season and the next two for the first time.
Season 5 does look a bit tacked on and might have been better as being something else. It's not as execrable as I've seen it made out, not quite but I don't think it's where i'd want to leave the series.

Gone back to watching the first 2 seasons since I haven't seen them since around 2008, or whenever I managed to get hold of them. & certainly never saw them on a full sized tv since I was using a portable for a long period.
Seeing weird echoes after seeing the later stuff first. Wondering if they had thought about the later usage of ideas as part of the development of earlier ones or if they were takes on things that came to them later.

Fringe almost refreshingly seemed like a show where they had not really thought things out

Except that the final season fell a bit into the Lost trap of probably being some idea JJ Abrams came up with when they were writing the show bible, and the show runners felt they had to stick to it or face the "OMG are they just making this up as they go along!" fan reaction.

I just watched an extra thing presumably from the dvd for season 5 where they talked about trying to make sure there was some level of feasible science behind ideas in the show.

Also saw another where they were talking about maybe doing a film in a couple of years, which I don't think I've heard anything about.

& can think about at least one great glitch in the thinking at the end of the series that would be very central to the whole story but better not go into that if other people haven't got that far yet. Probably find out it's already been talked about at the time of the tv showing though.

you should talk about it--just say "Spoiler Alert for Show that Ended Years Ago" at the beginning

OK, spoiler alert.

Whence Peter if they've just erased the situation that allowed Peter to be saved from drowning. & therefore there was never a September?
Or is it that with no September there was no September accidentally preventing Walternate from saving his son, in which case Walter presumably wouldn't have taken him over to the main Earth in the first place. September was about the first Observer to arrive, not sure exactly what happened in 1987. & I didn't notice anything saving the Earth 1 Peter
subsequently the point they looped back to at the end of the series was not one they could have got to was it?

that's an interesting question. I think itt we had given up on trying to follow the time logic as it seemed the show had its own idea of causation and whether events in the past caused by people traveling back from the future would still have happened if those future people never traveled back...

Aspirin <3

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I just found out that when Olivia's lover is a see through catatonic in the early episodes it's actually the genuine actor. Would've thought they 'd just use a dummy. Surprised by that

I've been copying Fringe episodes to my media center computer and was skimming through them to make sure I had them labeled correctly when I had to pause, because wait, is that a future princess of England shooting a guy in the chest?!

I'd completely forgotten she has a brief appearance in this series

LSD MILF, yes?

'do you still like bacon?'

<music swells>

'i love bacon'

On recommendation of hearing this show is really out there and good I started watching the pilot. OK so I kind of like it, but also, it is, for lack of a better word, SO NETWORK -- like, just lots of people looking gravely at other people and saying "I want them out of here -- NOW" and "There isn't much time" and "Will it work?" "It has to" and shots of a dude in a mental hospital facing away from the camera and dramatically turning to face the viewer and etc. etc. Like fundamentally the show is not that weird and I want to be weird. Is it all like that and I just have to accept it? Or is there a place in the run I can pick it up where it gets weird and "how was this actually on TV?" That's what I want.

Walter at his best has some good out there-ness (tamped down after the first season and a half, though) but overall it's less out there than the X-Files at their best.

The show kind of infamously takes most of the first season before it breaks from the sub X Files stuff. But when it gets good, it is thrilling and, and at its best, heartbreakingly beautiful.

the longer it goes the less networky it becomes

like even Hannibal started as monster of the week, Bones-ian team of weirdos in the lab

i think it’s just what shows had to do to get dumb studio execs to give them a deal

I really loved this, bought the bluray box set, but still never managed to finish the last season (didn't care anymore), so I don't know how it all ends. I'm going to soldier on with the whole thing, one day. maybe.

haha, I even said it here in this thread 8 years ago - 15 minutes into the first episode of the last season I stopped watching.

So do I need to go through the whole first season to get it or can I start with S2E1 or at some other point?

suck it up & do the work! imo

jk do what u want but its not like s1 is bad. there are far worse things than formulaic ffs

S1 is fun, definitely wouldn’t skip.