“My Film is Not About Juggalos. It is a Juggalo”: Director Scott Cummings on Making Buffalo Juggalos
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 15 November 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
Couple of weeks ago I went next door from my office to get coffee at Starbucks, in the Doubletree Hotel. Parked at the curb was a white panel van with this on the dashboard and it just made my day. I like to imagine the driver heard about their new Faygo Spice Latte and had to have one.
http://i.imgur.com/vUtxYt9.jpg?2
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Saturday, 15 November 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
mubi is watchable on the teevee with apple tv + ipad/phone airplay but then you need an apple tvit's not like that in all countries, but is weirdly restrictive in america. it's the worst thing about that service.
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
schlump, i can see where you might've landed there; I don't feel like a half hour piece needs to be much more than be a surface-level exploration, especially when it's told from the perspective of the beholden.no idea why the alpaca scene would've bummed you out. they looked pretty and well cared for.
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
thanks, forks; this was something i both didn't like & felt like an asshole for not liking, & i feel bad wading in here. i saw it in a room of people who were really responsive, & there's something kind of precious about finding it objectionable when it so clearly aligns with who it represents & what it set out to do. i think something that maybe got me was the collision of feeling so tonally indulgent - so including like the abandoned warehouse sequences - & then the formal, kinda presentative strategy of hesitating before each shot, so with the scene of two guys in bed under green light, including this ten seconds beat to separate you from what you were seeing. it felt kind of uncaring to me.
but yeah everyone still can watch this on whatever realmedia gameboy color stream mubi is offering, go for it
― schlump, Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
i think the juggalo gaze as presented here IS indulgent, self-absorbed, strategic and uncaring. i took as a feature what you took as a bug. i'm certainly not co-signing that worldview but it came through as honest and deeply felt (if philosophically flimsy) and understandably seductive. Like if your inheritance is suburban boredom and urban blight and there's no real war to fight except justifying your existence, why not play at conscientious objector and just check out in a cloud of hedonism and insouciance. Obvs that's always bottom line thinking with ICP types (and with most if not all 20th/21st century middle class youth movements) but stripped of language and the terrible terrible music, this felt like it was making a compelling, if hermetic, argument and one that i hadn't heard made by/for juggalos. i thought it was effective in presenting a serious alternate perspective that's otherwise easy to laugh off.i hope this guy doesn't do a similar piece on gamergate i guess.
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
that ten second beat you're referring to was effective for me because it tested your presumptions of what two men sitting alone want, given my own prejudices and what I've seen prior. there's a bit of #notalljuggalos but it also felt like a very real display of shared intimacy, "if you prick us do we not bleed"
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
here's the article whiney refers to upthreadhttp://filmmakermagazine.com/86098-my-film-is-not-about-juggalos-it-is-a-juggalo-director-scott-cummings-on-making-buffalo-juggalos/direct self comparisons to browning's freaks and
I’ve been surprised that many people assume everything in the film is real and I’ve taken to half-jokingly paraphrasing Francis Ford Coppola’s line about Apocalypse Now: “My film is not a documentary. My film is not about Juggalos. It is a Juggalo.” My hope is that through the film the myth of the Juggalo deepens and they become more mysterious, more other and more confrontational.
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
def good that this guy with an MFA is striving to make poor suburban kids on FBI watchlists "more other"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
eh, i put that there in reference as explanation to your quoted article titlei dunno, watch it if you can; I thought it was pretty strong
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/07/two-juggalos-charged-attemped-murder-insane-clown-posse-tattoo
― écorché (S-), Sunday, 12 July 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-lesbian-queen-of-the-juggalos-is-reinventing-beauty-standards
if you think this might be safe for your work then well you know best
― j., Thursday, 6 August 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
that looks to me like the ur text from whence all broadly articles will spring
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
url/headline should read The Lesbian Queen of the Juggalettes.
Also noticed that Village Voice didn't do a Gathering roundup this year. What has happened to the journalistic standards of that once-great institution?
― how's life, Saturday, 8 August 2015 10:51 (eight years ago) link
no money to send anyone i would guess
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 August 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link
this link from upthread has aged well
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/676971916/faygo-huntin-made-simple-with-this-new-app
― soyrev, Saturday, 8 August 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-beauty/beauty/news/a42817/clown-contouring-for-sculpted-cheeks/
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 August 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
big money hustlas and big money rustlas are now on amazon prime video.
― how's life, Sunday, 6 December 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link
america 2016: violent j of the insane clown posse is now our voice of reason.
http://time.com/4521464/insane-clown-posse-killer-clowns/
― fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link
2020's Republican nominee
― MarkoP, Sunday, 9 October 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/AeTBench/status/803995993570181120
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 December 2016 06:35 (seven years ago) link
Somehow managed to miss this. Despite a clown being elected president the Juggalos are going to march on DC in September because they once got called a gang or something? Hope there's a live stream!http://www.juggalomarch.com/
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/518iP2ENoyL._AA300_.jpg
― henry s, Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link
they'll fit right in with those clowns in Washington!!
― frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2017 03:10 (seven years ago) link
https://apnews.com/8028e1c92c0c454caa84aa1f6f9a86e2?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbLWAn8Zssg
― how's life, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link
hahahahahahahahahaha
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
That song would certainly liven up Matty in the Morning
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link