Miles Davis - In A Silent Way

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I don't think Shrieve played bass. I found a youtube of a portion of that Chicago concert and the personnel are
John McLaughlin - Guitar (double-neck)
Carlos Santana - Guitar
Khalid Yasin (aka Larry Young) - Organ, Keyboards
Doug Rauch - Bass
Billy Cobham - Drums
Armando Peraza - Percussions

http://youtu.be/O-0u2juyLYc

Rauch was Santana's bassist at the time iirc. The torrent for that show is easy to find, but nobody's seeding -- it's been sitting on zero for 6 hrs now.

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Saturday, 15 November 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

I couldn't remember who Santana's bassist was, is all. Shrieve's name popped into my head.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 15 November 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link

IIRC there's one billy cobham record i like a lot but i can't remember the title and i'm not at home

i like the first bill laswell LP (baselines) and some of the early material stuff.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

i've also developed a taste for some of santana's fusion records from the early 70s, but i do find myself wincing at times while listening to them

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

I love that whole stretch of Santana stuff from '72-'75: Caravanserai, Love Devotion Surrender, Illuminations (with Alice Coltrane), Welcome, and especially Lotus, which sounds like Santana trying to make his own version of Agharta.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link

Xp
I'd guess you mean Cobham's Spectrum album?

xelab, Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

Wow, checking out Illuminations now.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 November 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

I saw Santana in 74, and my memory of that night is much like Lotus. Redeems every dorky thing he's done since.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 16 November 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link

yeah he's traveled a strange road.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 16 November 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link

Always given flakey interviews, and when I saw him do a guest turn w Miles in a long 80s concert vid, he played all over everybody, chewed the scenery 4ever; Miles got in one sardonic oblique-stroke note at the very end, upstaged the whole performance.
Anybody heard The Swing of Delight? Described here by allmusic's William Ruhlmann:
For his second "solo" album, Carlos Santana used Miles Davis' famed '60s group--Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter, and Tony Williams -- plus members of the current Santana band, for a varied, jazz-oriented session that was one of his more pleasant excursions from the standard Santana sound. (Originally released as a double-LP, The Swing of Delight was reissued on a single CD.)

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

Wow, hadn't heard of that. I'd be curious to hear it, but sadly, by that time, whatever was left of Williams' brilliance had completely vanished.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

I just got it (along with a lot of the other late '70s through late '80s band and "solo" albums) last night; will check it out this week.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

thankfully you can't see santana's guitar face while you listen to record

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

I never found any use for Carlos Santana

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 November 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

smdh

the late great, Monday, 17 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

Hurting, check out Caravanserai if you haven't.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link

The torrent for that show is easy to find, but nobody's seeding -- it's been sitting on zero for 6 hrs now.

Don't know if you use slsk but I was able to find it on there.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link

hurting i am digging that wayne shorter track upthread, that is great

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

yeah, that's my jam

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

It's a Milton Nascimiento (who is singing) tune. He recorded at least a couple earlier versions of the song that are also great.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

the hubbard is really good too, it reminded me that i have red clay somewhere on my shelves, need to pull that out again!

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

percussion on mr clean is outstanding

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

u probably know this but Red Clay = tribe sample

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

yea!

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Can we talk about how great the organ cold open is on this album? Like the first five seconds?

bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Monday, 2 February 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link

I had five seconds to spare so I thought I'd check. I agree.

I am using your worlds, Monday, 2 February 2015 03:29 (nine years ago) link

i agree!

marcos, Monday, 2 February 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

Has anyone heard the Mobile Fidelity vinyl reissue? I spotted it for $30 and it sure looks nice. I'm not a super hi-fi enthusiast or anything but this is one of my all time favorite albums (esp if you count the box set, which puts it firmly in the top 5) and I imagine it'll sound pretty sweet on the Rega. I actually don't own a vinyl copy of this, either, so it wouldn't be a redundant purchase, necessarily (though I've made many of those over the years). I don't think I own any Mobile Fidelity releases. Should I get it?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 16 February 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link

the organ sound on this is perhaps the best i've heard on any record.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

a good remastered CD of this will sound better than any vinyl copy

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 16 February 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

and it will set you back $7

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Way-Miles-Davis/dp/B00006GO9Q/

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 16 February 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

Just heard Mal Waldron's album The Call (recorded in Germany 1971)& it has a definite In A Silent Way vibe.

uhwelluh, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

I have this on CD - a few times over, actually! Also have the box set. So you don't think the 'half speed master' or whatever makes any discernible difference? I will say that my reissued mono copy of Round About Midnight is one of the sweetest sounding LPs I own (and again, I'm not the type to notice such things unless they're really obvious)

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

if the CD remastering is done well--and it is, at least on the versions from the late 1990s and early 2000s that i know--then i don't see how the LP can really top it, given the inhering limitations of vinyl playback. i mean, if you prefer the sound of vinyl with all the added static etc. then by all means get the vinyl.

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"the call" is a great album. i've been listening to a lot of mal waldron recently.

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 16 February 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

if i had to engage in an exercise as silly as picking a best album of all time, there are some days when it would be this one.

Moyes Enthusiast (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 February 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

This, A Kind Of Blue and Big Fun make me think of Mozart, Rachmaninov, Schubert and the whole fucking universe. Miles is so amazing at his peak.

xelab, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link

Jimmy, that's a pretty good price for a Mofi pressing; if you want it on vinyl and don't want to wait for an original to turn up it's probably worth it. The CD does sound quite good, though, and can be easily found for $5-6 in stores.

rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 16 February 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link

Holy smokes this Mal Waldron record is dope.

mizzell, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link

Jimmy, that's a pretty good price for a Mofi pressing; if you want it on vinyl and don't want to wait for an original to turn up it's probably worth it. The CD does sound quite good, though, and can be easily found for $5-6 in stores.

― rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, February 16, 2015 6:30 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks! Got it on hold at the record store. I figure, at the very least, it won't be a bummer to own it on vinyl, even if it doesn't blow my mind.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link

It's 'Silent Way,' it will blow your mind regardless.

totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link

Holy smokes this Mal Waldron record is dope.

^^^ yeah, I was totally unfamiliar with this, thanks for the tip.

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link

yeah i just got turned on to that too -- is waldron's other 70s stuff along those lines?

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link

^^^ yeah, I was totally unfamiliar with this, thanks for the tip.

Same here, thanks!

you make me feel like danzig (WilliamC), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

Mal Waldron is great! Hard Talk is amazing - gets wilder than silent way tho

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

My Mal Waldron experience is limited to the three live Five Spot albums with Eric Dolphy and Booker Little, which I love madly. I should hear the one referenced itt!

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

yeahhh those five spot albums are so amazing. maldron's on a few mingus things from the 50s too, and I've got a couple albums of stuff with coltrane (also from the 50s). but i really don't know anything about the later phase of his career. seems like I've got to catch up!

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link

his album "first encounter" w/gary peacock rules too (getting off the vibe of of this thread) but just in general he's excellent

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link

The only Waldron that comes to mind is "Up Popped the Devil" which is great. I'll have to check out some of these others.

totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

y'all know about waldron's work with the band embryo, right? it's not quite the world-historical event that a free jazz/krautrock crossover could and should have been, but it's quite good.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

wait i forgot that "the call" /is/ embryo, essentially.

anyway your next stop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbRlAygcMFo

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link


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