Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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Feminised, infantilised, social justice-oriented art sets aside creativity in favour of politics

for ref: donald rumsfeld insights decorating load screens between predator drone battles = creativity; "there sure are a lot of dead strippers around here" = politics

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

lol @ the alpha centauri shot at the top of that tho.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

trying to remember the last video game i played that wallowed in faux victimhood

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

i guess that fits bowser

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

max payne

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

clickerheroes
you are the victim

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nj6PFaDmp6c/hqdefault.jpg

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

i loled

Beat Happening's Megatron (Will M.), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

PS do gamers actually do well in "academic settings"?

broadly ime the answer to this is "fuck no"

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

feel like one would need to separate out the sub-classes of gamer to get a handle on that really?

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

yeah there are too many meaningless generalizations but most of the young people i know who wd identify themselves as gamers are not academic high-flyers, to draw any connection between video games and academic ability in 2014 is patently fucken ridiculous

Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

ya everyone plays bideo games is one of the hilarious aspects of this whole thing

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

Kissing in the blue dark
Playing pool and wild darts
Bideo games

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

I think 2/3 of my new coworkers are more into video games than me

one of my coworkers was wearing these long Portal 2 socks as stockings, smdh

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link

loooool

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

https://www.jinx.com/p/portal_2_long_fall_socks.html

(not my coworker's leg)

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

https://www.jinx.com/p/portal_2_companion_cube_womens_briefs.html
probably not a good idea for many reasons

So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

I do not want to know if my coworker owns those

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2Rqg5RCQAE-1Mx.png

feel like the shirt of the guy whos landing that thing on the weird moon or w/e is relevant to this convo

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link

[gets off airport shuttle bus in las vegas]

vegas baby!

[claps hard twice]

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

*goes directly to space nerd convention*

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/iW4k06C.png

Hahaha owned

, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

lmao 1st time for everything

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

jesus last two times i have opened this thread i have burst into irl laughter, its a welcome change

Beat Happening's Megatron (Will M.), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link

lol jimmy wales told gamergate to write an example of a non-biased GG wikipedia article. i'm not interested in reading the actual article but the edit history page is a real delight.

you little affront to god (reddening), Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

https://vid.me/5DH5

a total laugh package (s.clover), Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

Xp

Fav quote from that log "Removed the entire John Galt speech, what the fuck."

this things i believe (art), Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:37 (nine years ago) link

sorry guys I will readd it now

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Thursday, 13 November 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

(Changed "flee their homes" to "leave their homes." "Flee" is a highly emotive term implying a real and present threat to their safety.)

yeah just some women leaving their homes after being instructed to by the police, no biggie, prob had to go to the store or something.

moz.gov (Clay), Thursday, 13 November 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link

lol i was just about to post that

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

changed "flee their homes" to "went to a couple open houses"

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

lol

(cur | prev) 01:45, November 13, 2014‎ 137.155.241.91 (wall)‎ . . (491 bytes) (+491)‎ . . (Changed it to what it really is.) (VisualEditor)

http://gamergate.wikia.com/wiki/Proposed_Wikipedia_Entry?diff=5101&oldid=5030

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link

actually, it's about 16,000 words on gaming journalism

finally, the comprehensive dossier outlining everything that's wrong with vidya journalistic ethics, complete with 121 footnotes so it must be credible! i can't face reading it because lol fuck that but i can tell you the word 'quinn' is used 33 times, 'threat' appears 16 times, but 'death threat' and 'harassment' just once each.

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link

Don't think bending over backwards to find examples of female journalists breaching "ethics" in "journalism" is the best way of demonstrating your inclusivity and good faith tbh. Especially not accompanied with screenshots of their personal twitter conversations.

ledge, Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

since I'm a self-loathing idiot, I read through the game review racket part

the logic is as follows:
- Game studios/publishers/backers put a lot of weight on the aggregate score Metacritic assigns a game
- Individual reviews shouldn't have scores that vary much according to a reviewer's opinions if it's an opinion on a topic they deem inessential to the gameplay (?!)
- These outlier reviews skew the scores and developers will be laid off and starving because one reviewer had an opinion different than other reviewers

It obviously falls apart in the middle. They're basically demanding all reviewers to fall in line, and placing the blame on reviewers instead of Metacritic or studios.

jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

seriously this is some weirdo HUAC shit, esp the way they try to get people fired for their connections to "SJW"s

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

this kind of "silent majority" victimhood is reprehensible

Nhex, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

i love how the conclusion is three paragraphs of vague non-committal high-school-book-report shit after 15,000 words of insanely detailed examination of women's twitter conversations (and a picture of geoff keighley)

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

It reads to an extent as a document of a power struggle in GamerGate, the dudes who are actually interested at least talking about journalism are clearly getting the upper hand a little but still need to pander to the base with some red meat about Quinn.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

i saw #WeCanLandOnACometButWeCant was trending:

Woody ‏@XLRWoody 11h11 hours ago
#WeCanLandOnACometButWeCant have a discussion about journalistic ethics without being accused of being rapists #GamerGate

Abdullah Qutbeddeen ‏@AzapYourSaviour 22h22 hours ago
#WeCanLandOnACometButWeCant get Wil Wheaton to stop being such a censor happy bully and manchild. #GamerGate #NotYourShield

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

WIL WHEATON IS BEING SUCH A MANCHILD YOU GUYS

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

they don't realize ST:TNG is in re-runs

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

so metacritic basically just survives on its game section huh

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

remember when they tried book reviews

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

pretty sure the beat-metacritic-keep-your-job concept is over because a) fallout new vegas left a real bad taste in people's mouth and b) mc scores just aren't a good representation of commercial success as much as they were ~5y ago. so that's a stupid argument anyway.

Beat Happening's Megatron (Will M.), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

this is basically about defending the purity of metacritic scores right?

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, October 13, 2014 6:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didn't really know how realistic this was when i posted it

i guess it makes some sense, game review scores are about as uniform across publications as they can be

mostly because reviewers never consider content as being pliable like every other part of gaem

xp

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

i still see ppl putting tons of weight into mc scores. apparently there is a huge difference between a 75 and a 78 and an 81. like every single tick represents an entirely different tier.

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

so i work at a large software company and, when i venture out for lunch, hear dudes having serious discussions about video games as if this is not the most embarrassing thing in the world to do. even when i'm talking with someone irl about a game that i enjoy, i hate how impenetrable and ridiculous it sounds.

anyway, i can't help but wonder if any of these co-workers are #gg dudes (i hope not, and would prefer not to know if that were the case).

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link


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