Marilyn Haggerty's amazing Olive Garden review and the subsequent viral shitstorm

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I think there's a Rumpole where it turns out the motive for murder is that every single night without fail the murdered man, when he starts eating the supper his wife had prepared, says "Tasty, dear, very tasty."

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

i think people were really indulging in a lot of special pleading to make her reviews seem more knowing and clever than they are. that said, i do think it escaped people when she was damning a restaurant with faint praise.

though i still wonder at the utility of describing at length a restaurant that (a) most people have already been to and (b) is absolutely critic-proof.

also what are "real" water glasses? ones made of glass, not plastic?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

smh @ restaurants serving fake water glasses

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

I need to know the pleasant sayings.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

i mean, if i want to go to denny's, no critic is going to prevent me from doing so. especially if it's 3 AM.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

also places where the menu is "redundant and confusing". I get the second bit but it's confusing yoked to the first part.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

confusing confusing. fuckit im going to dennys to boggle my mind.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

i like when i go to ethnic restaurants that have confusing, endless menus -- it's a good exercise for the mind IMO.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

"this menu is redundant dammit"

Fizzles, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

Each cup has a pleasant saying on one side.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

"It says 'Denny's' on one side."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

the oddest part of that review to me is the phrase "eating places"

i mean, other than restaurants, what "eating places" have menus?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

"eating places" would be a good name for a book about traveling around the midwest visiting restaurants

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

I think she just didn't want to repeat the word "restaurant" so much.

nickn, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

"eatery"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

"food dispenser"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

"corporate hole-stuffing location"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

"dumpster"

It's A Living! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

"Denny's"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

"feedlot"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

I don't like how clicking on Haggerty's name means A BILLBOARD SIZED PHOTO pops up. I know she's the most famous Grand Forks resident but

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Does the Montreal IHOP go through this too?

'''French Toast'? C’est un aliment toxique!"

pplains, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

The host sits at the head of the table along with any guest of honor. You don’t wear hats at a dinner table. Food is served from the right. Plates are cleared from the left.

Your napkin goes first on your lap, and it’s recommended you fold it away from you so that you can wipe your fingers surreptitiously, if necessary.

Basic manners for dining are good all year round. They are especially timely for review right before Thanksgiving.

That’s why I asked to join in a session on etiquette and networking at UND. It was offered by UND Career Services. Ilene Odegard, the director, said manners are still relevant. They make a statement as a foundation for good relationships. And they are a mark of a professional.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 November 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

The advice for etiquette and networking is timely at Thanksgiving. The etiquette books say it is courteous for guests to offer help. Then back off if help is not needed. It shows good manners to bring a small gift — maybe something that can be shared by the other guests, perhaps a bottle of wine or a box of chocolates. Spending too much is ostentatious.

Lingering after dinner should not be too long. One suggestion is to make your departure about five minutes before you think you should.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

God I wish I lived in North Dakota sometimes.

pplains, Monday, 24 November 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

wow, I didn't know anything about this. Kevin and I are old friends; he's from Delaware.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 24 November 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

I'm not going to read this thread (which got HUGE, wow) or weigh in on its subject for a variety of reasons. But I will say that I've been in these situations as a reporter at a weekly community newspaper where a) you write about stuff that is hyper-local and no-one outside of the coverage area will care about, or b) you approach hyper-local stuff with an outsider bias and get stung by the community for it. It's...an experience, that second instance, and an educational one.

I don't miss being a professional journalist, but on a lot of levels the year I spend as a general assignment reporter for a 30K-serving weekly opened my eyes to a lot.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 24 November 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

this is the first time I felt the lulling quality of the prose:

There's a station where fries and burgers beckon. And there is a display of foods being offered to help customers make decisions. Food from the full dinner center is far more appealing when you see a plate with meatloaf, mashed potatoes and vegetables.

As the old saying goes, we eat with our eyes.

The five centers in the cafe are the deli, grill, marketplace, pizza and salad.

For me, it was far more inviting to pick and choose from the vast array of greens, fruits and vegetables for a salad. And when I got up to the cash register, my salad was weighed to determine the cost. With the cup of broccoli-wild rice soup and the salad, my lunch came to $4.57. There, I had a brief visit with Loretta Boehm, long-time cashier who knows most everybody in North Dakota.

The dining area is vast. And that is reassuring for people who come to the capitol in large groups.

Gone are the distinctive banners of rainbow colors that used to hang from the ceiling and high above the tables. Now the dining room is done in light tones of brown. The vast room is sectioned off with choices of seating at high tables, in booths or around tables.

While there is much to like about the Capitol Cafe, there are things that make you wonder. Some regulars at the cafe cannot understand why everything is plastic. Everything is thrown away in this beautiful cafeteria facility.

Of course, one would expect there are costs involved.

With its new decor, people who eat in the cafe carry their used plates to an exit where they dump them and all the plastic knives, forks and spoons as they depart.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

I always misread his as Merle Haggard's amazing Olive Garden Revieq

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link

Merle Haggard's Olive Garden reviews were serviceable but not quite as evocative, imo.

Wormy Noel (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

The Dinin' Side Of Me: The Collected Reviews

Wormy Noel (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

"Buffalo wings shinin' in the sunlight..."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

"I'm proud to get some jelly from the deli."

nickn, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link

I'm a breadstick man long as they're not cold.

pplains, Monday, 5 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

Late period Hagerty reviews, unlike her more famous Olive Garden work, are tinged with a creeping awareness of mortality.

man alive, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Sounds like every visit to Olive Garden I've ever taken.

pplains, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

You can have all the soup you can slurp, but you're still going to die one day.

pplains, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Her review of Chuck's Yum Yum Hut was a splendid return to form, easily her best since Scary Monsters.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

The breadsticks are unlimited, but your time is not.

man alive, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

That's why in here, you're like family. The people who will pay for your burial.

pplains, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

The breadsticks keep coming long after you have expired, like a corpse's hair.

man alive, Monday, 5 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

North Dakota critic Marilyn Hagerty takes a tour of four of her town's fast food establishments and her granddaughters tag along. Her verdict on Taco Bell's chicken quesadilla and Baha Blast soda? "The taste was there. The food was good."

http://www.eater.com/2014/8/7/6174621/marilyn-hagerty-wire

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 February 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

oh man:

My idea of a very nice dinner is a petite filet done about medium with rosemary red potatoes. You mix in the company of friends and a glass of wine on a cold winter evening.

And it is memorable.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 February 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

the grand forks herald is actually paywalling this? wtf

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link

My trail through the McDonald's restaurants took me to East Grand Forks, where I ordered a medium-sized low-fat latte. I got quick service and paid $3.18. I collect the little cards that come on the lattes in order to get a free one after the fifth purchase.

The lattes cost less than those I enjoy at Starbucks. But they are worthy. The only problem is occasionally, one of the restaurants will tell you their machine is not working.

"Not working?'' I think. I almost foam at the mouth in disgust, but I try to be pleasant

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 February 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link

only a broken mcdonald's latte machine can throw marilyn off-kilter

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

hence her nickname "The Appetite"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 February 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

I almost foam at the mouth Getting closer to being her own latte machine, while thus triggering associations with Pynchonian themes (see esp. V and the author's introduction to Slow Learner). Some Pynchonians think she is TP, of course.

dow, Monday, 2 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

I almost foam at the mouth in disgust, but I try to be pleasant

#OnlyMidwesternThings

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 February 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

How has the Onion or Clickhole not launched a column along these lines

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link


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