I think it was elsewhere on ilx that convinced me that half the T&E-style sketches are incredibly accurate recreations of the sort of stuff that'd appear on local access talent shows, or other weird local stuff that doesn't really exist in that form anymore. So the feeling of wondering whether I'm supposed to laugh, or just think it's really weird or uncomfortable is really what they're going for.
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
they definitely have a vision. and it's a weird vision. i give them credit for that. that mall movie they made is truly strange.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
some amazing narcissism of small difference on display itt
― tribe? de la? no "humpty dance?" (clouds), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:02 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
u don't get it. there's this one weird stupid thing i liked eight years ago and now there's another weird stupid thing and everyone is talking about that one but not this other one i like, its like not everybody knows about the first one even though i like it where is the justice i ask you
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
so many of these weird humor things just depend on my mood that daythere can be something I love one day and watch it the next week again and I want to punch the tv right it its flat hd face
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
last time I tried to watch wonder showzen I had to take a walk to calm down afterwards
There are so many things I hate about T&E, but boy, there are so many things I love.
― pplains, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
never given any time to T&E, don't f with adult swim much at all, which probably helped in this case! i thought this was really clever and funny. mimicking the roseanne dinner table camera shot was a nice tough.
i mean, what i've seen of squidbillies (like 10 years ago no joke) i thought was just painfully not funny and needlessly disgusting. shrug. sometimes things work, idk, what do you want from me, god
― goole, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
the only character on Squidbillies that I think is actually funny is Granny but the degree to which I find her funny carries me through the rest of the show
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
I think it was elsewhere on ilx that convinced me that half the T&E-style sketches are incredibly accurate recreations of the sort of stuff that'd appear on local access talent shows, or other weird local stuff that doesn't really exist in that form anymore
That said T&E does, once in a blue moon, make something I find funny, but most of the time it's a dud for meI hate Squidbillies too for what it's worth (nothin')
― Nhex, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
Tim & Eric's prevailing interest seems to be in examining how weird human behavior is (like, just run of the mill stuff we all unthinkingly do on a daily basis), and more specifically how we express that weirdness via entertainment. There's absolutely a prevailing point of view that lifts their stuff above crap like Family Guy. That viewpoint and the nightmarish, Lynchian stuff (which has always been present in their work but seems to be becoming more prevalent) are why I love them.
― i only wanted freidn (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
i felt like this was perfectly in line with lots of other adult swim stuff in tone and content, it's notable because it blew up, & not the other way around
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
imo tim&eric awesome show had a pretty long run of mediocrity after the first season that wasn't redeemed until the paul rudd sketch in the final episode
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
why don't you stand like a regular manThen you can pee in the urinal can
― brimstead, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
Tim & Eric seems much better suited for Youtube. They're incredibly hit and miss and many of their sketches just make me uncomfortable. But man, the best stuff is just incredible.
Check it Out! is pretty good, though tbh I don't really know what Steve Brule is supposed to be anymore. He's kinda had the Homer Simpson character arc where he's went from dimwitted and charming to being literally too dumb to do anything
If you haven't seen it yet, the Totino's Pizza Roll commercial they did was actually really funny. Its the whole T&E essence boiled down to three minutes.
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80yjtJFf-v0
― i only wanted freidn (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
that actor is the best part of the current season of newsreaders
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
the comedy was really great, dunno if it's still on netflix, probably is
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
The one full episode of Awesome Show I would recommend without reservation is Jim & Derrick. Probably followed by the Tairy Greene Machine episode (feat. Zach Galifianakis, David Cross, Ted Danson, Richard Marx, and Peter Cetera).
― i only wanted freidn (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB7mwekcDWc
I hated 'the comedy' so muchiirc Eric at one point was like 'I would be an awesome slave owner'the film kindled all my 'the rich must be destroyed' feelingsI did not laugh once
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
or timit was tim
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/pattygopez/default/tim-enchanter-monty-python-holy--large-msg-130998059361.jpg
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
agreed, except i turned it off after the first scene.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
I still haven't seen The Comedy, but wasn't the point that they were supposed to be terrible people? Also, FWIW, they only acted in that one (their Baseketball, if you will).
― i only wanted freidn (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah if you want to see a bunch of privileged shitheads really being the world's most committed privileged shitheads, it's worth a view
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
Tim and Eric had a lot of good bits but they have tested my faith over the last few years. I still love Check It Out! though.
I turned off The Comedy and the T&E movie pretty quickly.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
The Comedy's pretty pointedly not a comedy, more of a critique of irony drenched, hyper cynical, privileged hipster shithead attitudes. Unpleasant viewing but kinda interesting, for a while at least. Not sure it really went anywhere or added up to much.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
Frankly, that's what I figured Tim and Eric actually already were.... so another good opportunity for them to "perform" awfully?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
why would ilx prefer to talk about tim and eric than pffr, is what i wonder
― imago, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Maybe I'm just way the hell out of touch with what codes as 'privileged hipster shithead' these days (entirely possible) but I've never gotten the impression that their stuff was informed by those attitudes. The fact that they've done next-to-no straight press probably hasn't done them many favors with people who aren't inclined to meet them halfway, but what biographical info I do know about them suggests that they're pretty decent and normal dudes who people really enjoy working with.
― i only wanted freidn (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
In other Adult Swim news... lol
NICKI MINAJ ✔ @NICKIMINAJThe artist who made the lyric video for “Only” was influenced by a cartoon on Cartoon Network called "Metalocalypse" & Sin City.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
I think the episode of WTF with both of them was the closest I've heard them come to "straight" press, though even then it was couched in a Maron's stand-offish attitude and a few "standard" T&E detours into absurdity. I think your last line though nails what I kinda took away from the interview.
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― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
I still stand by my Adult Swim picks way upthread
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
I feel like I only catch the actual AS cartoons occasionally now and just end up bitching about how it used to be better. To me, it's going to be really hard to beat the first few seasons with Aqua Teen / Sealab / Home Movies / Brak Show / Space Ghost.― mh. (mike h.), Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:57 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Home Movies is all-time. Still prefer Cartoon Planet to any of the other Space Ghost enterprises.
― i only wanted freidn (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
adult swim right now is all about eric andre and mike tyson mysteries... newsreaders not so good with new cast/writers and i'm burned on attack on titanabout half of the T&E Bedtime Stories are pretty good and the other half are terrible. basically, t&e
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
i'd rather not watch the cartoon about the famous rapist boxer
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
i wouldn't fault you for not being into it but it's pretty good. It's in the Brak Show / Space Ghost lane.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
or harvey birdman. and tbf, MTMysteries is about ten to twenty steps behind eric andre but most everything is.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
if there's no actual joke/scenario/plot/story (take your pick), it's just a bunch of smug idiots pointing their fingers and haw-hawing it up
Ive never once gotten this vibe from T&E. Certainly not that the aim is smugness "look at this idiot lol retards". That seems a sad take, to me.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link
(I'm not saying its all good, that said. Endless vomit/shit scenes do nothing whatsoever for me, bleugh)
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
we are obviously watching different tim and eric shows
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
i def. feel that the grislier stuff in "too many cooks," while producing some funny and inventive gags, feels like the creators didn't trust their basic concept enough. it feels like easy audience gratification in a "skit" (or whatever it is) that is exciting mostly for suspending normal forms of gratification to absurd lengths.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link
but i'm not going to front, this thing was great. people who say it's been done before are right in a sense, but as with most things, the devil is in the details, and the details are very, very clever.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
The Eric Andre Show is produced by Abso Lutely so maybe one thing to like about Tim & Eric is that they produce the Eric Andre Show? And are responsible for a lot of the casting? (Including the entire band)
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
Would be my recommendations as well.
― pplains, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:34 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i dunno man. if it'd been just the first 4 minutes, or if it carried on the basic premise with no twist for 11 minutes, it'd be a lot less interesting/noteworthy/funny, and probably wouldn't have been deemed worth doing. at least not as a standalone program, maybe it would've been done as part of an episode of a series and nobody would've cared.
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link
lol i responded to 'i dunno' by saying 'i dunno,' totally wasn't on purpose
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
Q: Sending up TV credits is one thing; where did the idea of throwing a Jason-like killer with a machete into the mix come from?
A: Well, you have to remember: These things are 11 minutes long. It sounds short, but when you have to fill that time slot and keep the attention of people who are usually watching TV at four in the morning...it's long. So I thought, I need to throw every notion I've got into this. Even when you start switching genres, and it turns into, say, a cop show — that joke may be funny for a few extra minutes and then that's going to wear off. And as soon as people get tired of that, I have to hit them with something else. That's where the idea of the killer came from.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
ha! so i was right. maybe i'm just being an internet hardman, but i would have liked to see the whole thing develop over 10 minutes without giving so much time over to the serial killer antics.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
or maybe they could have just developed the videodrome-like medium-specific elements even more...