The excellent website of Dublin life and lore Come Here To Me! embarks on a discussion of that now vanished phenomenon “the Rathmines accent”, prompted by the (not, it must be said, enormously well vouched) idea that Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was taught English by an Irishman - in fact a native of Leinster Road in Rathmines.
The phrase seems to have been a simple shorthand term for posh or Anglified speech, which then as now tends to rub many ordinary citizens up the wrong way. Still, the accent had its uses, it seems: in 1942 “a married woman” and “a married man” (not married to each other, one assumes) were able to gain admission illicitly to one of Mr Paddy Belton’s licensed premises by saying they were from Rathmines. They were, in fact, from Santry and were fined 5/- each for the imposture at Kilmainham District Court.
Dublin Review of Books
+ Lenin
― Fizzles, Monday, 10 November 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
Come Here To Me is brilliant. Their book is a great read.
Is Rathmines still all that posh? I suppose it must be really.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
was mostly student housing rentals that were owned by pretty well-off ppl, no? though obvs rathgaaaaaar has it well beaten in the posh department.
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
also, I feel that the accent described upthread still proliferates in Foxrock.
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Dartry was always very posh. I think anything above the fancy butchers in Upper Rathmines Road is posh Rathmines.
Fair point about Rathgar though.
Accent is pure southside ("SoCoDu" iirc) - not just Foxrock. Present wherever there is a speech and drama class and the postcodes are even...
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
I associate with Foxrock because I recall living in SoCoDu for a few years, including Blackrock for a bit, and interviewing for a job as a student at this palace in Foxrock. The woman had THE poshest accent I'd ever heard, when I innocently asked where she was from, she fixed me with a glare and spat "here".
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Palace not the most incorrect typo perhaps?
It is very posh, true.
Greystones has become ridiculously posh. Ditto Malahide. It's like to create posh Dubs, just add water (and a marina).
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
Greystones has always been half posh half Wicklow
― legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Monday, 10 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Props to Bray for keeping it real.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
not a typo at all, I needed to pack a lunch just to trek up the ten mile drive
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Fair enough. Decent of her not to set hounds on you for cheeky question re. origins.
One of the oddest place in Dublin is Rathfarnham. Should be posh but feels like a weird halfway house to absolutely nowhere. Even Marlay Park feels weirdly peripheral. Like Tymon Park but older obviously.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
*places
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I worked 15 years ago with a man named Orson, and remember erstwhile IlXoR accentmonkey making a joke about setting fire to houses in Foxrock.
Great days, Gay, great days.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
I heard him recently on Lyric FM (Gaybo rather than the posh firestarter) and it actually took me a moment to realise it wasn't Oliver Callan he's become such a parody of himself. Daycent choons all the same.
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell
heh
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 12 January 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Jesus I leave the country for like several years and ye get rid of the pink Snack? they are the worst Snack but even so
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
true and true
the water charge protests won't be in it imo
― local eire man (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
Lies! I was just 5 hours ago looking at a packet of them in the wee Spar in Dublin Airport Terminal 2
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
nah you'd want to get rid of the purple snack for that level of outrage
pink snack is more like...that time the Journal made a completely terrible list ranking biscuits available in Ireland
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
could be the last of the old stock? like those TK lollipops that were phased out everywhere yet you could always get them in that Centra off Cathal Brugha St until at least 2009
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
xp (surely in the fullness of time to become an interpretative centre itself)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
http://www.donegalnow.com/article/9972
― tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
It was bad enough reducing the fingers from three to two, but now a Dublin man has begun a campaign.
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
oi
― local eire man (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
He has suddenly got geat support from all over Ireland, including Donegal
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
In case readers of Donegal Now were wondering why there were harps on all their money.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
it is that sort of weird no-man's land all tucked away up there
i mean, the train doesn't even go there still, does it?
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
donegal is a fine place but a hard case and if they seceded I'd not blame them much
but turning sinn féin is no fucking way to go about things neither
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link
where would they secede to? their own republic? at least they'd get the trains running on ti-
― gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
oh chrisht u better hope #0 dont pop in
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Snacks are such a granny-visit bar. Yellow clear favourites.
Donegal could secede to Iceland. Donegal Catch wouldn't have to sweat the quotas.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Jesus they'd go for that I'm practically authorised to speak on behalf of killybegs meself
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
yellow, really? if there were enough Irish ilxors for a poll, I'd expect purple to walk it.
― gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
purple def the type of niche indie option I'd expect ILX to go for tbh!
but I would not be able to vote in such a poll a world without any of em is a poorer place and they occupy v different needs imo
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
I guess what I'm rly saying is that
I dont care if you're pink, yellow, purple
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link
definitive snack ranking
purpleyellow
pink
― gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
Purple. Pink only for culchie primary school teachers along with king crisps.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
put up your 29 fists
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link
Is crystal meth really legal until Thursday?
― Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
disgraceful, could they not stretch it out until monday?
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
may i call people's attention to this Best Irish Films ?
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thejournal.ie/tds-emergency-laws-drugs-1983239-Mar2015/
Dia dhuit Éire
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
hiiiiiiiii
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
it's completely unsurprising that this has been allowed to happen. This country's drug policy over the last decade has basically been a series of cobbled together quick fixes inspired by particularly heated episodes of Liveline
― Number None, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
darragh spent the night off his nut stroking his nipples while listening to "live forever" on repeat
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
u know it
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Definitely an image more for Adrian Kennedy than Joe Duffy.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 12 March 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/family-fortunes-men-were-a-rare-species-on-achill-in-the-1950s-1.2138780
uncle michéal with some thoughts. my mum is in braces in the front row.
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
That's brilliant. Also a great picture!
Achill is one of the greatest places (totally sidestepping the sadder parts of the story, sorry).
― hyggeligt, Friday, 20 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6KyQBO8.jpg?1
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link