timeley revival.
after years of being a stan for the 80s virgin albums, i decided it was time to fill the gap.so yesterday i picked up phaedra, rubycon, and cyclone, along with the edgar froese boxset (similar to the TD ones, in that they pack in all 6 solo albums from the virgin era, plus b-sides/edits etc on 4 cds, and sell it for less than a tenner !)lots to dive into.yes, the vocals on side 1 of cyclone are a bit of a 'wtf' moment, but the second side track makes up for it, and, how on earth have i lived this long without having rubycon in my collection.
would love to see a hq full length concert from their mid/late 70s period. there are various clips on youtube, but no full length concerts, well, not when i last had a dig.
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 09:21 (nine years ago) link
ha i have the two virgin boxes in the mail on the way to me at the moment too, after relying on youtube all this time
looking fwd to having some berlin school to call my own
― i've got my own post to do (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link
i paid more for the three individual cds yesterday than had i got both of the boxsets !
however, there would be a lot of duplication as i have the rest and i wanted the albums straight. also, the boxsets spread albums across cds, and i prefer to listen to my t'dream in straight through album chunks.
that said, i will probably get them both as backups i.e. good for the car, and the edits/b-sides, as they really are excellent value for money.
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 09:37 (nine years ago) link
robert : never heard the legend sound track, so cannot comment. sorry.
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 09:38 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I wanted those box sets too but changing cds to hear a whole album is a big no no for me.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 7 November 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link
totally agree - hence why i went down the more pricey route.why they chose that style to package the collection, as opposed to the normal route of each album in a cheap and cheerful cardboard sleeve, and then the extras on a seperate disc .. i guess economics, but i would have thought minimal cardboard sleeves would be cheaper than the doubled up plastic box.still shouldn't complain as the music is so bloody good :-)
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
How worthwhile is the Legend soundtrack?Jon Anderson being on it is an extra incentive for me.
The Legend soundtrack is not their best work.
They were only given three weeks to do it. The original score was done by Jerry Goldsmith. Then at the last minute the producers decided to change it and Tangerine Dream were brought in.
Sonically it is similar to Le Parc, lots of digital sounds. But the tracks are less developed and there are not many layers to the music.
Jon Anderson does vocals on only one track. I think he wrote the lyrics for the track as well. The result sounds similar to the tracks he did with Kitaro on the 1992 Dream album.
― Tokyo Crow, Friday, 7 November 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
Yeah legend is not top tier td film scoring. It plays a little better on the expanded bootleg than on the OST but it's not essential stuff. The goldsmith score, on the other hand, is bold, bizarre and well worth having.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 November 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Interesting rerecording of the t dream score was released on BSX a year or two ago. Fella did his own arrangement which blends td-mimicking synths with acoustic instruments, including Classical Chinese instruments.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 November 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
The recent Tangerine Dream box sets are excellent value for money. But the sad thing about them is that three important tracks were not included: 'Barryl Blue', 'Chimes and Chains' and 'Haunted Heights'. These three tracks were originally released on an LP and cassette compilation called "Tangerine Dream '70 - '80". Each track was a solo composition by each member of the band. You can really hear 'who did what in TD' when you listen to these tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rVxIGklCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUlolYWQYGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-4ukQaTXTI
― Tokyo Crow, Friday, 7 November 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
could really use a cheap klaus schulze box, please music gods let this happen
― john wahey (NickB), Friday, 7 November 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
Sorcerer is a killer soundtrack by these guys. There is some gurgling evil in some of those tracks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg3L56kOe6s#t=1389
― earlnash, Friday, 7 November 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
i find it interesting how edgar has never done the 'lets revive the old school' thing.i mean even jarre did when he redid oxygene live in the studio, he dig out all the original analogue kit, and with a couple of mates, recreated the album live, brilliantly.but t'dream seem to have burnt their bridge to their past.or, have they (i say they, but its basically edgar + extras now innit) ?
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Edgar and son and co.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link
oh. did not know that.that makes it even weirder then as you would think a younger influence would be all : 'dad, its all about the old analogue groove now, not this preset digital shit ..'
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link
Iirc his son has been in the band almost since they first went in their current ambient-dance direction? So he's probably not the one who's gonna bring that truth bomb
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
fair enough.someone needs to have a word with them as the current love for analogue noises and drawn out grooves could easily be a thing for them.i mean, if only there was a rick rubin of the electronica world.cos, i genuinely believe that edgar and a revised crew could kill it if they revisited their glory days.
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link
i once posted 'no mans land' on my site with no detail as to who it was.my inbox was flooded with requests for info.made in 1983, that track is pure proto-rave.
― mark e, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link
Their live rerecording of Sorcerer from this year was surprisingly not that bad
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
Hyperborea is such a great record xp
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 November 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
Well they did new versions of a few of their classic albums so they aren't against revisiting the past.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 7 November 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link
yeah, but revisions of their classics !!? behave.(i only mentioned jarre as an example of someone who is clearly aware that his excesses are no longer in demand .. )wire up the modulars and tour without the singers.that said, i would not turn down seeing them live with/without the excess.however, the band only do one night in london now, and then head home.
and yes, hyperborea is insanely good .. i mean really really good.
i still say that electronica needs a rick rubin.someone to come along and kick bands of the era up the arse and make them realise the errors of their recent ways.
all that aside .. should i track down the revisions then ?
― mark e, Saturday, 8 November 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link
I'll vouch for sorcerer. Not sure about the other remakes.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 8 November 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link
ok, the remastered edition of 'exit' arrived yesterday.this means i now have the complete set of virgin era releases, apart from 'theif'.as that's a soundtrack release, i never felt the urge to go that deep, am i missing out ? i used to have 'exit' on cassette, so not heard this in years.wasn't even aware that there are 2 variations of the cover art until i ripped it into the archive, and it displayed a different cover to the one i have seen for the last 30 odd years.they did it with tangram as well, 2 different covers.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 09:08 (nine years ago) link
"Thief" is great in places, there's bootlegs of it with a LOT more tracks too.
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2014 10:47 (nine years ago) link
Perseverance put out a reissue of thief not long ago in pretty good sound. I think it's essential td.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link
"Kiew Mission" and the title track of Exit are two of my very favorite TD tracks. The PPG Wave was a good sound for these guys.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
i'm still enjoying the GTA V sdtk! the first song is still totally my jamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cETBCvKnu0Q
― i give up (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
Did u get gta v as a cd or a download? I keep forgetting it's out there
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 November 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
did the GTA soundtrack get a proper release ?
― mark e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 23:47 (nine years ago) link
I think I dl'ed it from emusic? It's really videogamey probably but I don't play video games so it just sounds like dramatic music to me!
― i give up (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 November 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
ahh .. well that tells me all i need to know.
ta.
i.e. i am more than happy re my virgin era completion.
('thief' seems to be one release that is seriously complicated !)
― mark e, Friday, 14 November 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link
All the GTA stuff was released digitally before the retail release. On Spotify. This is kinda a weird direction for TD. More interesting than pretty much anything they've done in a generation. But odd nonetheless.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 14 November 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
Whoa, news out of nowhere -- Edgar Froese has passed on:
http://www.tangerinedream-music.com/index.php?/news_more.php
Dear Friends,This is a message to you we are deeply sorry for…On January 20th, Tuesday afternoon, Edgar Froese suddenly and unexpectedly passed away from the effects of a pulmonary embolism in Vienna.The sadness in our hearts is immensely.Edgar once said: “There is no death, there is just a change of our cosmic address."Edgar, this is a little comfort to us.Yours,EB (ADMIN) & the whole EASTGATE MUSIC TEAM
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
what the
RIP
this sucks, I want to go home and listen to the Virgin Years instead of being at work.
― ilx polls with striking imago (sleeve), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
:(
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
RIP cosmic weirdo
― groundless round (La Lechera), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Oh no!!!!!!!!! RIP Edgar :((((
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
oh no
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
Holy shit
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
I was just listening to stuntman yesterday and thinking how amazing it was
wow, what an incredible shock. dude had been pumping out albums so frequently for so long a part of me kinda assumed he was gonna live another 30 years.
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Doing a lot of travelling by train this weekend, time to load up on the TD/Edgar albums.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
― emil.y, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
One feels that if there really is such a thing as resting in peace, froese will be doing so.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
:(((
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
i rarely connect with rock star deaths, but this is sooo very different for me.tangerine dream were my first band that i discovered beyond my parents/radio 1/radio 2.they became very special to me.hence when i got to see them in the mid 80s and they still looked like 3 mad professors in front of their banks of modular synths making sounds that made my inner gut wobble i knew this was a band i would love forever.
― mark e, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Fuck fuck fuck... RIP
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
― You are swimming in spaghetti. Without a paddle. (snoball), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link