Anticipating SYRO the new (2014) album by Aphex Twin

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(he is lying about everything, including lying about when he's lying.)


that was my orig name b4 aphex

pbod, phonic boy on dope :)))

lol

example (crüt), Monday, 3 November 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

The 911 truther BS he spouts is depressing as all fuck. But I guess, like, here is a guy who is totally disconnected from any reality except that which filters in through his weird hacker-friends filter, and it's just... Of all the conclusions you could have drawn about the state of the world, and the problems in it, and this is the one you go for. But I guess that's what happens when you take that much acid for that long, like, all of the paranoia in your head circles back on itself, and in the course of being so sceptical that you believe nothing, you end up believing anything.

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Monday, 3 November 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Was that what he was saying? I thought he was decrying those people that thought it was an inside job etc. I hoped he was, anyway..

Mark G, Monday, 3 November 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

this interview is AMAZING

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 November 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

Recently when some journo's were saying 'so you actually believe 9/11 was an inside job' , attempting to paint picture of me bein a crackpot , {yawn} I was totally shocked, they were intelligent people but still they didnt get it, just popularist, pandering to what they think will be popular, instead of thinking for themselves and expressing their own opinions.
Im really, really sorry to all folks who might be reading this but if you believe the ridiculous story that is being pedaled about 9/11 from the mainstream media then you are absolutely gullible, some very clever people are also very naive and very gullible, they are not nasty people but very trusting and theyre good nature is being taken advantage of. Not believing the mainstream media is very hard for some folk who have put their trust and faith in the state and press, breaking that faith will not be an easy process for many.
Some people just see through bullshit very effortlessly and can easily tell when people are lying, others it seems can't , that in itself is an area im interested in.
When I first watched footage of 9/11, I was around this geezers house in London , he is a real geezer n all , I was buying old jungle records , he had this massive widescreen tv in his flat which was too big for the room, classic and as soon as we watched the twin towers being struck ,he said really matter of factly , they just did it to themselves and I was like thank fuk for that, people are not THAT gullible.

It really seems like he's agreeing here with people who state that, contrary to the 'mainstream media' that 'the US did it to themselves'.

Is there another reading I could be getting out of this? It doesn't even seem like a 'The US did it to themselves (with 60 years of shitty post-WW2 foreign policy)" it seems like he's a sodding truther. If there's an another explanation of this, please tell me how to read it because I'd like not to believe it. But a guy who a few bits earlier was quoting They Live like it's a documentary not sci-fi doesn't have me hopeful. :-/

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

The receipt for his dx100 signed by his Mum! <3

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Monday, 3 November 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, how you said it with that "60 years" bit was how I read it, but yeah, sigh, chalk another one..

Mark G, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

i like how the interview person keeps being all like "「nervously」 uh yeah david icke, interesting guy. but anyway how about that casio fz10? awesome bit of kit"

fuhgeddaboudit! (missingNO), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Sad you didn't add your $0.02 cents tbh :(

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Monday, 3 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

just been reading more about how microwaves can be used to control peoples minds and give people cancer etc , stealth weapons..have you noticed how high profile people who are anti establishment quite often die of cancer related illness's?
bill hicks
robert anton wilson
terrance mckenna etc etc

Matt DC, Monday, 3 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

It's weird how my experience of conspiracy-thinkers tend to be such a weird mirror of what he's accusing people who don't agree with him of. Like he's clearly very intelligent, and has the kind of intelligence capable of making connections and intellectual syntheses and conceptual leaps, but lacks any kind of structural framework for distinguishing 'possible' from 'probable'.

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Monday, 3 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

i would take this all with a rock of salt honestly

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 3 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

I mean yeah "I don't have any children, we made that up, what a laugh" followed a few paragraphs later by proud father talking about his kids' musical compositions is about the level of it.

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Monday, 3 November 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

his "kids'" songs are LOOOOOOOL

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 09:24 (nine years ago) link

I actually do have kids, one is quite musical and is producing things that would make you go "that's quite good, that is"

If he's really inventing the whole kids/music thing, that's quite sad really. Not sad as in pathetic, sad as in sad.

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 09:38 (nine years ago) link

He did not actually invent 'having kids'. He has kids, he has two sons. He is lying about not having kids. However, he also lied and introduced his current (Russian) girlfriend as his wife. His ex-wife, (Chanelle James, unsure of the spelling?) the mother of his kids, is not Russian. But she definitely exists, she is a real person, even if the Russian girlfriend was impersonating her.

CHRIST WHY DO I KNOW THESE THINGS WHY DO I CARE ABOUT THESE THINGS. THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME FOR STORING THESE FACTS IN MY BRANE.

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link

Gonna come home tonight and realise my copy of Syro was just a notional concept and not a real album at all.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 09:56 (nine years ago) link

.. which is why I did not believe he invented his kids.

(honest)

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:02 (nine years ago) link

There is no SYRO. He lied about the whole thing, these are just a bunch of demos he found when Rephlex was disbanded that he stuck his name on and put out, haha we all fell for it, what a kidder you are, Richard D.

frauhaus (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:05 (nine years ago) link

he doesn't even exist. it's all a marketing trick dreamt up by some ravers on a come down in the late eighties. his entire life and career trajectory was worked out over the course of a couple of hours

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:38 (nine years ago) link

I woke up and this thread was gone. Couldn't find it in search, couldn't even find a reference to Syro, period. But when my head the pillow last night it was at the top of my bookmarks.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link

I dreamt that I was eating a giant s950tx16wasr10, and when I woke up my Syro was gone!

example (crüt), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link

This guy is doing my head in:

http://noyzelab.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/syrobonkers-part2.html

rich: in my old bank, it was on the first floor, sometimes buses would stop outside my house and i would be staring at people through the window really close, my mate ian said he saw me once in the studio from the bus!

This is going to sound crazy, but do you know how many times I've been on a 133 at that specific bus stop, way before I knew he lived there, and just had the creepy feeling that I was being watched, especially late at night?

i miss the basement in my old bank, amazing reinforced concrete walk in vaults, hugely reverberant, recorded many things in there, it was also haunted, vault opened itself once and the taps were left on maximum had to use a monkey wrench to turn them off, had to try hard for it not to creep me out.
how mental is that, nobody could have got in....so weird..
, it was a very creepy place, now there is a 22 storey block of flats there, on top of it, i bet they had a hard time getting those vaults out, reinforced concrete 5ft thick..

I've actually got photos of this happening. The Thameslink always used to stop and wait, right by the building site. So if you stood up and went in the front carriage, you could look right down into the building site. It took them ages to dig out the vault, it was just open to the air and you could look down into it, and it felt so fucking weird knowing that that had been his recording studio.

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Monday, 10 November 2014 10:19 (nine years ago) link

first floor basement?

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Monday, 10 November 2014 10:30 (nine years ago) link

One floor up from the very Basement.

Mark G, Monday, 10 November 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link

Apologies for not being clearer: I spliced together two bits of the interview where he was explaining the locations detailed in the liner notes of the album. He recorded some tracks in the 'thin room' on the first floor of The Bank, and some in the vault or basement. I thought it was fairly obviously that a large building like a bank could have more than one floor, or that he could have more than one place where he recorded.

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Monday, 10 November 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link

i'm sure, i was just being ridiculous.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Monday, 10 November 2014 11:51 (nine years ago) link

One thing I've realised is that since I stopped being a musician, I've become less and less interested in long, extremely technical and extremely detailed expositions of gear.

Actually, wait, I was never really that interested in ~gearhead discussion for the sake of it~, even when I was a musician.

And yes, I'm sure that RDJ would say this was because I was a ~wake up sheeple~ or whatever and it's so terrible and shows I'm asleep. But though there is a certain amount of interest in "these are the tools I used to do this specific trick or particular sound" or "here is a toy which is important to me, and I think more people might enjoy", there's a certain kind of gearhead bravado where it's just talking about massive complicated gear ~for the sake of talking about gear~ that really turns me off.

He says in the interview that he is probably autistic, and I know that can be an autistic spectrum trait, of not understanding that other people might not be endlessly interested in the tiny, specific technical details of subjects they are not closely involved in. Which is, y'know, fair enough.

I am interested in gear that I use, and gear that is (even potentially) available to me. But that's the point where I switch off, that point where it becomes almost like boasting. His stories about how he got his synthis are funny, but there's a difference between interest in tools, for the interesting things that one can do with those tools, and the interest in tools just as objects and competition and comparison. And it's not just him, it's a common musician trait in lots of musicians. One I never had much patience for, and have less and less patience for as I get older.

I guess the moral of the story is, I should stop reading interviews with Aphex Twin, and instead just enjoy the music and accept that he is off on some wavelength different to mine. :-/

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Monday, 10 November 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link

that's interesting. i always thought equipment/tech stuff was largely considered a well-kept secret among the Warp-tyle cabal, so it always surprises me when people like Aphex / Autechre etc reveal loads about the equipment they use. I'm not interested in gear either, mostly because I'm not interested in mimicking a particular artist's sound and also because I wouldn't be able to afford most of the hardware in a million years. But I am interested in working methods - not just 'I arrange my tracks like this', 'I create loops like this', but the actual thought processes and concepts that go into a piece of work. Like, when I spoke to Rob Brown about a year ago for tQ, I was really keen to try and extrapolate this from him and it wasn't easy, to be fair, but I did get a nice rundown of the various tracks on L-Event.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Monday, 10 November 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link

'What aspects of the creative/songwriting process are interesting to the non-musician' is one of those interview subjects that is just really really hard to strike the right balance.

I think that's why writers focus so much on the human elements of pieces of music (e.g. the vocals) to the exclusion of the non-human. That is the part that is most accessible to people who do not play guitars or synths or program drum machines. The further you get from the human and the closer you get to the machine, the less interesting it is going to be to either a casual reader (i.e. not a fan of that artist) or person-who-does-not-do-the-things-they-talk-about (i.e. a non-musician when talking to musicians.)

This interview happens to be two musicians who have 1) known each other a long time and 2) are highly interested in technical aspects of gear, so I guess that's why it went so far down that direction.

But there are other aspects of recording which are more relatable - the questions about *where* he records, rather than *what* he records, for example - because I'm always very interested in how a sense of place affects art and the creation of it. That tiny tidbit of him liking to record in his bedroom because he likes being able to muck about in the nude or in his y-fronts, that provides a sense of place and personality, which is more relatable. Things like, 'the Lodge' being a shed he has to go out with a flashlight to find, that provides more of a clue of isolation being important, of being cut off from the world and distractions.

The way one creates in one's bedroom is different from the way one creates in an artificial studio environment; the way one creates in a busy city centre is different from a shed up a mountain in (Cornwall/Scotland/wherever he's pretending to live at the moment). I suppose those things are more interesting to me, because they are about the bits of the process that I find salient.

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Monday, 10 November 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link

It's the difference between the hardware and the software element.

Mark G, Monday, 10 November 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link

I love reading about instruments and studios and stuff, and how hi-tech (machine) meets low-tech (people). I was always fascinated by tales of Aphex building his own synths (just like Kraftwerk and OMD and New Order did, albeit they did it from kits), or musicians buying fancy synths and either modding or breaking them or using them incorrectly. So when Aphex or Autechre name the stuff they use, I don't think of it as revealing trade secrets, because the dudes making and breaking and stuff essentially are the trade secrets. Reading about, say, Autechre using generative software but manipulating things in real time is really cool, just like reading the revelation that the Bomb Squad was playing or triggering a lot of the samples on those PE albums in real time, because the memory banks couldn't hold more than a few seconds of information. It's the human element that makes the stuff awesome and unique and weird, not the instruments or studios, though the humans needs those things to do what they do.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 November 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

Here is Daniel Lanois remixing Tinariwen in real time in the back of a moving car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WB5vt3kyCE

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 November 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

See the reason why I love listening to RDJ scrolling through the presets on Buchla / futzing with his Serge is because now I'm hearing what modulars actually sound like? instead of just seeing their name on the title of a track that could've been made with anything

https://soundcloud.com/richarddjames/sets/syrobonkers

fgti, Monday, 10 November 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcBVSsmxT04

example (crüt), Monday, 10 November 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link

Maybe I'm missing 90% of this, because anytime anyone posts a Soundcloud link, it is, to me, basically the same as posting a blank page or a little red X.

I think, Josh, you're misunderstanding me because I feel like "how people use technology" is interesting, especially the ways in which the limitations of technology induce creativity and new forms of working.

But I'm just less and less interested in lists of gear and gear pr0n photographs and "lookit my fucken Buchla". (This may indeed just say something about me, and how much I used to fetishise that kind of stuff, before.) I think, if you are a musician or a composer, or at least fancy yourself as someone who could potentially be one, then there is more of an interest in the tools themselves, as opposed to ~ways in which people have used the tools~.

Like, after 20 years of RDJ saying next to nothing about his equipment and working methods, to suddenly go from that to an 80 page interview (not counting the photos! that is just the text) comprised of lists of gear. That's just a bit much. I think I preferred the mystery.

This may be entirely personal, that there's an element of "This is no longer relevant to my life; so STFU, I don't want to know, you're just showing off now." jealousy to it. I don't know. I guess everyone else disagrees with me and had no trouble reading all 82 pages without skipping any of it.

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Monday, 10 November 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

I guess it's also just personal, in that one of the massive turn-offs I found about that whole scene, was the amount of preponderance on gear, on equipment, on kit and clobber - to the utter exclusion of anything that might be read as "it's personal chemistry" or "it's emotion" or "it's the specific circumstances of that particular artist at that moment in time."

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Monday, 10 November 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

I think the mystery of his gear was always overblown/fun PR. I remember the same week I read something about him making all his own gear I borrowed a yamaha DX-27 from somebody and one of the factory patches was clearly prominently used on a Polygon Window track or something.

dan selzer, Monday, 10 November 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Well, I'd consider myself a 'musician', (I can vaguely remember), and lists of equipment would range from "What we have", "What we need", "What we don't need" and "What the hell is it?"

My "songwriter" head would be more about external sources, inspiration and so forth.

Having a massive discussion about tech/equip would be OK for five mins, tops.

The interview was interesting, and yeah I skipped loads. I don't really feel the need to see another one, unless he's got something else to say.

Mark G, Monday, 10 November 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/richarddjames

40+ new tracks on his soundcloud.

Moka, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

whaaat

sleeve, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

lots o' modular bleeps and bloops

dan selzer, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

lots of abstract buchla jams. playing this simultaneously is making that new pink floyd album go down a lot easier.

ha, just got to the point in the interview where hecker forwards him a ludicrous french TV documentary about them installing the 4X at IRCAM. I hope this is a ten part interview, I wouldn't get bored

Milton Parker, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

he's right that barely anyone used the Publison apart from Parmegiani on 'Creation du Monde' (those things were expensive) -- the only other person who went to town with it, specifically as a live instrument, was Carl Stone, on 'Dong Il Jong' & 'Shibucho' - http://www.sukothai.com/v.2/CSMusic.html

Milton Parker, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

the tracks are in that interview that Branwell linked! (amazing btw)

example (crüt), Monday, 10 November 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

none of the tracks on syro were multi tracked into the computer , they were all recorded live to 2 track, which is kinda insane but the way i like it.

um wat

less paul (lukas), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link

i mean i know he made his loops and patches beforehand and the tracks do sound kinda loose and live BUT STILL

less paul (lukas), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link

the 3XLP is like $10.50 on US amazon right now

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link


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