Ariel Pink

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I guess I can see where people get the Zappa thing from - there are elements that make them sound like certain Zappa songs. Haven't listened enough to really identify too many specific examples but eg. Negativ Ed has the tubular bells, tempo, descending bass riffs and challenging vocals as Teenage Prostitute.

everything, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

yea that chart was dumb as fuck, about as dumb as the term "hypnogogic pop" and other bullshit wire-isms

hahah otm

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

Ariel Pink always made me think of Skafish. I love Ariel Pink and the first Skafish record is a masterpiece but Frank Zappa is just vile, I kind of like some of his records though

soref, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Bobby Conn rules and his band is awesome and AP is still a long way from anything as good as "The Golden Age".

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

I agree with that. But I also love Zappa.

everything, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

people do love this guy, me included. he'll forever be divisive in music circles but i really hadn't heard anything quite like those first albums when they first entered my world.

hipster bullshit, the son of a millionaire gastroenterologist slumming it in outsider clothes, a gadfly seeking attention etc

whatever you think of him he just is

hackshaw, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

The "Mom and dad are normal" section of Jell-O has a real strong '67-'68 Mothers of Invention vibe.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

Big differences is Zappa felt like he really sneered at his targets and held authority in general in contempt. AP doesn't seem that much into anything.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

amoral white sociopaths rarely are

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

He looks pretty into My Little Pony from what I can see.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

The Zappa comparisons have nothing to do with AP's songwriting, just his style.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

I feel the style thing to a degree but Zappa's vibe is so different, his sort of "I'm smarter than you" sarcasm and mocking thing, plus he was sort of hyper professional as a band leader, very savvy businessman etc, whereas Ariel's whole vibe is more erratic, fragile

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

Also tbh a lot of Ariel's supposed "enigmatic" behavior etc sometimes seems a lot like a dude that is on drugs than anything

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

there was a written testimony from the Flaming Lips sound man awhile ago warning festival organizers that Ariel and his band were pretty heavy heroin users. i can't seem to find it anymore though

hackshaw, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

ariel pink does drugs?

example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

yes, and his fans love him for it

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

damn... i'll be praying for him

example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

but srsly how many more minutes will we have with ariel? 6? maybe 7? *saliva pools on computer desk*

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

drugs

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

In September ariel tried reefer 4 the very first time
Now he's doing horse, it's June

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

I found him passed out in an alleyway once and when he groaned at me after I nudged him with my foot I was like "you....have some cool songs" and left

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

jesus christ

hackshaw, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

He looks pretty into My Little Pony from what I can see.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09

lol

the golden age is fuckin ace. Pitchfork gave it like a 2

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

FRECKLES FRECKLES WHERED U GET THOSE FRECKLE STENCILS DID U PAINT THEM ON? WHITE FRECKLES WHITE FRECKLES

phil phish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link

"drug-sick sadness" -p4k

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link

i mean the chorus in the first song on pom pom is "all over the world / cocaine man has got a Portabello girl"

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link

all the early stuff sounds like he was tweaked out on speed

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

Have a good question for Ariel? Post it here. I can't guarantee an answer but he will see it. Serious questions only.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:00 (nine years ago) link

How will your songwriting evolve in the wake of #gamergate?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

Serious question: What is the refrain of "Every Night I Die at Miyagis" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alD4uGj6rQ

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link

Can't you just google the lyrics?

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 30 October 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link

Ask him if he has any plans to do a visual album. I loved loved loved those early AP music videos - the ones with the retro VHS look before it got all super popular. It would be cool to have a DVD of AP videos.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 October 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link

Can't you just google the lyrics?

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:02 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's all conjecture, house arrest doesn't have a lyric sheet. even the acoustic version from npr, it's impossible to hear what he says after "off in the world" ... "the girl's a jerk" ? "the girls adjourn" ?

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

I would like to know what Ariel Pink is reading and what he thinks of it.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link

he's reading twitter

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:46 (nine years ago) link

Ariel is there a deep meaning behind schnitzel boogie or are you just a dumbass junkie troll riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave of randomly encountered adoration by listeners eager for even more music that sounds warm and psychedelic and lo-fi-ish as if we don't have enough of that bye

and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

Serious question: when will you appear on Red Eye again?

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link

Also, I'm surprised AP's band are serious heroin users, they seem like the classic hapless backing band that has to put up with an insane and irresponsible bandleader, and all the while remain totally professional and poker-faced.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link

Do you hang out with Kurt Heasley often?

Evan, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

no surprise about the heroin and other drug use, i thought this was already well-documented

marcos, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link

feel like heard something about giant ziplock bags full of weed or something too, i could be wrong.

marcos, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link

tbf though i kind of assume most musicians smoke a lot of weed

marcos, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link

Friend of a friend helped organize a show with AP in Brooklyn three or four years ago. He demanded the guarantee up front or something, in cash. It was about 5k. They wrapped each stack with a ribbon so there would be no dispute. Naturally, next day, Pink harangues them, saying he was shorted. Supposedly spent it all on meth and I guess heroin.

Pentenema Karten, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

I don't really get a heroin vibe from his music though, it sounds very speedy to me, too.

Pentenema Karten, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

Did an A/B with the last album he made, man the new one is SO MUCH BETTER. Better mixing, better melodies, better songwriting. There were always weak spots on his records cos there seemed to be a lot of information going on. It's ironic that he goes ahead and does a double album and it is the tightest, most well-crafted thing he has done yet!

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

i like "put your number in my phone" a lot more than black ballerina

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

I don't really get a heroin vibe from his music though, it sounds very speedy to me, too.

Thanks for the laugh.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 30 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

no thank you RT

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

the second half of Schnitzel Boogie actually does resemble a nod

Pentenema Karten, Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

n/p u2

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 30 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link


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