stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

i know! its really handy, i've actually done that to prune even when i'm sitting at a computer

lol

I wish bookmark links didn't have showall=true by default - opening up a big thread via a link to an early post leads to browser meltdown.

the search function seems to have trouble parsing double quotation marks, fyi.

for instance, try searching for thread Donald Fagen, "Sunken Condos" (2012).

these search terms are successful:

sunken

these search terms are not successful:

"donald fagen sunken condos 2012"
"donald fagen sunken"
condos
condos"
"sunken condos"
"condos" 2012"

in general, if a word in a thread title or post is bounded to the right by a" double" "quotation" 'mark", it won't show up in the search results for that particular word. and if a string of words in a thread title or post is partly quoted and partly unquoted, it won't show up in the search results for that particular string unless the search inquiry reproduces the post's typography (w/r/t quotation marks) precisely.

...or something like that. I notice that the problem only seems to affect posts from about 2006 onwards. for example, just about every year since 2004 there has been a detrius thread with the exact same formatting in the title:

This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2004 (started by Eric H. (Eric H.) on board I Love Everything on Dec 2, 2004)

This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2005 (started by Eric H. (Eric H.) on board I Love Everything on Dec 2, 2005)

This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2007 (started by Eric H. on board I Love Everything on Nov 14, 2007)

This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2008 (started by Eric H. on board I Love Everything on Nov 11, 2008)

the search term "detrius" (with or without quotes) pulls up all detrius threads from 2004 onwards. but the search term "end of the year cinema" only pulls up the 2004 and 2005 threads.

tldr double quotes are problematic for the ilx search function. I just thought I should point out this issue.

ya I have noticed that for years, prob shoulda said something too

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Il_progioniero_personale.JPG/1280px-Il_progioniero_personale.JPG

test post:

ijjjjjjj

zjjjjjjj"

ejjjjjjj"

"fjjjjjjj"

pjjjjj "djjjjj gjjjjjjj cjjjjj" yjjjjjjjj

bjjjjj "mjjjjjjjjjjj" xjjjjjj

"tjjjjjj "qjjjjjj rjjjjjj cjjjjj" kjjjjj "ujjjjj ojjjjjjjj"

(it will take a few minutes for this post to be indexed, but then you can search for those terms in various ways and see what works and what doesn't)

googling "site:www.ilxor.com (search terms)" is p much the only way I search ilx these days

technically we could sidestep the issue from now on by unilaterally agreeing to only use British-style 'single quotes', but I find this be a completely un("USA! USA! USA!")acceptable solution.

stet come to slack

google only works so well though, xpost. for one thing it doesn't allow you to search for individual posts (you can use google to find threads that mention both Ron Sexsmith and Devendra Banhart, but you'll have to sort through a lot of noise if you're only interested in a particular post that mention both of those gentlemen)

on the other hand the ilx search function doesn't permit thread-wide searches, which is a limitation of its own.

Newspapers only use single quotes in the headers too.

Ugh slack is the worst. Send me an invite

msg me your email

it;s awful

hi, I have a problem that only comes up on my Android phone. When I log into ILX in the Android Chrome browser, my Bookmarks do not sync with any other browser/device, so it looks like I have a million threads that I haven't read. Can't figure out how to get it synced up with my actual ILX activity. I haven't ever had this problem on any other browser or any other device. Is it a cookies issue?

caek "stet" at this site dot com does the trick.

Moodles: someone else mentioned that, but I can't think why it would be. Bookmarks are stored server-side against your user account.

cn i have an ilxor dot com email addr plz

tilde.club before it was cool

maybe like a "see last 30" or 50 or whatever threads that have been updated instead of just "updated within the last <time> ago". This would be useful for browsing boards that don't have a lot of active threads

Yeah I've already done that. I think it'll do the last 200 or so. I just haven't deployed it.

cool!

Yeah, neat! I tried to browse old Aeon Flux Top Level threads and couldn't even find out how to view them

My trick has been to search for "a" (no quotation marks) in thread titles for the board in question.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/RecentQuestionsControllerServlet?boardid=59&offset=0

nice

I started one as an into to android programming until I realised how much work it was going to be and how much easier it would be just to change the stylesheet to alleviate all my niggles - stuff like making the bookmark link bigger and easier to hit, fixing the tiny text box and menus...

I'm probably biting off more than I can chew but let's say I wanted to do this ... pointer to get started? like for example, is there a way to get an output format other than html?

?xml=true...

ty!

anything special with auth?

(if I'm asking dumb questions that are answered somewhere already, please let me know)

i don't think there was anything special with login. i appear to be using plain text POST requests, albeit to an odd page.

use wireshark or something to grab a login request from your browser and it should be obvious (LoginControllerServlet, j_security_check). i'm not entirely sure what i did here, lots of commented out code...

aight

Login is a right pain in the ass. There are three different things you have to do, depending on whether you just want to sign in, want to add a post, or want to bookmark.

Suggest you start with logged-out functionality first, as it all works exactly the same whether or not you are logged in, in terms of displaying the boards and loading the threads. If you get all that done then you'll know you're going to get somewhere and it'll be worth considering the auth pain. I'll send you the zing code to help if you get that far.

As for the API, start with the "mobile device interface" link on the front page. For each of those URLs, just remove the ?stylesheet=mobile.xsl to get plain XML.

hey lookit that, didn't know about that link

whatever it's the web it's irrelevant, AAAAAPS

maybe a "view in context" link for search results which takes you to a page with the previous 10 and next 10 posts

http://ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?xml=true&boardid=41 is :( for me

oh i see it's just spitting out a character that browser XML parsers don't like. who cares.

it breaks zing

what are you using that feed for lukas?

I am slowly plugging away on this Android app

You know the problem I had a couple of years ago, the last time I changed my phone? It's back with my new phone.

It keeps a completely different state to every other login on the same account. Bookmarks not updating but only on this device.

Last time it got fixed because there was a phone fault and I replaced the device itself. Not sure they'll accept "ILX doesn't update properly" as a defect this time.

Okay, I now have an Android app that does All The Things that you can do logged-out. Want to add a couple things, like starring boards a la Zing Touch, but it's probably worth having other people look at this now. It is, uh, very reminiscent of Zing, except buggier and not as pretty.

Anybody have an Android device and willing to take it for a spin?

apk me bro

Sure, I will.

I also fixed said problem above this weekend finally, by doing maybe the 10th cache clear since I got the phone. Just weird.

theporouscity.com/app-release.apk

or http://theporouscity.com/app-release.apk

you'll have to have enabled apps from unknown sources in settings -> security

other things not finished: name, icon

this is really nice!! perfectly happy with how it looks, minimal and loads super fast just like ilx should be. plz never to change font to century gothic or w/e

havent found a trace of a bug yet. will definitely use once login happens (which i'm sure involves all the really hard stuff)

haha also you can keep 'flagging' too

pull-to-refresh would be a good addition