Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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who are the people who led the charge against anita sarkeesian before this gg bullshit had a name?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdIHK8O5yo

warning: anglo cheeky affect, gross shit. kinda funny tho

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

xp

yeah but their crusade is not about that type of actual industry capture at all, it's about uncovering the "vast SJW conspiracy"

anonanon, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

yes exactly

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

have we done davis aurini's men's rights / martial arts short movie itt yet? it's incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSGc2ylZe4

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

oh... oh my god

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

tommy wiseau would weep

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

made with a $10k grant from the canadian government. thx canada!

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

i'm sure the "gaming press" is "corrupt" (no shots to anyone present) in that, to my eyes, it has the same relationship to the games industry that fashion mags to the clothing industry or car mags to the auto industry. there's a thin slice of good writing and history and industry investigation and a huge block of heycheckitout PR

seriously what the fuck do people want? y'all motherfuckers love to see new screenshots, new little bits of info, new trailers, etc etc, that's what YOU FUCKING CLICK okay? So sorry there's no way to dress up like a janitor and sneak into a company and steal a build...

number two, and people don't want to hear this but it's sometimes really fucking irresponsible to write off a game based on a preview...alien isolation looked liked a 10/10 in the months running up, turned out somewhat disappointing.....uncharted, on my honor, looked like a FUCKING MESS the E3 prior to release....the last deus ex which turned out pretty cool look like actual feces when we saw it...

the fact is that games are fucking super complicated and some games that look great early never develop, some games look like a hot mess and they throw 700 ppl on them in the last 6 months and they turn out great!

you can talk about fundamental probz or concerns with design, and possible technical shit that may be a concern of not getting fixed, but it's hard, they can implement some new physics on something or new textures or new camera shit and it can break a whole bunch of stuff.....

so i'm sorry but i see ppl say this shit a lot and in my experience it's good to express concerns about stuff that could be issues moving forward but it's honestly hard to tell how shit turns out IMO.

if anyone could show me a form of entertainment journalism that's ever been PRIMARILY investigative i'd love to see it

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I know this is getting stale at this point but still lolled

https://twitter.com/caseyjohnston/status/524963580983390208

anonanon, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

I got to "Abuser, abused: two sides of the same coin" and had to stop watching

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

also can I say what I want from gaming journalism is pretty much what I've gotten from PC Gamer, Edge and Game Informer; articles about games, reviews that describe the gameplay and storylines if necessary, a shit-ton of screenshots, and a list of release dates

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

haha, that's exactly where I stopped x-post.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

hey ums i think i came off a little too harsh and i want to reiterate that i have immense respect for you and enjoy your work

i put "corrupt" in scare quotes because i think that yeah an enthusiast or entertainment press is just naturally, inevitably going to have a different relationship to the industry it covers than general journalism will to general industry. and that's fine! the analogies of fashion and car mags weren't meant to be damning: you pick them up because you want to look at clothes or cars.

what they charge as corruption (esp in the indie scene) is not that at all. they're treating it like they've just discovered that pravda is run by the comintern or something.

anyway, sorry

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Next Gen used to be my shit

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

actually PC Gamer also had a hardware column that used to be fantastic until they promoted the dude who wrote it to EiC

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

no worries goole

it's just like gamers say they want "investigative journalism" but they really want angry blogs about how some game isn't in 1080p

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

It actually seems like gamergaters have a pretty coherent position -- using money/advertising to gain favorable coverage is ok, even encouraged, it's only using "sexual charms" that is corrupt

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

=(

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

the only context under which "investigative gaming journalism" makes sense is if someone actually uncovers an indoctrination plot where someone is using a shooting game to train its players to become more efficient killers, and well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army#Reception

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

xp: well that meme was fun while it lasted

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Dan, The Last Starfighter is not a true story

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Just checking to make sure the picture of IT in the sewage drain has already been captioned with 'Actually, it's about...'

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Actually, it's about 1080p

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah the point here is that focused mags are inherently "in bed" with the industry they cover (what up guitar magazines), what these fucksticks dont seem to realize is that its always been that way, and it isnt a problem per se. this whole ethics in journo crap is a bunch of ignorant dudes getting rope a doped by outside right wing woman hating shitheels that convince them that their little special world is under attack. ive got a whole conspiratorial swing here that wonders if koch brother style operators are standing by to mobilize low info voters into sandbagging womens issues for years because feminazis are stealing their precious RTS man club.

Ass Tchotchke! (jjjusten), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

Someone throw some cash at me, I'll do some objective videogame reviews.

"This game is 1.1 GB in size, which is 300 MB larger than its predecessor."

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

^ But are these numbers in base 2 or base 10? Is DJP actually a biased Mac gamer?

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-90-second-guide-to-determine-if-your-internet-cause-bs/
1817 comments; don't read any of them
i found this because i had the thought "what does seanbaby think about gamergate?" i had that thought. time for a break

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

just look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate_controversy

don't actually

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

xp Late to the party I'm afraid, Dan.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

is that one of their new sites?

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

Our mission is to bring you the most objective video game reviews on the Internet.

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caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

bonkers

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

http://www.objectivegamereviews.com/titanfall-review/

is this a joke

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

omfg

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

uuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://www.objectivegamereviews.com/anne-hathaway-erotic-mouthscape-review/

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

reads like a 9

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Surprised nobody's come up with objectivepitchforkreviews.com yet

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Paging David Shapiro

, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

http://www.objectivegamereviews.com/bioshock-infinite-review/

"In 1857, George Fitzhugh argued that slavery should not be abolished..."

caucasity and the sundance kid (goole), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

The graphics in BioShock Infinite are in a realistic style, with the exception of the woman Booker aims to retrieve, Elizabeth, who has eyes that are larger than actual eyes.

I'm dying

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

haha yes that one jumped off the page

Nhex, Monday, 27 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

yeah even the fig leaf of "ethics" has nothing to do with "how dare these pixel-stained wretches accept free hors d'oeuvres at the Activision party" and everything to do with "how dare these pixel-stained wretches review cultural artifacts as artifacts of culture"

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 27 October 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

I just realized that Objective Game Reviews tags all of its reviews with the eventual score so there is literally no reason to read any of their reviews aside from lols

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Monday, 27 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

not to just link these guys all the time, but this is still an ultimate classic and more relevant every day: http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/39.html

Game developers have known the answer to the first question since the early 1980's: ammo and health can be hidden inside crates or sometimes barrels. As often happens, the answer to the second question was hidden in plain sight within the answer to the first. All games contain crates, therefore all games can be judged empirically on those crates.

Once we came up with that insight, the actual formula for the world's first completely unbiased review methodology was a trivial matter of applying our many hours spent watching actors portray scientists on television to our hatred of crates. Games can be rated and compared based on the shortest amount of time it takes a player to reach the first crate, which represents the point where the developers ran out of ideas.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link

The music in Titanfall is in an orchestral style.

am0n, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

B:I review does not state that it takes place in an alternate history, just objective, historically accurate "1912".

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 27 October 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Sorry if this was already clear to everyone but based on the Subjective Reviewer of the Month feature and their choice of interviewees I'm very confident that the rest of the site is indeed satire.

Iain Mew (if), Monday, 27 October 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

Matt Binder ‏@MattBinder 18m18 minutes ago
.@realmattforney lmao. Matt Forney, the "publisher" of Matt Forney dot com is you, Matt Forney https://twitter.com/realmattforney/status/526719995376435202

Matt Binder ‏@MattBinder 16m16 minutes ago
what is it with these guys pretending their own personal website is some huge conglomerate https://twitter.com/mattbinder/status/524339232861859841

comically grandiose

lag∞n, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

like at least the one guy pretending his website is more than just him had the sense to not just name it his own name

lag∞n, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link


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