totally krossed up

the running out of bounds is very primo dont get me wrong

I think a stepback jumper is a pretty good outcome esp if they tried to put someone bigger on the ball (like MJ on AI)

― 龜, Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stepback j is basically a shot anyone can get any time

Maybe but for example Steph is very good at this and he's always perfectly balanced after the cross xp

I think good handlers don't drive after the cross because they are afraid of the shotblocker (unless you're AI)

Help defense is really good in the NBA these days too

good elements i can agree to those. making the shot def important

steph is different cause stepbacks are good shots for him

In conclusion all I want of a good cross is for the move to be beautiful

bledsoe gets a really really wide open three there, he just missed it, he is mortal

one of my favs didn't result in a stumble but resulted in stepping into a spot where he could get the shot up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkhwc5YZfw

its a wide open three but its a harder shot than a catch a shoot wide open three or even a wide open pull up three

Yeah Steph has my favorite handle in the league rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlkUYYt3D0E

9/10

hah GP's teeth out smile is so great, love that reaction

stephs handle is very good but what makes it look great is that you have to guard his shot so tightly, like his ball skills arent in the same conversation as chris pauls

Yeah obv if you have to play a guy tight like Steph to protect the shot you're gonna get shook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFAOnktqmls

7.7/10

shook ones part 30 xp

CP3 actually kinda reminds me of Nash in the way that he can just sort of maintain a very steady speed w/ the ball while changing direction

yeah paul and nash (rip) are on another level imho just like psychologically they understand how to control the defense w their dribble

Yeah Nash never had a sprint like Rose but he never had to go slow either so in the average he was very fast

timmy hardaway has at least five in here that are 8.5/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0HRPIu02Xo

Rose has an okay handle but if you give him an inch he turns on the jets

The UTEP two step is like my 2nd favorite move all time (after AI's cross)

yeah hardaways the crossover og xp

nash could just work the court and get to whatever position he wanted in the key and then everyone else would either cut or find an open spot outside the arc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txKdnGPmHVo

8.5 / 10

Well my #1 crossover of all time (like a lot of folks) is AI on MJ which led to a stepback jumper

― 龜, Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:51 PM (18 minutes ago)

smgdmfh

rose kinda sloppy with the handle but yeah the first step is (was) unreal

not only was that not even that great a crossover, if you're gonna have MJ be part of your all-time best cross, at least choose his shot over russell

Oh cool, k3v has an opinion

MJ pushed off Russell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thank you for the challop though, it has been filed in the Challop Archives

ai over mj is very important for cultural reasons

AI got MJ twice on the same play and then drained the shot, GOAT

my biggest beef with a lot of AIs best moves was they looked like carrying to me.

Yeah refs had to basically start calling the carry after AI was in the league

Which imo is more a sign of how much AI influenced the game than a stain on aI

ai over mj is very important for cultural reasons

― lag∞n, Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah like AI was what, a rookie or a 2nd year when he did it (you can trace it because he hadn't started wearing cornrows yet) and MJ was in his prime

not sure how that wouldn't be in anyones top 10-15

if it were just two regular players no one wld be talking abt that play

right, but

Well it happened in 97

Think only TIMMAY had really done much advance work up to that point

Best part about AI's crossover was that it was always left right

Most players start w/ the dominant hand because it's easier & I think it's why they end up in stepback J's because it's hard to drive w/ the non dominant hand

AI tho made sure to end up on his dominant side and could get you with the jumper or the drive

yeah iverson def knew how to get to the basket w his crossover 5000%

Kinda wonder what teams were telling defenders tho, I never seen AI drive w/ his left

But his defenders kept on biting (RIP Antonio Daniels)

ai over mj is very important for cultural reasons

― lag∞n, Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:17 PM (25 minutes ago)

i agree but just as a crossover objectively it's good but not great. if you go by day's criteria it's a run of the mill cross (not to mention a blatant palm, my love for AI notwithstanding) and jordan's reaction isn't THAT bad

dayo's*

yeah jordan actually recovers to get a hand up on iversons shot

Well that's just how crazy MJ is tho