Eden Ahbez, Jack Parsons, and other LA kooks...

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More LA cult stuff from curbed. They also had a Jack Parsons article, but it doesn't cover any new ground.

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/10/ask_the_experts_why_does_los_angeles_attract_so_many_cults.php#more

nickn, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 06:42 (nine years ago) link

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/07/1958_1115_krishna_venta.jpg

Krishna Venta. After moving Venta started the WKFL (Wisdom, Knowledge, Faith and Love) cult in the 1940s out in Box Canyon on the Ventura/LA County border. WKFL was a relatively public cult and helped out folks after earthquakes, floods, even a plane crash. Cult members simply had to follow the 10 Commandments and Venta's teachings of “Love one. Love ye on another. Love all. Serve ye one another.” Venta eventually extended his "love all" teachings to other member's wives and in 1958 two jealous ex-members set off a bomb killing Venta and nine others.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/files/1958_1211_cover.jpg

Selected links:
http://framework.latimes.com/2011/01/28/krishna-venta-killed-bombing/#/6
http://mkv-archives.blogspot.com/
http://krishnaventa.blogspot.com

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 24 October 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

The fuck

http://boingboing.net/2014/10/28/ridley-scott-to-produce-minise.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link

I mean GREAT but of all things.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link

... Pressed on vinyl for the first time since the time of these advertisements, Kohoutek and Savage Sons of Yahowa represent two sides of the Source Family sound - one, Father jamming with The Spirit of '76 (later, Yahowa13) in a deep, extended musical meditation; and two, the younger boys on their own, playing without Yahowa and yet with his spirit inside them as they lay down a series of short rock songs with Electron fronting them and doing the singing...These essential pieces of Source lore - sold in The Source restaurant back in the day - will now be available in deluxe editions, with all original inserts
xpost Drag City releases 11-18. Mentioned again because whatever else they did, they could play (restaurant wasn't bad either, I'm told).

dow, Sunday, 2 November 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

If you've read this far then you should go directly to the Califia's Children blog
http://califias.blogspot.com/

It's written by the same author who wrote Mysterious California years ago

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 April 2015 06:59 (nine years ago) link

wow great find

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link

Is that Erik Davis?

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 3 April 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

ooh this looks great, thx elvis

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

You guys should see my friend Laura's movie:
http://www.laurakraning.com/devilsgate.html

maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Friday, 3 April 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

oooh cool

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 April 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link

Is that Erik Davis?

Mike Marinacci. Mysterious California came out in 1988 long before all the Weird State books. Still kept my copy.

Long podcast interview with him here:
http://radiomisterioso.com/2015/02/24/mike-marinacci-crazy-california-cults/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 April 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link

i have been reading this blog literally ALL day

so into it!!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 April 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Good interview with Michelle Goldberg, author of The Goddess Pose, new bio of Indira Devi, a stateless Russian ex-prisoner of the Cheka who became a pioneering Hollywood yogi, also w feminist elements in her holistic approach: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/06/01/411202468/those-yoga-poses-may-not-be-ancient-after-all-and-maybe-thats-ok (followed by discussion of recent Goldberg article about being "a proud non-breeder who changed my mind," but mostly about Indira Devi)

dow, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

After "The Lottery" was published, Shirley Jackson got a letter. "It came, naturally enough, from Los Angeles:"
http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/on-fans-and-fan-mail

dow, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

An expanded version of MOCA's Cameron exhibition is on display in NYC for a couple more weeks: http://deitch.nyc (good hi-res scans there too)

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

The Source miniseries produced by Todd Haynes.

http://www.avclub.com/article/todd-haynes-planning-tv-series-about-70s-rock-cult-219585

nickn, Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

oooh

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

LA kooks of a different stripe: five families, implosive insiders, some escapees,
like the author (oral historian who co-wrote/assembled Edie, w George Plimpton)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/21/books/review/west-of-eden-by-jean-stein.html?em_pos=large&emc=edit_bk_20160219&nl=bookreview&nlid=65074007

dow, Saturday, 20 February 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link

This is a lead review from NYTimes Book Review eweekly, with lots of room, well-used.

dow, Saturday, 20 February 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

Posted here not at all for lols, more like "ohhhhh shitttt", also hoping this isn't going to turn into the Scientology Salvation From "Psychiatry" bit, if this is the Kubrick daughter who made a reputedly worthy doc about her dad but then seemingly disappeared into the Church:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stanley-kubricks-daughter-raising-funds-aid-ill-actress-shelley-duvall-948882?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

dow, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

erp, just this:
The location listed on Vivian Kubrick’s Go Fund Me page for Duvall is Clearwater, FL. Neither Kubrick nor Duvall lives in Clearwater; it is, however, the location of The Church of Scientology’s business operations.

http://horrorfreaknews.com/things-need-know-donating-vivian-kubricks-fund-shelley-duvall/13449

dow, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Curbed's list of So Cal communes through the ages.

https://la.curbed.com/maps/communes-history-map

nickn, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 03:45 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

i just finished "Strange Angel: The Otherwordly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons". it was pretty amazing. it's kind of weird how the rocket revolution happened, feels a lot similar to the Silicon Valley story: eccentric engineers taking drugs and making future tech in the desert of California.

there really are two stories here: 1) the evolution of Rocket Science from ridicule-worthy impossibility to world-changing reality and 2) the typically tumultuous Pasadena occult scene. the first takes place in and around California, Parson and his crew of "Suicide Squad" engineers birthing this new science in the face of a disbelieving status quo, informed by the embryonic sci fi (at first called "scientifiction" lol) scene that they were also a part of. the second is a whirlwind of personalities. Parsons himself was quite high in the OTO, purchasing lodging for the group, hosting rituals, get-togethers, etc., dealing with Crowley through letters, etc. when famed occultist Marjorie Cameron crosses his path, he is convinced she is BABALON, purposefully summoned by magical rituals.

at one point L. Ron Hubbard swoops in and starts dating Parsons's wife and the two of them run off to Florida. they convince Parsons to lend them $10,000 for a scheme to buy several yachts and re-sell them for a profit. of course Hubbard tries to take off with the ships and his money. he more or less gets away with it. Hubbard comes across as another fringe figure, flitting on the edges of various scenes. he is writing for the sci fi club, he is hanging out with the OTO. it is weirdly ironic that he ended up being a better swindler than Crowley, and the OTO kind of languished in obscurity scrounging for donations with a few dozen followers, meanwhile Scientology becomes a huge worldwide hit that makes him rich. so bizarre.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

yeah Parsons whole story is crazy. the stuff about his death & tapes they found is also O_o

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

Crowley's take at the time

"Apparently Parsons or Hubbard or somebody is producing a Moonchild. I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts."

Number None, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

there's a funny part with Crowley in this book. Parson's predecessor at the OTO Wilfred Smith was becoming too much too handle. he recieved a letter saying that Crowley had drawn up a bunch of charts and discovered that Smith was a god incarnate, that he should abandon the church and his worldly possessions, and go live in the desert to seek enlightenment or some such nonsense. lol.

it was heartbreaking to reach the post war years. all these scientists struggled for decades and then helped the US win the war and now they were all under investigation for being communists. they were blacklisted and had their careers ruined while they had to watch war criminal Nazi scientists invited with open arms to take their place in the same US rocket programs they had pioneered.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 November 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

Parsons co-founded a company called Allied Enterprises with Hubbard and Sara, into which Parsons invested his life savings of $20,970. Hubbard suggested that with this money they travel to Miami to purchase three yachts, which they would then sail through the Panama Canal to the West Coast, where they could sell them on for a profit. Parsons agreed, but many of his friends thought it was a bad idea. Hubbard had secretly requested permission from the U.S. Navy to sail to China and South and Central America on a mission to "collect writing material"; his real plans were for a world cruise.

Left "flat broke" by this defrauding, Parsons was incensed when he discovered that Hubbard and Sara had left for Miami with $10,000 of the money; he suspected a scam but was placated by a telephone call from Hubbard and agreed to remain business partners. When Crowley, in a telegram to Germer, dismissed Parsons as a "weak fool" and victim to Hubbard and Sara's obvious confidence trick, Parsons changed his mind, flew to Miami and placed a temporary injunction and restraining order on them.

Upon tracking them down to a harbor in County Causeway, Parsons discovered that the couple had purchased three yachts as planned; they tried to flee aboard one but hit a squall and were forced to return to port. Parsons was convinced that he had brought them to shore through a lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram containing an astrological, geomantic invocation of Bartzabel—a vengeful spirit of Mars.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link

they really need to make a docu drama of this. picture this guy in a hotel in Miami drawing magic symbols on the wall while L. Ron Hubbard is escaping to yacht rock. Magickal Miami Vice.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

otm

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

...Adam I think your wish came true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfFNRKjgaI

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

that looks rad

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

Never watched that but was curious.

Came to post that this new book might be of interest on this thread, although I already mentioned on ThReads Must Roll, hope I'm not spamming.
https://nevalalee.wordpress.com/about-astounding/

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

Ha, I just bought that book a couple days ago. There's an excerpt here: https://longreads.com/2018/10/23/the-dawn-of-dianetics-l-ron-hubbard-john-w-campbell-and-the-origins-of-scientology/

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link

But of course!

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:01 (five years ago) link

In fact, I debated with myself whether to post on this thread or on I Am Reading A Novel That Seems To Be Something That Elvis Telecom Would Like

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

wow

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

Mentioned by Elvis T above in 2014, but new article with pictures.

nickn, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 03:11 (five years ago) link

lotta weirdass shit happened around those Santa Susana mountains man

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

lotta weirdass shit happened around those Santa Susana mountains man

Oh hell yes... https://data.nbcstations.com/national/KNBC/la-nuclear-secret/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:21 (four years ago) link

that is interesting

Dan S, Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

Kurt Braunholer did a podcast years ago where he blindfolded a guest & took them to an obscure location somewhere around LA - in one of the eps he took a guest to this site & it blew my mind (no pun intended) that it existed

Lotsa crazy shit up there

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:47 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

A 24 min talk on a book. Offered by the Autry Museum in LA, but I haven't listened to it.

Bohemians West: Free Love, Family, and Radicals in Twentieth Century America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5T4t-Xx_6M

nickn, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Erik Davis' latest email looks at Eden Ahbez's Dharmaland https://www.burningshore.com/p/dharmalands

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 August 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link

From 1948...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVpj0K6RO0

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 August 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link

Cool, thanks.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link


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