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After creating a demo edit for playing out at gigs earlier in the year and
receiving a thumbs up and some prime time airplay from XFM DJ and Remix
guru Eddy Temple-Morris, GO4 guitarist Andy Gill (who heard Eddy's show)
put their recently re-recorded version my way, for an official remix.

The band have been excited enough with the GHP mix to release it as the
b-side of their next single (an imminent 7-inch re-release of 'To Hell With Poverty') and it will also be on the new Gang Of Four album due at the end
of August on V2

The new Gang Of Four album (provisionally titled 'The Embarrassment Of Paleface') will be a 2 CD release.
The first being newly re-recorded selections from their first 3 albums and the second CD is a collection of new remixes
by artists who have been influenced over the years by GO4.
Alongside the Go Home Productions mix, there will be remixes by No Doubt / Beck / Moby / Massive Attack /
The Futureheads / Bloc Party / Hot Hot Heat / Yeah Yeah Yeahs / Ladytron / Dandy Warhols and more tbc.

Augé, Marc. Non-Places: Introduction to an Anthropology of Supermodernity. Trans. John Howe. London
and New York: Verso, 1995.
Bentham, Jeremy. Panopticon: or, The inspection-house. Dublin: Thomas Byrne, 1791.
Foucault, Michel. Discipline and Punish and The Order of Things, excerpted in Julie Rivkin and Michael
Ryan, eds. Literary Theory: An Anthology. Oxford: Blackwell, 1998.
Pascoe, David. Airspaces. London: Reaktion Books, 2001.

Online sources

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Terminal Highlights:
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ART: Includes 28 ceramic balustrades, bronze statue of Jeppesen, "Spirit of the People" exhibit.

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With a 35% chance to hit, is it proper play to push every time you have such a draw with an unpaired board, providing you expect at least 2 callers? It seems like you'd see a lot of variance with this approach (65% of the time, you're dropping your stack), but long term, is this a g00t play? What about pushing when you're in the same situation, with a stack that's just a bit less than the size of the pot? If you take it down, you're golden; if you get any callers, you have the odds on your side.

Thoughts?

On a related note...Can a play be correct and make money for both players involved? Ex. I have a flush draw and you have a set. I push; you call. If 35% of the time, I make more than double my bet, it's a winning play for me. But if you make more than double the bet 65% of the time, it's even more of a winner for you. So who's the loser? The pot?
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New postPosted: Fri, 17 Jun 2005, 6:56am Post subject: Reply with quote
Semi bluff.

The added equity of winning the pot with the all in raise on the flop is what makes this a winning play. I make this play sometimes, but usually only when I have something in addition to my flush draw, such as middle or bottom pair or a gutshot. Having 13 or 14 outs on the flop actually makes you a favourite a lot of the time when you do get called. That makes this play a big money winner.
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New postPosted: Fri, 17 Jun 2005, 12:45pm Post subject: Reply with quote
people can push all in on me with their flush draws all they want, i'll call with a set everytime.

its a winning move if you can mostly get folds and pick up the pot there.. and if your called you have outs. doyle recommends it in his book, but i dont play at high a enough level for people to respect raises.
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New postPosted: Fri, 17 Jun 2005, 12:51pm Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not sure about the EV on this one, but it's pretty damn close to dead on 0. It's a situational play really, let's say you had a read which led you to the assumption that your opponent had a big hand and will call any bet on the flop and beat you 65% of the time, do you push? Or let's say your table is a bunch of TPs who will fold fold fold most of the time even in a pot that has been raised preflop. Do you push there?

It's a very very marginal play, I can't tell which one is right

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