Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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yeah i gotta say this shitshow is a small-but-significant (and growing) part of me wanting to give up on this activity altogether

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0FmdMHCIAAJEt6.png

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

I kind of wanted to check out the new WoW expansion just to see how the game's changed but honestly fuck going back into that world with random ppl I don't know

also holy shit

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

"It's not surprising that people brought up consuming plots about ludicrous, adolescent conspiracy theories would fall for one in real life"....and it was a joke but the more I think about it, this sort of reactionary conservatism is really a part of games....the lone man standing up to "oppression" through violence, the conspiracies on top of conspiracies, the terrible machismo and casual sexism, racism and homophobia in online gaming

― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dont really feel like its fair to even categorize this as gaming culture tho its so america 2014, anything thats not overtly opposed to that sort of thing is prob gonna have a significant contingent of it

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

#imwitchu

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

the cartoonish over the top faux-masculinity (enough qualifiers?) of gamers almost seems like an over-reaction by a subset of young men who can't or don't want to aspire to more traditional forms of masculinity. attack games, particularly the way in which they make this alternative viable, then you attack a very fragile ego prop.

ryan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

well i wasn't even gonna link this to give it any air but of course polygon topped so here goes....the "perfect" game for these last couple weeks, fucking christ

http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/16/6988687/the-worst-trailer-of-the-year-revels-in-slaughtering-innocents

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

betrayed her own righteous principles re:consent

the whole thing hinges on the idea that he claims she had this very particular stance and that people can't be fallible when it comes to their own ideas

like, if he's trying to say she had nonconsensual (by their shared definition, not necessarily anyone else's) sex with him because she was cheating, that still wouldn't mean her social justice stances are all garbage, it means that you're reading things in an amazingly black-and-white way with no nuance

⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

my main takeaway from all of this is that games, like most things, are a perfectly fine hobby as long as you aren't a worthless piece of shit about them

secondary takeaway is that it would be very difficult for me to give up games entirely but if that was the price I had to pay to punitively punish all of these horrific dumbfucks, so be it

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/6kWH3fl.png

the only way i like to slaughter innocents

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

damn in my head i can hear my lousy PC speaker make the 'smash building' noises right now

marcos, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link

xxp my experience is that MMOs (and strategy games even moreso) are a somewhat separate sphere where these people exist in fewer numbers and/or milder forms. i've definitely created a mental connection between gamergaters and AAA studio games (especially shooters), maybe falsely, but the behavior on display throughout this whole ordeal is much more extreme than anything i ever encounter as a gamer

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

derek mad smart if u ask me

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/522829362597752834

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

xp: Whereas in my experience, the GamerGate chatter is very much like what you'd see in every WoW zone on the general chat channel, to the point where it was SOP in our guild to unsubscribe to general whenever you entered a new zone (and ESPECIALLY in hub cities).

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

can we go bump some other threads with cool new games and articles by women developers and critics about actual games, spending too much breath on this shit is bad for the humours

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

okay goole you have got to stop linking this shit, I'm going to have an aneurism from stifling alternating lols and screams

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

Wait...that was serious?

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

im dying

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

xp it's more of the same mindset that guy who started all this nonsense has "I’ve had to…keep it from splitting the earth in two"

give me a fucking break. what's the word for being insufferably self important and totally misguided at the same time?

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

cnn manages to make a more incoherent graphic than these goobers usually do

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/522831910343413761

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

lool

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

give me a fucking break. what's the word for being insufferably self important and totally misguided at the same time?

― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art),

a Republican.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

so much mspaint

https://twitter.com/BurntheBolo/status/522833234472620033

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/522828080097009664

Derek Smart is the most ironically-named person

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

some traditional gamers

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0FxelrCQAIozpJ.jpg

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

to bring our lil illuminati circle all the way around:

https://twitter.com/Reyeko_/status/522833063986749440

"psych"

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

he has also mocked atheism and obesity

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

sorry, couldn't resist posting that image. Can imagine people who actually don't know anything about this just being even more confused. "Hold on a minute, what do the arrows mean? what are online"trolls"?" etc. etc.

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

wow boycott gawker boycott max reed

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

ah wait scratch my last post, Smart is anti-GamerGate

circles within circles, man

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

wait he IS?

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

or IS he...

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

so while I might be mocking from an uninformed position, I really only have one counter-argument: lol

no problem. as long as we agree I'm more well-read than you.

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

lol i'm getting no twitter shine from this

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

i mean, thank god really

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

i for one want to hear what the nontraditional gamers have to say about all this

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

i cracked an Apple joke a while ago and some dingus clapped back, best not poke two cults in one day

xp

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

yeah i really ought to take advantage of these cultural shitstorms to raise my twitter profile

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

I've poked at GamerGate for a couple of weeks and only gotten a couple of nibbles off of it

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

and 'traditional gamers' makes me think more of the middle-aged dudes with huge beards who play tabletop RPGs at the game store

ciderpress, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

ive trolled atheists and gamergate and tbh i just ended up feeling bad about it almost immediately, some real sad people out there, also its too easy to be satisfying

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

if u want to do it tho the secret is to reply to one of their leaders tweets eg richard dawkins

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

this whole thread top to bottom needs to be put in a museum

https://twitter.com/LVX156/status/522789420370784256

goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

sincere thx to goole for all the twitter gems. i espouse all social media but enjoy observing assholes from a distance so this is p much win win for me

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

perfect punchline, goole

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

xp nah, that one was a waste of time tbqf

Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

jfc at "hatred"
chu otm
i need to quit thinking about #GAMERGATE for awhile, this shit is depressing

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

wait he IS?

― goole, Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:45 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

max reed is ismalic state pass it on

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

someone talk me out of tweeting the dude who started this shitstorm to ask him if he wishes he'd listened to his mother

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link


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