Village Voice Media being acquired by New Times very soon

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My money is on either angry art director or incompetent intern

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

It does have a slightly "break every design rule" quality to it, but not quite enough so to be "anti-aesthetic." It's weird to think someone actually went to the trouble to make that Statue of Liberty illustration -- wonder if it's modified clip art or something.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link

the sandwich one...

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

is it a drag SOL doing the Heisman?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/nyregion/village-voice-sold-to-peter-barbey-owner-of-a-pennsylvania-newspaper.html

Peter D. Barbey, through his investment company Black Walnut Holdings L.L.C., bought the paper from Voice Media Group, which owns a string of weeklies around the country.

The financial terms of the deal were not disclosed, and Mr. Barbey declined to discuss the details.

However, in an interview, he vowed to invest in the paper and once again make it relevant in the cultural life of New York City.

“I realize that The Voice has had a unique journalistic role in New York and the country as a whole,” Mr. Barbey, 58, said. “That deserves to survive and prosper.”

The paper, he said, was once an essential “voice of the arts and cultural community in New York.” While he will not take over full control of the paper until February, Mr. Barbey said he would focus first on bolstering its arts coverage — mainly by attracting top writers.

“Over the years it’s been known as a place that made writers’ reputations,” Mr. Barbey said. “If you were a good writer, you wanted to write for The Voice.”

“One of the biggest problems in media today is lack of attention to content,” he said. “Many publications have stripped their content.”

That will not happen under his watch, he said.

When asked about the financial resources he would devote to the paper, Mr. Barbey would not be specific but noted that his family’s wealth could be ascertained quickly through a Google search.

The Barbeys rank 48th on the Forbes list of America’s wealthiest families.

it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

hm
anybody got some perspective on this?

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2015/10/8579442/meet-peter-barbey-latest-owner-take-village-voice

Skeptics will abound, including some of those very Voice vets.

"You mean the Voice still exists?" Hoberman sniffed when asked for his thoughts on the sale. Seriously though: "Even if the new owners are inclined to spend money, they'll have a near impossible time restoring any credibility."

"Weeklies, accustomed to big reports without much of a time peg, seem to have had a particularly difficult transition to a mixed digital/print publishing model," Poynter Institute media analyst Rick Edmonds wrote on Monday. "Best case — Barbey will also infuse some money and editorial vitality into the Village Voice. But I wouldn’t look for a turnaround ... given how much the business base for the Voice and similar publications has deteriorated."

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

i feel like you'd have to be very VERY rich to actually sink enough money into the VV to turn it around and not worry about the losses. is he that rich?

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

yes
http://nypost.com/2015/10/12/pennsylvania-family-set-to-own-the-village-voice/

The Barbey family, the 48th richest in America, according to Forbes — with a net worth of $6.1 billion — derives most of its fortune from a 20 percent stake in apparel maker VF Corp., maker of Lee, Wrangler and North Face apparel.

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...
one month passes...

The Village Voice is ending its weekly print edition. End of a journalism era in New York City.

— Michael M. Grynbaum (@grynbaum) August 22, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

Village Voice ownership shutters paper, will continue it "as a brand" online and as "a host of new events, products and initiatives." https://t.co/HUu3C8yBXu

— Nick Pinto (@macfathom) August 22, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

oof

nomar, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

The Village Voice also published this. I feel reason #15, by @mgerber937, is one of the greatest jokes in history https://t.co/88NBsbMCt6 pic.twitter.com/bMLTEyi1SV

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 22, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

Yeah this is sad. Yoko used to take out these cool full page ads, a couple in the last year or so, with photos of her and John and lyrics to songs or other things and I wonder if she'll continue this online and I'd guess not

calstars, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

R.I.P.
http://gothamist.com/2018/08/31/village_voice_is_officially_dead.php

I, for one, wish/hope someone/somewhere picks up Pazz & Jop and continues it.

alpine static, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

"today is kind of a sucky day" jfc

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

its been a long goodbye but it still hurts

Hakim Bae's TMZ (s.clover), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

L.A. Weekly still creaking along w/me-first careerists sticking around for the new right-wing regime

omar little, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

dumb question, i guess: why doesn't some liberal billionaire buy up all the papers that need help, install good managers, and be a hero?

i realize it's hard to hemorrhage money forever, but some people can afford it. why not hire the right people and tell them "hey, lose as little money as you can, please, but i've got your back. and also keep tinkering with new methods and content and who knows maybe you'll hit on something that helps in a big way."

this is what i would do if i had the money.

alpine static, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

there's Jeff Bezos I guess

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

he said liberal

▫◌▫ (sic), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

tbh after the print ed shut, i never looked at it unless i saw a link to a piece.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

by that definition "liberal billionaire" is an oxymoron

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link

Wrote many times in the late '00s yet even with the superb editors who tightened my sentences (never forgot a PHONE line edit with Chuck Eddy in early 2006) there was already a sense in which the clock was ticking. I'm sorry I lived long enough to see this day.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

I'm amazed our two alt-weeklies have survived the shrinkage since they had to stop running sex work ads - the Dallas Observer is a shell that runs a scattering of local political news and reprints national stories (from New Times, I guess?), the FW Weekly is even smaller but pretty left-wing, they've been running stories from local DSA people every so often.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link

this is what i would do if i had the money.

also why you'll never be a billionaire tho

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link

I wrote a letter to the VV in the '90s about Public Enemy's homophobia (Flavor Flav's really), and someone phoned me to carefully line-edit that.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

I think it's safe to say that without the Village Voice I might never have achieved my dream of being a childless 37-year-old debt-ridden "critic's critic" with a niche social media presence and chronic knee pain RIP.

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) August 31, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

I care somewhat, not much. The end of the print run seemed much more historically significant. But the online version meant there was still Pazz & Jop, and without that, I'll literally lose my final motivation (following the end of my "freelance" "career" and the implosion of a college radio station where I had a show) to keep up with new music.

Pleasure? I guess I could try that.

clemenza, Friday, 31 August 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

wasn't sure which thread to bump, but...

I know it was only a shadow of itself over the last several years, but the actual demise of the Village Voice makes me very nostalgic

It was the print publication that I cared about above all others in the 80s and 90s. there were so many great writers who contributed to it

Dan S, Friday, 31 August 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

oh I see this thread has already been revived!

Dan S, Friday, 31 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

This last (hopefully just latest) owner proclaimed that he intended to bring back the pre-New Times glory days, but I later read that he'd invested in extremely expensive real estate, a palace in the Village/ Also he busted or greatly impaired the union (the Voice had its own union). So a capital drain, talent drain (I know several people who made a point of avoiding the place/brand after that, though they all needed/need the work).
I, for one, wish/hope someone/somewhere picks up Pazz & Jop and continues it.
Maybe a GoFundMe? Too much for a labor of love, also too much for noobs.

dow, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

Maybe most of all a credibility drain? Other activities showing what his real priorities were (dude might've been lying to himself, even).

dow, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

I was there when Nat Hentoff cleaned his office. They filled dumpsters. I took a bunch of Philip Roth books that were left out. I learned that I hate Philip Roth.

Yerac, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

VV died for me when Chuck E was fired, not sure I missed a lot

President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link

what would it really take to keep P&J going somewhere else?

- someone w/ time and/or $, plus motivation
- a platform
- VV's mailing list
- some way to tabulate

am i missing something major?

alpine static, Saturday, 1 September 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

revive jackin' pop

dyl, Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

But the online version meant there was still Pazz & Jop, and without that, I'll literally lose my final motivation to keep up with new music.

this is kind of astonishing to me

dyl, Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

I'm an astonishing person.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 September 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

Old too

The Great Atomic Power Ballad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 September 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

I listen to hours of music most days, often completely new-to-me, but still expect the ILX annual tracks poll to point me in new directions for songs, movements and artists more than anything else during the year. clemenza otm.

▫◌▫ (sic), Saturday, 1 September 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

Old too

That's it, dyl. I don't know how old you are, but, absent any professional obligations, I don't think it's that unusual to lose track of the plot in your mid-50s. Most everyone I know in my non-rock-critic life lost it in their early 20s. (I do get a lot of satisfaction out of putting together a year-end list with comments, though, so I'm just dumb enough to keep doing it for my homepage.)

clemenza, Sunday, 2 September 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

new music in the pop vein is generally not for me, i've heard enough. 90% of P&J was a mystery to me 10 years ago.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 September 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link

if they're so dead why do new articles keep showing up? admittedly they're all by the same person. and one of them's about jethro tull. stands to reason they'd finally get their due via dead voice.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

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