yeah i'd be more inclined to believe people who claim they still don't understand why some took offense if they at least grasped the sentence people took the most offense with. clue: it wasn't the one about how her first album was her best.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
or rather, i'd believe it was a failing on the offended's part some still don't get it
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
i guess i just don't get why so many people on social media feel it's their sworn duty to (often hyperbolically) police every instance of offensive language. i imagine it's exhausting.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
personally i'm cooler with what was once called the pc police than the dumb-asses who say shit that set off the alarms
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
esp when they don't apologize and instead complain about the pc police saying such mean things about them
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
well yeah, obv ariel pink is the asshole here. but the whole 24-hr-outrage cycle seems so unhelpful most of the time
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
asking people to be less offended by offensive comments strikes me as less helpful
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
i'm not asking anyone to do anything!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
cant wait til pom pom comes out so we can talk about his music
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
xpost
certainly not "be less offended"!
does all of ILX have reading comprehension difficulties lately or is it just a case of willful misreading in order to start an argument?
you're posting online that you find it unhelpful and that you're unsympathetic to "people on social media (who) feel it's their sworn duty to (often hyperbolically) police every instance of offensive language."
I'm not denying that I don't also need to take a break from all the uproar, but - as that's really easy for a guy like me to do - i just do it rather than ask people to stop crusading against shitty stuff
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
xp oh man just over a month til the release of one of the worst albums of 2014 that will prob still get BNMed and otherwise lauded b/c he's on-brand hipsterati and they are not gonna walk back on that now
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
i didn't ask people to do anything! i understand why people are offended, i just don't get why some people seem to feel that they have to publically respond to any and every offensive public utterance. that does not mean i don't think they should, or that i'm telling them not to. how hard is this to comprehend?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
xpost, again
the distinction between "asking people to tone it down a notch" and "posting online about how you don't understand why people don't tone it down a notch" feels pretty semantic imo
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
i mean, yes you're not literally posting on someone's "i am outraged by this butthead" facebook post and saying "why are you posting this? take a nap." i get that.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
i guess i'm just saying i don't get why people feel the need to announce online that other people are being too pc police online
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
do people ever do things that you personally don't understand why they do, but you don't object to them doing that thing?
the only thing i "object" to about grimes's tweet is what i believe is its hyperbole. but i don't object to her posting it. i just can't imagine myself doing the same thing.
i apologize for any misunderstanding. i'll leave the thread since this discussion is probably even more boring for everyone else as it is for me.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
yes, but i think it's ironic you claim not to understand why people would be hyperbolic on the internet when you describe grimes as one of those people on social media (who) feel it's their sworn duty to (often hyperbolically) police every instance of offensive language. like...that's hyperbole too.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
if you had said "i don't understand people who feel like they have to put melted cheese on everything" i wouldn't have balked (or at least not as much, cheese is awesome) but in this case i think you're not being fair to people that are coming from a good place and often doing a lot of good
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link
the melted cheese people are doing plenty of good fuiud
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
well i said "not as much"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link
One of you, I can't figure out who, needs more sugar in your Mac and cheese
― calstars, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
at least Pink and Grimes have one thing in common:they both think Madonna sucks now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahnUH7wnW30#t=287
― nostormo, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
MARKERS SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT A BLINK 182 LIVE DVD
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
I wonder if she’d cover “I Miss You” with me.
― markers, Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link
whoah, just checked out "Black Ballerina"
it's an Ariel Pink song in which the male protagonist is the hapless ingenue victim of rapacious strippers and pandering older touts- that's some A+ trolling served on a warm bed of Devo-meets-Cameo lite funk
not going to do him any favors re: allegations of misogyny
― the tune was space, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link
Ariel's an insane drug-addict. I don't think accusations of misogyny even register with someone like him.
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
I mean, he's inspired by a guy who wrote a creeptastic love song about lusting after a 10yo girl that dares to be catchy. That boy ain't right.
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 05:59 (nine years ago) link
ill take an insane drug-addict pop savant over almost anyone
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 09:48 (nine years ago) link
oh my god people are saying this is the White Album of our generation FUCK YES!!!!! new song is incredible
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 09:51 (nine years ago) link
lol @ "he's an insane addict, he's not right, he's a badman", is this a Christian parenting board??
Time to drop some truth bombs. Black Ballerina: fun. The spoken-word interlude: Classic AP skit, obviously trying to break taboos. The "misogynistic" outbursts and the contrived "beef" with Grimes: Convenient PR for his new album, and I don't think he doesn't register the hate towards him. It seems like people have been hating on him his whole career and he learned to roll along with it. (Strictly speaking about his public image, persona, work and whatnot here, I don't know how AP behaves in private, but for now I don't care.)
― DDD, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 10:28 (nine years ago) link
The song is ok I guess,But I prefer Serious Pink upon "humorous" Pink.
― nostormo, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I agree. I also prefer serious Pink. I also prefer serious Zappa over "humorous" Zappa.
I also prefer serious Prince over "sexy" Prince.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
xpost someone is fucking joking if theyre calling anything by ariel pink the white album of any generation
don't we have enough late-period beatles/psychedelia revivalism btw? like wasn't tame impala good enough? (to be fair i like tame impala)
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
i think that was meant as sarcastic or something..
― nostormo, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
these days such hyperbole wouldn't surprise me if it was real, but I prob should've considered that possibility
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
If you said a month ago Ariel Pink was going to cause Grimes to self-ether I would have been like, no that won't happen.
Taken in by the levels of funk present in Black Ballerina.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
more funky or less funky than that travi$ scott record tho
in any case listening to it now and this is kind of like early lonely island if they were less self-aware tbqh
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
Black Ballerina is about as funky as a John Deere commercial
― I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
Arial and Travis would go together like Chip and Dale - they're both talented artists and musicians who wear cowboy hats.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Good job I hate funk then
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
black ballerinas sounds like someone trying to be dam-funk and ending up ween-does-midnight-vultures
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
that's a good description for it
― I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
oh got to the part where groundskeeper willie takes milhouse to the strip club
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
it's phunky and phunny like phish
― I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
haha this is really an amazing punchline to all the "insiders" on this thread who have been on some "yo god i had crazy visions ariel's new joint is gonna get 5 mics in the source" lmao
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
lol
― I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
aaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha DONE
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
what era Chip and Dale features Dale in a cowboy hat bc it sure as hell ain't Rescue Rangers era Chip and Dale
― I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link