Skinny Puppy: Classic or Dud?

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When "last rights" was released, I could only listen to the non-ogre track - those being too intensely charged, too gutwrenching. It was only a few years ago I could delve into that cd & appreciate it as a whole piece...and a monumental piece it is!

Ah, but don't forget, we have more "cheese" to look forward to: Live Braps & outakes (84 to '92)to be out soon...

sarah p, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The urban legend goes that Ogre ODed or had some kind of drug complication while recording "Knowhere?" and the sounds of it ended up on the final release. Not true, but Ogre does give his finest vocal performances on "Last Rights"

fletrejet, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, he supposedly went into a convulsion during that recording, at the end...true or not, who knows.

But I always thought "love in vein" on Back & Forth Vol.4 was somehow far more gutwrenching than the "last rights" version. I dunno, something about that one has the darkest warp to me.

sarah p, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link


skinny puppy is great!

vivisect vi, bites, and rabies are my favorites i think.

i swear... mark my words... in my next few years, if we haven't started seeing it already as electro clash folds over itself... etc etc... skinny puppy and the like will become references for new underground bands... (if they already secretly aren't...)

there's too much to mine and shove off of...
m.

msp, Thursday, 6 February 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

I seem to recall the moment SP hit the circuit, other acts almost instantly borrowed off their sounds and images, taking it to their own extremes - some did it well and cashed in (we know who they are), and others tried and failed miserably. So I think we've already seen its influences played out ...unless it gets extremely hybridized into ultra ultra "bubblegum" industrial. But I think that's already happened too. What next?

sarah p, Friday, 7 February 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Revive. I'm reviewing Brap and Ain't It Dead Yet for the AMG, and listening to the early demos on Brap shows how well they had already figured out the basics for mood and capturing the ear early on, while the later tracks showed just how brilliantly they could fuck with the formula -- the alternate arrangement of "Knowhere?" that's "Uranus Cancelled," the stumbling drum collage/murk on "All Eyes"...

(This is also an interesting thread in that I didn't expect to see contributions from Ally and Gareth when I reread it!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

Classic! Inconsistent and hit-or-miss sometimes, but when they were good they were great.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 April 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Dan Perry, the world is so small...

Super-Kate (kate), Saturday, 1 May 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago) link

'Dig It' was funky funky funky.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 1 May 2004 07:08 (twenty years ago) link

Nah, Kate, it is small, but not as small as you think. I only know -of- Dan by his enthusiasm for SP by doing a search yesterday. His name kept popping up! :)

But hey, if anyone was upset about missing them live, they will get a chance very soon. They are touring extensively this year, first with a warm-up mini-tour in the U.S. in June (dates are still being announced), then Europe in July (dates also still being announced) and then a much larger tour of North America in late summer and the fall (no dates announced yet.) Whether you like the new album or not (release date: May 24th/25th), it would still be worth going to see them live. At least I think so. But I'm biased. ;)

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Saturday, 1 May 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

But by that logic you have to go see the Cure as well! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 May 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

Only if The Cure play somewhere smaller than Madison Square Garden will I go. Been there, done that, was very angry afterward. But if the rumors are true and they really are playing with Mogwai and Interpol, well, it will be hard to resist. :) I would love to see them at Radio City Music Hall again, but I have no idea of the kinds of places they can fill in the States anymore.

At least at a Puppy show I know I can stand up front and run the risk of getting non-descript bits of goop (and gods know what else) flung in my direction. Hey, this is appealing to some folks!

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Saturday, 1 May 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

some roommates of mine roadtripped and followed skinny puppy through part of their too dark park tour. they brought "puppy guts" in baby food jars back with them as souvenirs. classic.

tricky disco, Saturday, 1 May 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

i saw down|aod |ive and they did a coup|e sp tracks. cevin key is just so fan-fucking-tastic to see |ive i think i'd rea||y enjoy the chance to see him again.

dyson (dyson), Saturday, 1 May 2004 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

OH MY I really have to see if/when they're coming to Boston. HOORAY BEING THE AGING CREEPY GUY AT A SHOW.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 1 May 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

i'm fairly sure 99.9% of attendees will fall into that category¡

dyson (dyson), Saturday, 1 May 2004 23:03 (twenty years ago) link

Nothing for Boston, yet, or NYC (where I'm anxiously waiting) for that matter.

While I think there's a good chance that a Boston date will be added soon, If they don't show up for the warm-up tour, they most definitely will hit it on the return trip. Rumor is that they are doing 20 dates on this side of the Atlantic before heading to Europe. They've only announced six shows in the States so far:

Portland- Roseland Theater June 11th
Seattle- Showbox June 12th
Chicago- Vic Theater June 15th and 16th (16th is sold out)
Philadelphia- Electric Factory June 23rd
Atlanta- Masquerade June 25th

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Saturday, 1 May 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

no canadian dates, wtf¿ they're only from here for christsakes¡

dyson (dyson), Saturday, 1 May 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

Clear Channel (eww) is listing a Boston date now:

http://cc.com/event_detail.html?eventID=201842

Boston- Avalon June 19th

Tickets go on sale May 7th at 10am.

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Monday, 3 May 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

I have never been happier about receiving my income tax return than I am right now.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 May 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

What are you going to do, buy out the venue and have them put on a private performance while you sit there smoking a cigar on a lounge chair and drinking champagne?

(Which I think you should do, of course.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

DC date announced according to SPV's newsletter:

DC- 930 Club June 22nd

Oh, and I'll list the dates announced so far in Europe too:

Paris- La Locomotive July 11th
Amsterdam- Paradiso July 13th
Sweden- Arvika Festival July 15th
Germany- Zillo Festival July 17th
Belgium- Dour Festival July 18th
London- The Forum July 19th

Well at least I have some idea of what week they'll be in NYC, if not the actual day.

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

Full update of US tour so far as per SPV:

Fri June 11, 2004 Portland, OR Roseland Theater
Sat June 12, 2004 Seattle, WA Showbox
Tue June 15, 2004 Chicago, IL Vic Theater
Wed June 16, 2004 Chicago, IL Vic Theater
Thu June 17, 2004 Detroit, MI TBA
Sat June 19, 2004 Boston, MA Avalon Ballroom
Sun June 20, 2004 New York, NY Irving Plaza (YES!!!)
Mon June 21, 2004 New York, NY Irving Plaza (double YES!!!)
Tue June 22, 2004 Washington, DC 9:30 Club
Wed June 23, 2004 Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory
Fri June 25, 2004 Atlanta, GA Masquerade
Sat June 26, 2004 New Orleans, LA House of Blues
Sun June 27, 2004 Houston, TX Club V
Tue June 29, 2004 Denver, CO Ogden Theatre
Thu July 1, 2004 San Francisco, CA Grand Ballroom
Fri July 2, 2004 Los Angeles, CA Henry Fonda Theatre
Sun July 4, 2004 Anaheim, CA The Grove of Anaheim

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY!

I'll actually be in town. Hmm....

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT DUE TO MY IMPENDING "JUNE BACHELOR" STATUS I CAN REALISTICALLY GO TO THIS SHOW OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

MY IMPENDING "JUNE BACHELOR" STATUS

Er?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

The wife is going to be off at a sumer program for most of June = I can go to any random show I want! Too bad there isn't a Lard reunion tour going on...

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

It must be said that the name "Nivek" is hilarious.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link

I am so ready for a burrito now.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link

"It must be said that the name "Nivek" is hilarious."

Well, having two people named Kevin in the band was proably too confusing for their acid-fried brains.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link

no canadian dates, wtf¿ they're only from here for christsakes¡

cEVIN and Ogre have been living in L.A. for over a decade now? It's really easy to spot cEVIN at a show...look for the Klingon.

So, otherwise, WTF about this whole reunion? Who is in the lineup besides Krompton and Ogilvie? Who's taking over for Goettel (r.i.p.)?

(Note: Skinny Puppy were my very first concert ever. I'm somehow feeling really NOT into this reunion, and I'm not sure why)

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

when i saw download it seemed dude from dead voices (can't recall his name right now) was doing the majority of dwayne's old role.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

I never got to see them back-in-da-day, largely because by the time I could afford to go to concerts, they were breaking up.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link

Well, having two people named Kevin in the band was proably too confusing for their acid-fried brains.

I thought it was because spelling something backwards is "evil".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

Well, you know Canadian English. Besides, their only other option was to change both of their names to Gordon, and Nodrog is a little too Iced Earth for them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

"Hi, I'm Nivek and this is my bandmate Gnits."

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

There is no replacement for Dwayne as far as band members go, but they have quite a few friends contributing to both the new album and the tour. They were looking for a second drummer for the tour, so I'm assuming that cEvin is going to be more on synth duty than drum duty. But that's only a guess, because I can't imagine what cEvin would be doing when not drumming other than that. As the actual contribution of Bill Leeb, oh, excuse me... Wilhelm Schroeder, is debatable at best on earlier works, it's certainly not the first time that it's only been The Kevins and Friends.

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

The funniest thing is that "Kevin" is like the least "evil" name. It's not like Damien or Hunter or something backwards. It's Kevin=Nivek. This gives me the giggles.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

I am surprised that there isn't some mega Vancouver show planned... people STILL talk about them there, and this is from people who were 12 when The Process was released.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

"Dig It" is so CLASSIC. I even have an "evil" Skinny Puppy t-shirt.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

call me Recneps.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

Is there a "good" Skinny Puppy t-shirt????

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

that is not a skinny puppy shirt.

nosyd (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

WHY DO YOU HATE MR. BARRETT SO?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Don't hate the playa, hate the game etc.

NadAgnev Yrrep (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

Still no Canadian dates? What, will they tour Canada after returning from Europe? Does anybody know the reason for this?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

i think, actaully i may've heard something about ogre catching shit at the boarder in the past.

nosyd (dyson), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Well this was supposed to be a mini-tour. A warm-up, with a much bigger tour to follow in the fall, after Europe. I can't see them leaving out Canada entirely and I'm sure they'll get there eventually, but I am surprised they didn't hit Vancouver during this leg of the tour. Maybe they wanted to keep it relatively small at first while they work out the kinks? It has been awhile since they've toured as SP. I heard something about them not wanting to give too much advance notice for this "mini-tour". ::shrug::

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:05 (twenty years ago) link

Got my tickets!!! Both nights in NYC. Totally psyched!

Just had to share.

kaliflwr (kaliflwr), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:43 (twenty years ago) link


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