UK Anti-Americanism "feels like racism" says possibly over-reacting former model

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If I've ever gotten any of this shit I tell the person I come from the People's Republic of Minnesota.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

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I'm talking more if, like, someone in New York said to you, Laurel, that he hated all those midwestern Christians and they all should be shot, and you said "well, that's a big part of where I'm from," and he said "yeah, but you're not LIKE THAT," or "you're not ONE OF THEM" -- even if you really aren't, it's horrifying. Like someone hands you a gun: "Just shoot your parents and we'll pretend you're one of us."

(xpost Yeah Laurel that's totally cool by me! And non-surprising, America doesn't invest words in like differentiating between post-slavery black and African-immigrant black, and what with slavery its idea of black is totally west-African and etc -- it makes sense.)

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm talking more if, like, someone in New York on ILX said to you, Laurel, that he hated all those midwestern Christians and they all should be shot...

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Hm, that didn't work at all. Nevermind.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think more than any political issue, a lot of this is a clash between perceived American ambition/confidence/pride and the stereotypical British love of shooting people down and making everything comfortably mediocre. Americans are at the top so they're the most fun to rip into and crush (when they're outnumbered on yr turf, obv).

Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Has this changed -if it existed- under Obama

Ugh punching up anyway

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 10:45 (eight years ago) link

Experienced this at work the other day, very nice guy who basically thinks the US is a fascist state - "they don't have the same freedoms we have over here in Europe" (he actually said this!) - capable of just about any evil you can imagine. Not helped by the fact that we were working with was a left wing Spanish guy, so anti-American almost by definition though in a more measured, thoughtful way. Anyway, over the course of a few hours, I managed to reason with him and get him to explain and, in some cases, moderate his more outlandish opinions. I still feel like the next time I work with guy I should wear one of lapel badges with the Union Jack and the Stars and Stripes entwined.
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 28 September 2015 18:41 (1 month ago) BookmarkFlag Post Permalink

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

If Anti-Americanism here/anywhere intensified over US Gov 10-15 years ago it's focus now (again?) is probably spread thinner over (often racist) gun violence, hard right media influence and corporate greed-negligence.

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 11:10 (eight years ago) link

corporate greed-negligence

I thought the UK led the world in this tbh.

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 11:30 (eight years ago) link

typical UK triumphalism

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

If only we had a precise English word for the irrational or stereotyped fear or hatred of foreigners! If only that word existed!

But I guess "xenophobia" has 5 syllables and "racism" only 2, so we can't expect Americans to understand or use it. ;-)

La Düsseldork (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link

There's something very Guardian BTL about being anti-American in the UK in 2015

canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link


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