Minnesota/Minnesotans C or D

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God, I was in town shortly after they (finally) switched to a reasonable bar time. Shit was insane, like people were drunk with their newfound freedom to be, er, drunk. I saw at least huge barfight and one dumpster set on fire (REALLY on fire), and then we were sitting outside at this place called Asia and missed being the victims of a random drive-by egging by mere inches.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

Does the Como Zoo still have that tiny little amusement park with the Tilt-a-Whirl and I don't remember what other rides (were/are there other rides?) Haven't been there since grade school.

pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

i'll have to go to asia more often...

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

tho i think it might be 'azia'

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Minnesotans sure are tricky. They're aloof, reserved, sometimes stand-offish. They'd come across as assholes in this respect were it not for the fact that they're constantly giving up their left arms for those in need and washing the feet of tired strangers.

When I was twenty and living alone in an apartment off of Franklin, a woman from the liquor store invited me to her family's house for Thanksgiving. I think that I may have been the only person there under 200 pounds, and the only man under 6'3". They fed me like a brother, got me drunk on Schnapp's, and it was TEH BEST THANKSGIVNG EVAH.

It was just one family in NE Minneapolis, but I'll stick up for Minnesotans any day of the week. Even the screedy James Lileks.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

I have a lot of family in Minnesota, and I remember going to family reunions when I was a kid and stopping on the way to get really fantastic pie from a place called the Norski Nook or something. But that could just as well have been in Wisconsin, I suppose. I mean, it might have been. But if it is in Minnesota, that is something I like about Minnesota a lot.
The only times I've been to Minneapolis, I've just seen tons of hippies and had bad food and a really bad time. I'm sure it's an okay city, but my experiences were very, very dud.

kirsten (kirsten), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

Probably the best college station in the state and on a good day you can get it almost as far west as Alexandria on I-94.

It's been awhile for me, but I always really enjoyed Radio K. College radio sounds so beautiful on the AM band.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

It is Azia, and really poncey for Minneapolis.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

it's like chiang mai only with shittier food and an uglier waitstaff. and it's more expensive.

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

classic classic classic classic classic.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Pizza Luce.
Sebastian Joe's ice cream.
Cheapo (founded/started there), particularly the St. Paul Cheapo.
Lifter fucking Puller.
Atmos-fucking-sphere.
Triple Rock (bar/restaurant AND live venue).
Peter S. Scholtes, Melissa Maerz, Dylan Hicks, Kate Silver, Michael Tortorello--pretty much everyone on City Pages' arts staff/freelancers, really. Rod Smith and Nate Patrin. It just goes ON like that. Truly the scariest one-stop-spot for music/arts writing talent in the country; Will Hermes, Jon Dolan, Laura Sinagra, Kate Sullivan, Keith Harris, and a few others I'm forgetting came out of that paper/environment, and they're all favorites of mine.
Rex Sorgatz, whose linkblog I miss.
Old houses with like 80 hidden rooms; mansions converted to fourplexes.
The Electric Fetus.
CHEAP ASS RENT.

God, sometimes I want to move back there so badly.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

the changing of the seasons here is fucking intense. i know it's cliche but it's true. you never get used to it. it's like one gigantic mass manic depression seesaw

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

and that's a good thing!

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

St. Cloud State's radio station KVSC[...]Probably the best college station in the state and on a good day you can get it almost as far west as Alexandria on I-94.

I can get it in from the cities all the way to Sauk Centre which is pretty damn good. I like it better than Radio K as well. But please don't forget KUMM the praries only alternative. We have to be classic if only for our call letters. Also worth noting is Rev 105 which all us kids thought was the coolest thing ever at the time.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

kumm!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

That's almost as good as KLIT in LA!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

"Drive" 105 sucks ass now. And the college station in St. Cloud is usually better than Rad. K.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

Norski Nook is in Osseo, WI (actually I think it IS Osseo). MMMMMM PIIIIEEEEE.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

I can get it in from the cities all the way to Sauk Centre which is pretty damn good

Yeah, that's usually around where it cuts out for me, too. But I used to have an '82 Olds a few years back that would get it just about to the rest area right before Alex. Only good thing about that car.

I used to hate MN with a passion growing up (could be because it was way out in the sticks) but now that I've gotten a little bit older and done a bit of traveling I've realized that all in all it's a pretty nice to be.

Also, it's the only place in the U.S. (well most of the upper midwest according to A Short History of Nearly Everything) that doesn't have to worry about earthquakes!

pholm, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

The guy who founded Rev 105 was a really good friend of mine, and I did the occasional 'letter from Britain'-type thing for them. Totally upfront Anglophile radio stations never manage to last long in Minnesota.

C/D:

Don Shelby/Diana Pierce
Sebastian Joe's seconded - I know of no better way to completely negate the good work done on arse by 10 mile bike ride around Lake Harriet/Steve and Sharon aaaaahghghh
Red Dragon/food at the Red Dragon

HUGE shout-out to Chris K.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, Red Dragon has good cocktails.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

haha Suzy, Kevin Cole lives in Seattle now! He's awesome, we're having lunch sometime soon (when we have time that is)--and Radio Depth Probe was TOTALLY my initiation into house and techno, so that in itself gets mad, fucked-up props.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

also I saw Chris K at the Pixies, we said hi but it was so crowded we couldn't talk. ah well.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

KEVIN COLE IS A GOD AMONGST MEN. Three cheers to Lies, Incorporated!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

Red Dragon/food at the Red Dragon

haha so so right

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Kevin Cole Fan Club: yes, I know, as with Rod Smith (who with Ron Clark was Lies, Inc), I've known the guy since I was 15 and hassling clerks for Smiths 12"s. His wife Shawn has *scary* poise.

Funniest thing: Acieed House Helen and I were at Reading one year and bumped into Kevin Cole shepherding five contest winners around the festival; I was gobsmacked. She was doing Trance Europe Express then and so it was a bit of a meeting of minds, and we all had crazy fun.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

I am inordinately excited that I am on friendly terms with people who can tell Kevin Cole that when I was 19, I worshipped him.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

we all did, dude.

I have long considered starting a microlabel to reissue his old Radio Depth Probes WHICH HE STILL HAS THE REEL-TO-REELS OF, EVERY GODDAMNED ONE OF THEM. cough, cough.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

OH MY GOD.

OH MY GOD.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

(here's where I rag on J0n Br3am. He tries to charge mad fees if people call him for Prince info yet is so repugnant he cannot get work as a stringer for Billboard - and he has asked!)

Yeah, Kevin is just one of those people that can get things going and those people are always evident, even when the person is working in Platters. He's also notable for not succumbing to that evil bloaty big fish, small pond thing that a lot of old scenesters get in Minneapolis.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

Matos, can you get him to send me a CD of the show where the second half started out with "Closer To All Your Dreams" and mixed into a Hypnotist white-label? I think "Jump Around" and a remix of "Cobra Bora" were in that particular set, too.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

Rod Smith is incredibly good about that last point as well.

haha Dan, I think they're all in storage in Mpls! He's mentioned it a lot, it's like he's taunting me or something.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

me, I'm especially partial to the set whose 2nd half began with Sabrina Johnston's TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME HAPPY-HOUSE BOMB "I Wanna Sing" ("I sing for harmony--yeah!/I sing for unity--yeah!" oh god it's just about the best vocal-house record EVER and I've NEVER seen the fucker reissued anywhere, what's up with that), went into something vaguely Latin-ish and just kept going. Used to CANE the tape I made of that show (one of his last--second or third to last, maybe?) and REALLY miss it right now.

sorry for all-caps gush but Dan and Suzy feel me I'm sure.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

OH YES.

There was another set where he went from some evil-sounding gabber track into "People Everyday" by Arrested Development that was FUCKING AMAZING. I actually saw him do that one live at First Avenue and I've never seen a happier crowd EVER.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

(Rod once tried to write a hip-hop/techno opera about the pillages of Heliogabalus. Tell me this does not surprise you)

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

haha Suzy, nothing about Rod could possibly surprise me.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

(do you read his stuff in Seattle Weekly? it's absurdly good. I don't like to play favorites but he does amazingly good work week in and out.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

(and his City Pages stuff is just as impressive, particularly his Diablo Cody piece, which I pushed him to do!)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

Don't worry about the favouritism, I'll vouch for him. He's a lunatic for waiting this long to write music journalism in the first place. We used to sit in Northern Lights on rainy afternoons drawing browser and rack cartoons. Also when I returned to Mpls. after doing the whole NME thing, waving the demos for Hippopotamomus at him, he was a very excited boy. Best. Pervert. Ever.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link

He's a lunatic for waiting this long to write music journalism in the first place.

haha NO KIDDING! I actually pushed him into doing it--he'd written something for Rain Taxi (another reason to love MN--it's a quarterly, free lit zine) and I'd been asked by City Pages for a show blurb I didn't know anything about but knew Rod did, so I sent them to him: "He writes for Rain Taxi." The rest is history. < /bragging>

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

fuck, after KIDDING! it was supposed to say < bragging alert>

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

(suzy can you email me? I just wrote you but it got bounced.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Argh! My mail is fucked in that I can mail you but have an inbox, and no current spamola account. It sucks, and would have been sorted by now except Ed is building a Linux server to host our mail etc. Best thing is to mail it to Ed's address dali at zerointegrity dot co dot uk and I will mail back from mine. Bit roundabout, but will only be like that for a week longer.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

done and done.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

fuck, I forgot all about Kevin Cole. That guy deserves a spot in the MN Music Hall of Fame. Lawdy, did he ever try hard.

If we are going to mention the Foetus and Cheapo, then damn, let's pimp Garage D'or. Folkjourwhateverthefuck wasn't all that great to me, but there was a time there in the late 80s early 90s when it seemed like there was about ten great record stores in that city.

Thanks for reminding me it is the Como Zoo.

As Matos has waxed eloquent before, there is an incredible heritage of great music writers from Minneapolis. It's too bad that the CP is so small--there's not nearly enough room for all the talent.

don atwater weiner, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

Red Dragon cream cheese wontons are the classickest of all classics, you all are gibbering and deranged.

Where is M@tt He1geson anyway?

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

Other things classic--

pulltabs
walleye
a bunch of dive bars along Hennepin that probably aren't even there anymore
softball in the summertime
the way the road runs along the river down to Winona
the bluffs on the Missippi up there by the West Bank and by Ft. Snelling
the way that planes scrape the roof of your car on approach over there by the Airport

biggest dud ever--
waiting in line to get into a show during February

don atwater weiner, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

They don't have pulltabs in other states?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

CLASSIC:
"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig
The Time
Suicide Commandos
Let it Be (record store and/or Replacements album)
The Orpheum
The Walker Art Center
Lake Street as Somali-Hmong-Mexican tricontinental Minneapolis immigrant nexus
Hot rodders and muscle car gearheads and import tweakers rolling down University in St. Paul
The XCel Energy Center, which is (at least from the outside) one of the nicest arenas I've ever seen; it is where I am gonna see Prince
The T-Wolves KICKING ASS AND TAKING NAMES
River Road (both the Mpls. and St. Paul banks)

DUD:
The Vikings-Packers rivalry seeping into EVERYTHING at every possible opportunity
The new Block E entertainment center/pseudomall (except the movie theater, which has nauseating decor but fantastic seating)
Lileks
The Walker Art Center being closed for remodeling until 2016 or some shit like that
Governor Tim Pawlenty
Almost every single movie filmed here not Fargo or Purple Rain (see: Jingle All the Way, Joe Somebody, That Was Then This Is Now, Feeling Minnesota)

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link


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