Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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just the idea that it's 'disturbing' is disturbing

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

Blood Diamonds is actually working on the new Madonna album lol

Number None, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

One Direction is a group put together 4 years ago on a British TV show, comparing that to Madonna is pretty silly.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

Blood Diamonds is actually working on the new Madonna album lol

Apart from that being hilarious all this now makes a lot more sense

Wait...

Ugh this is horrible moves from all involved. This is not what twitter is good at.

Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

it's disturbing that we can all spend as much time on the internet as we all clearly do while still working full-time or holding down other life responsibilities but pretend that it's totally weird and unnatural for famous people

some dude, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

you're right, i apologize, it doesn't make sense since she is working on music constantly. 'disturbing' isn't the right word, more like disappointing, bc i want to hear new grimes. i feel the same way about isaac brock but he's had seven fucking years

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

and he never tweets hmmmm it's almost like there's absolutely no relationship between social media presence and artistic productivity

some dude, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was the best MM album and probably found Brock at his ceiling as a songwriter, and he probably knows it, so don't wish for an album that's only going to disappoint you.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank was the best MM album

say what bruh??

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link

I am king challop when it comes to MM and I know it.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

i could see that. it's a damn good record, better than good news, more rocking, less tom waits

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

we were dead is probably my favorite modest mouse album, but the idea that the lack of follow-up comes from isaac brock thinking he couldn't possibly top it so why bother, rather a mix of indifference on his part and interscope's, is pretty funny

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

"and then johnny marr left and i was like, well fuuuuuuuck how could i ever write another 'dashboard' my work here on earth is done"

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

whoops they're on epic or were, who knows at this point

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

they have a handful of new songs like "Shit in Your Cut" they've been playing live for years now, none of them sound very good

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

it's definitely possible that he knows he'll never make as much in royalties again

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

lonesome crowded west c'mon y'all...

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

Oh, I was only kidding about him contemplating his limitations after the last album. Maybe dude's just not into writing that much anymore.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

all the LP's are too bloated by about 3-4 songs, imo Everywhere and His Nasty Parlor Tricks is their best release front to back

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Night on the Sun is best jam

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

It's a mark of how bad this thread had become that the swerve into Modest Mouse discussion actually seems like a slight improvement.

Tim F, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

oh man, "You're the Good Things," "Here it Comes," the extended "I Came as a Rat".... totally classic. i know ILX hates modest mouse for the most part

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahnUH7wnW30

4:40 in this video, Grimes talking about Madonna: "..even though she sucks now".

-LOL-

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link

whoops

how's life, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link

i think the issue was the way ariel pink discounted madonna, criticizing her for trying to hold onto her faded youth and that her work needs more substance -- "sugar in the mac and cheese" -- from male songwriters such as himself. he didn't just say "i haven't been too enthusiastic about madonna's recent efforts" or something.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/HVoM9oX.png

post from that Grimes video

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

that said, and i will say it again, ariel pink doesn't know what he is saying because he is a weird, crazy guy who spent his twenties in his parent's basement.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

also ariel gets no benefit of the doubt after that sexist shit he was saying about that girl he took home in that one video, that was low shit

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link

idk, i think people are leaping to that reading given all of his other press where he said dumb/offensive things in a deadpan way, for some reason, but saying madonna's music lacks substance these days/for many years, isn't a controversial opinion is it? he exaggerates wildly though by saying she's been shit since before Like a Virgin and putting sugar in mac and cheese would ever be acceptable.

he's trolling because he has a record coming out in november

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link

xpost yea in that same "i got maced by a feminist" bullshit interview, he says that gay sex "isn't really sex"
he's not a bigot, just really cynical 'playing the heel'

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

what a disaster for the self-aware heel if he's mistaken for a misogynist

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

He's not a bigot he's just using hurtful language in a trolling way to get a rise out of people? Call me cray but I think that makes him a bigot nonetheless.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

Actually remove "nonetheless" there

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

saying bigoted shit to "troll" is as bigoted as saying it because you "mean it"

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

xp

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

Can't imagine Grimes reasons for saying "Madonna sucks now" in that video were much or any different from Ariel Pinks, i.e, the same opinion of everybody on why she sucks now.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

we've reached the "are people who still claim the issue was ariel saying madonna's music ain't good now trolling or genuinely clueless" portion of the thread

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link

There are like 8million people ITT and the other one going "IDGI, what's wrong with saying Madonna sucks now?" as if that's the problem, rather than the wording of his statement.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah this is frustrating

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

Can't imagine Grimes reasons for saying "Madonna sucks now" in that video were much or any different from Ariel Pinks, i.e, the same opinion of everybody on why she sucks now.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:33 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.millsworks.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/writing_process.gif

Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

there's just something so goofy about the "woah, woah, the guy who casually says sexist shit may be a jerk, but that doesn't mean he's a real-deal, dyed-in-the-wool, my-woman-belongs-in-the-kitchen SEXIST" argument, as if it's important everyone be really delicate and careful in our estimation of egomaniacs who clearly don't give a fuck

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Never underestimate the ability of people to not understand things they don't really want to understand.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

lol @ analysing and interpreting the wording of something arial pink says in an interview

he said she should stop gyrating like shes 20. call it ageist if you want, but still no one has bothered explained why it's sexist, let alone misogynist.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

+ I would actually find a dismissive "even though she sucks now" as far 'offensive' than what Ariel said, personally.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link

because men are not generally subject to the same type of ageism

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link

RT: You're wrong, re-read the thread. Nobody owes you any further explanation you worthless troll.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link

- some of the arguments itt are being supported w/citations from youtube comments threads

schlump, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link

people getting angry over this haha

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Life, Liberty, Property and the ability to gyrate at any age.

Evan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

people getting angry over this haha

― Raccoon Tanuki, 16. oktober 2014 17:23 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am not angry. I am stating calmly and clearly, that what you write is factually wrong, and that you are a worthless troll. This isn't anger, this is fact. You have nothing to contribute, and you're wasting everyones time. So, quite frankly, shut up.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link


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