Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

this keeps getting more grossly offensive and stupid

Xp - i mean i assume that these guys are all cowards but i wouldn't bet someone else's life on that assessment

without looking, i'm sure some idiot has already accused Sarkeesian of cancelling the event to somehow promote herself by ignoring the police's low-enough risk assessment

yup

ur prediction is too conservative she has been accused of fabricating the threat against herself of course

http://i.imgur.com/052qGZB.png

going into the mentions on any tweet by any remotely prominent person about this whole thing is basically being in hell

Wow a gamergate fatwa wtf

Hang on are the feds saying "its ok, its safe to proceed she gets threats like this all the time nbd" ?? Cos thats sure as shit how it reads.

it def reads that way

one wld hope they used some other more standard risk assessment other than hey they havent killed her yet

http://i.imgur.com/gpUJTpb.png

lol hanging out in someones mentions straight claiming ownership of the whole scene these people are loony as hell

I just posted about this on FB btw and a friend I thought better of derailed the discussion of "omg this is terrorism" with BUT QUINN WAS A GASLIGHTING NUTTER.

Sigh.

xp this really is some pua board level grossness

I thought these two make great points:

http://ellaguro.blogspot.ca/2014/09/on-gamers-and-identity.html

http://dropouthangoutspaceout.tumblr.com/post/50472859975/videogames-are-the-gardens-of-the-bourgeoise

"...videogames have become one of those 'spheres' that was supposed to separated from 'real life', which explains, once again, why 'gam3rz' are so virulent in their defense of sexism, separate spheres, border patrolling, racism etc. It’s that 'private sphere' that they shared with others which was conceived as their private garden, their summer cottage...

...The bourgeois class created the private because it had the resources to manufacture a world distinct from the aristocracy and the monarchy while the previous classes, farmers and serfs had no concept of the private. Think about how brands are supposed to be private - they are families you bring into your kingdom because they are lifestyles and ideas and whatnot embodied as subjects - even if those subjects are just commodities. Brands, rather than products, become citizens of sorts and are represented by their various manifestations in your private kingdom.

...Remember, this separate sphere is all we have outside of work itself. It’s this private sphere that is supposed to lend true meaning to our lives - not our shitty job that we grudgingly wake up for every day. This is where shit matters and as it happens when things are under your care you give a lot of damns when something appears to attack them.

So what comes out isn’t so much entirely about a hatred of women (though much of it is) but also about the reaction against the drive of a more communal impulse to challenge that hegemony of the private sphere. To move against bourgeois values means to attack, in one sense, that autonomous sphere of production and reproduction of the monarchy of the home. It means to rip that tiny sphere of sovereignty that so many people, robbed of any other space of control in their lives through rampant capital accumulation, have. It also shows how the economic movements of our world come around and viciously react against things they seem so far away from."

that sounds right on

i remember how ridiculous the rhetoric about violence in videogames around an event like Columbine was to me as a sixth grader, how they don't understand how abstracted and silly the violence in a game like Doom was, how it was all simulated, how little of a basic understanding they had of how games work. but as those debates have largely dissipated over the years, videogames have only become more violent, have only ventured much further into simulated realism meant to more convincingly substitute for a disappointing and disempowering reality, have only catered much more deeply and pervasively to the entitlements of their users, and have only become more ingrained and ever-present in culture. where we stand now, videogames have deeply entrenched themselves as the primary venue for disempowered people to elect themselves as servants and act out the sociopathic fantasies of the ruling class. videogames literally train soldiers. if you feel disillusioned, if you feel not particularly smart or skilled, videogames are there. no surprise, then, that this learned rhetoric is further blurring the lines between fantasy and reality and creating a battleground in such a seemingly arbitrary part of popular media. no surprise that this battleground is very real.

the problem is these violent impulses are self-destructive at their core. they're not actions of autonomous actors, they're culturally programmed. they're the impulses of a suicide bomber throwing himself into a crowd of people. they're deeply emotional, deeply disconnected, and deeply afraid of what's happening in the world - and that's what makes them scary, and very real. and that's why we need to see them for what they are - fear, and understand how and why they're deeply intertwined with our culture.

I am thinking, suddenly, of how criticism of sexism in porn has been around for aeons, and afaik no one formed vigilante mobs to tweet about how all the stupid SJW femmos were destroying their nice boobies and they'd kill women who tried... wait who am I kidding, its probably out there isnt it :(

http://i.imgur.com/LD1QtMw.png

i might've railed against this POV pre-gamergate, but when a splinter subculture considers threatening to kill game critics acceptable lulz for the sake of a morally unobstructed view of the new COD, it's a persuasive argument

TBH thats crossed my mind as well.

but I cant fucking put "bomb threats" and "over women talking about video game" together without losing a large chunk of brain).

Like, someone actually thought it was a bright idea to become a terrorist in order to stop a game critic. This is not a hard cost-benefit computation!

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/522315820291350528
https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/522315786288132096

Gamergaters are arguing with an Eliza Twitter bot: https://twitter.com/ElizaRBarr/status/522159233547382784

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz-re_oIAAAOJwP.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz-uP0sIEAAGmqT.png

okay that's a lol

Hahahahahaha

http://i.imgur.com/RVrPYjJ.jpg

Dead Cousin Squinky OTM

sad otm

the BBC's attempts to sum up the whole farrago using Auntie's balanced language and formal tone are pretty amusing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29626809

all-time: https://twitter.com/JamieBworth/status/522380269223809024

Gamergaters are arguing with an Eliza Twitter bot

― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:43 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

looool

oh man i could read that all day

i always appreciate it when right wing randos loop in instapundit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz_nCWMCQAA18Ok.png

looks like it (or something like it) worked

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/196697/

god that guy is such a cheapass

xp lol that's perfect

(incidentally it's always super bizarre to me when you see a RW rando on twitter and look them up and they have like 25k followers)

#tcot is in essence a vast followback conspiracy

I like playing video games sometimes but I'd be cool with totally abolishing them if it would make these dudes miserable.

I like playing them quite a lot, and would cosign - although I do worry that this will end very very fucking poorly.

:(

http://i.imgur.com/GyQG3IT.png

lmao

loool

the idea that online interaction is like some game simulating real world socialization def has some legs

the escalation model, from really awkward conversation to threats to calling swat teams or w/e really shows a lack of understanding about how the world works, although it really does seem like an echo of the 'war on terror' in some ways.

there's no end goal, though. do you want these people to leave your sphere, commit suicide, or what? it's like an obsessive-compulsive need to make your little cultural area a 'safe space', with the understanding that this safety means only arguments that you approve of can exist, only viewpoints within a certain range of variation exist, and thoughts that you don't want to have are kept at bay. it's as if the existence of alternative viewpoints is a threat to their sense of self.

people who base their self-image and sense of self worth on exclusion are doomed unless they can live in a world where they're a hegemony, and then they're still going to be circling the drain because the absence of outside ideas and influences is a death spiral

gamers need to learn to day whatever man

like do they even toke weed wldnt that highten the gaming experince

I don't know a thing about games these days, but I'm having trouble understanding what the gg beef is. Do they really think that if a game like Depression Quest gets a positive review on a website then every gaming company is going to stop producing the massively lucrative shit that gg folks like, and only put out games about navigating microaggressions and volunteering at crisis centers?

yes

they just think no one shd be able to say anything abt them especially girls

m/l same as everyone else

'ethics in video games journalism' really is a phrase that they're misusing, what they really mean is that journalists are acting against gamer ethics unless they work to further the current gaming culture and any deviation from that is unethical

don't know if they think depression quest style games will take over, they just literally don't like seeing them or reading about them on their websites/stores