Ariel Pink

*headdesks* i had no clue who the frontperson or whatever of elite gymnastics was thanks

"who is james brooks" is usually the most appropriate response to mentions of james brooks imo

are you the bobos in paradise guy?

i couldn't imagine having an opinion about any of this

i'm sure you actually do

in all fairness "james brooks" is correct because after all elite gymnastics does suck

there's a p high likelihood that that is actually him tbh

hi james

what if Ariel Pink was raped by Michael Jackson as a child?

Is that cover song he did for the Madonna tribute album any good?

The line-up was quite interesting. I wanted it for Apollo Heights mostly.

what if Ariel Pink was raped by Michael Jackson as a child?

― sugar in my mac and ciccone old (sarahell), Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:25 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf

Is that cover song he did for the Madonna tribute album any good?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:28 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Speaking as a fan, no.

james if that was actually you, if nothing else i've always appreciated that your twitter avi is holly hunter as GJ from top of the lake, that series ruled

No post on thi forum managed to clearly explin how critising maddonas music is mysogynist yet btw

bullshit move calling ariel a misogynist on fuckin twitter because your bff is now working somehow w/ madonna.

can we have some chritian kindness aournd here? snoop calling iggy a cunt, grimes calling ariel a dickhead, whats wrong with people

i do think people rush to say "misogynist" when "sexist" might be more appropriate

just part of the general tendency of people to go for the jugular really quickly In This Day And Age Of Twitter Etc.

pink's specific criticisms of madonna weren't necessarily sexist (=she doesn't make good music anymore) but he couched them in language that has strongly sexist and ageist overtones

yeah i'd be more inclined to believe people who claim they still don't understand why some took offense if they at least grasped the sentence people took the most offense with. clue: it wasn't the one about how her first album was her best.

or rather, i'd believe it was a failing on the offended's part some still don't get it

i guess i just don't get why so many people on social media feel it's their sworn duty to (often hyperbolically) police every instance of offensive language. i imagine it's exhausting.

personally i'm cooler with what was once called the pc police than the dumb-asses who say shit that set off the alarms

esp when they don't apologize and instead complain about the pc police saying such mean things about them

well yeah, obv ariel pink is the asshole here. but the whole 24-hr-outrage cycle seems so unhelpful most of the time

asking people to be less offended by offensive comments strikes me as less helpful

i'm not asking anyone to do anything!

cant wait til pom pom comes out so we can talk about his music

xpost

certainly not "be less offended"!

does all of ILX have reading comprehension difficulties lately or is it just a case of willful misreading in order to start an argument?

you're posting online that you find it unhelpful and that you're unsympathetic to "people on social media (who) feel it's their sworn duty to (often hyperbolically) police every instance of offensive language."

I'm not denying that I don't also need to take a break from all the uproar, but - as that's really easy for a guy like me to do - i just do it rather than ask people to stop crusading against shitty stuff

xp oh man just over a month til the release of one of the worst albums of 2014 that will prob still get BNMed and otherwise lauded b/c he's on-brand hipsterati and they are not gonna walk back on that now

i didn't ask people to do anything! i understand why people are offended, i just don't get why some people seem to feel that they have to publically respond to any and every offensive public utterance. that does not mean i don't think they should, or that i'm telling them not to. how hard is this to comprehend?

xpost, again

the distinction between "asking people to tone it down a notch" and "posting online about how you don't understand why people don't tone it down a notch" feels pretty semantic imo

i mean, yes you're not literally posting on someone's "i am outraged by this butthead" facebook post and saying "why are you posting this? take a nap." i get that.

i guess i'm just saying i don't get why people feel the need to announce online that other people are being too pc police online

do people ever do things that you personally don't understand why they do, but you don't object to them doing that thing?

the only thing i "object" to about grimes's tweet is what i believe is its hyperbole. but i don't object to her posting it. i just can't imagine myself doing the same thing.

i apologize for any misunderstanding. i'll leave the thread since this discussion is probably even more boring for everyone else as it is for me.

do people ever do things that you personally don't understand why they do, but you don't object to them doing that thing?

yes, but i think it's ironic you claim not to understand why people would be hyperbolic on the internet when you describe grimes as one of those people on social media (who) feel it's their sworn duty to (often hyperbolically) police every instance of offensive language. like...that's hyperbole too.

if you had said "i don't understand people who feel like they have to put melted cheese on everything" i wouldn't have balked (or at least not as much, cheese is awesome) but in this case i think you're not being fair to people that are coming from a good place and often doing a lot of good

the melted cheese people are doing plenty of good fuiud

well i said "not as much"

One of you, I can't figure out who, needs more sugar in your Mac and cheese

at least Pink and Grimes have one thing in common:
they both think Madonna sucks now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahnUH7wnW30#t=287

MARKERS SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT A BLINK 182 LIVE DVD

I wonder if she’d cover “I Miss You” with me.

whoah, just checked out "Black Ballerina"

it's an Ariel Pink song in which the male protagonist is the hapless ingenue victim of rapacious strippers and pandering older touts- that's some A+ trolling served on a warm bed of Devo-meets-Cameo lite funk

not going to do him any favors re: allegations of misogyny

Ariel's an insane drug-addict. I don't think accusations of misogyny even register with someone like him.

I mean, he's inspired by a guy who wrote a creeptastic love song about lusting after a 10yo girl that dares to be catchy. That boy ain't right.

ill take an insane drug-addict pop savant over almost anyone

oh my god people are saying this is the White Album of our generation FUCK YES!!!!! new song is incredible

lol @ "he's an insane addict, he's not right, he's a badman", is this a Christian parenting board??

Time to drop some truth bombs. Black Ballerina: fun. The spoken-word interlude: Classic AP skit, obviously trying to break taboos. The "misogynistic" outbursts and the contrived "beef" with Grimes: Convenient PR for his new album, and I don't think he doesn't register the hate towards him. It seems like people have been hating on him his whole career and he learned to roll along with it. (Strictly speaking about his public image, persona, work and whatnot here, I don't know how AP behaves in private, but for now I don't care.)

The song is ok I guess,
But I prefer Serious Pink upon "humorous" Pink.

The song is ok I guess,
But I prefer Serious Pink upon "humorous" Pink.

I agree. I also prefer serious Pink. I also prefer serious Zappa over "humorous" Zappa.

I also prefer serious Prince over "sexy" Prince.