to be clear i will not actually do this to ned. i was just making a point.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 7:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Heart u Ned but come on, a private person putting stuff on Facebook doesn't make it ok for a big website or medium to use everything they can find to negatively profile someone just because his father is a douche. It's the stringing together of seemingly unrelated things to make up a profile fitting your idea of someone (or someone's father) that is the scariest thing about this.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
David Brooks' son being in the Israeli army seems relevant at least to the extent that he does at times write about Israel. The rest of it is just kind of catty and pointless.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link
FWIW, I've taken the responses on board and have been thinking off and on about it for the past half hour. The larger points about expectations of privacy/guilt-by-association are well taken. (Though frankly any guy from a fraternity who likes Tucker Max makes me a little skeeved separate from anything else; still, I'm not about to grill every last person who unironically likes the Chive or whatever.) And I'll admit the funniest part to me besides the headline, per Alfred's post, was Podhoretz fully embracing his bitter bastard persona at last; then again I did post the direct link so I can't not own that. Likely wouldn't post it now.
Still, though -- building off Milton Parker said, is it just the world that Gawker made or also something else? I keep thinking about news stories from all over the place essentially now regularly talking about photos on social media, posts, etc. when it comes to someone that figures in it, for whatever reason. I guess I'm more jaded than I realize but I honestly wasn't *surprised* that this could happen, and that may be my own burden to bear.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
I guess I'm just kind of disappointed to see articles that amount to "Hey look at this fuggin guy," let alone about non-public figures.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
But that said, look at this fuggin guy:http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2013/01/Podhoretz_Swim.jpg
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
First line in today's column: "George Eliot was an emotionally needy young woman."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
followed by an account of their prom date
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
Yet what do we mean when we use the word meaning?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
oh boy he's going with Clinton-style epistemology
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
is he dead yet?
― brosario nawson (m bison), Friday, 9 January 2015 00:28 (nine years ago) link
well, he's braindead
― Οὖτις, Friday, 9 January 2015 00:30 (nine years ago) link
colleges should invite terrible speakers more often because hebdo
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 January 2015 05:08 (nine years ago) link
Op-Ed Columnist I Am Not Charlie Hebdo By DAVID BROOKS
Not sure I want to read this
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
absolutely sure I don't
― thinking of a master plan (m coleman), Friday, 9 January 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
I Am Not David Brooks
― Οὖτις, Friday, 9 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
If you read my comment above yours, you've already read it
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 January 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
picturing this column accompanied by a picture of Brooks in a t-shirt that reads "I AM DAVID BROOKS"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 9 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
lol u guys it's so bad though
― man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
To be fair, he's not saying that people who speak out against racial or religious insults are exactly the same as people who walk into an office and murder people. Just, you know, there's a continuum. To be safe, we should stop calling people racists.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 January 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Yet what do we mean when we use the word meaning?― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 8, 2015 1:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 8, 2015 1:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in homage to the events in paris, david brooks will be channeling jacques derrida in this week's column
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Let me put it this way: If we look at the people in history who achieved great things — like Nelson Mandela or Albert Schweitzer or Abraham Lincoln — it wasn’t because they wanted to bathe luxuriously in their own sense of meaningfulness. They had objective and eternally true standards of justice and injustice. They were indignant when those eternal standards were violated. They subscribed to moral systems — whether secular or religious — that recommended specific ways of being, and had specific structures of what is right and wrong, and had specific disciplines about how you might get better over time.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
Even remotely, distantly comparing people protesting a campus speaker to people actually shooting up a newspaper is just so insidious it's unbelievable.
― man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
http://images.politico.com/global/2012/10/121030_david_brooks_605_ap.jpg
Let me put it this way.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Let me tell you, in an eleven-word sentence, about "the people who achieved great things."
― man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Ridicule becomes less fun as you become more aware of your own frequent ridiculousness.
― jmm, Friday, 9 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
that must be an excruciatingly long and slow process for him
― man alive, Friday, 9 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
wicked subtweet
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/when-values-disappear/?_r=1
― mookieproof, Thursday, 12 March 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
That posting is a nice rebuttal to Kristoff's misinterpretation of WJW as well as to Brook's absurd let's punish non-college going Dads for their lack of morals and values thing in a recnet column of his(based on Brooks misinterpretation of Putnam's new Our Kids book)
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
every time i open this thread
http://stack-dog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/0571AE26-7118-4B22-9810-B37B1C100BAE_zpszc2oknoh.png
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/for-david-brooks-the-rich-are-people-the-poor-are-numbers-20150311#ixzz3UG7EQzeE
Matt Taibi v. Brooks
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
Brooks is EXCITED about Marco Rubio! He has *ideas*!
On his first day in office, he handed each legislator a book with the cover “100 Innovative Ideas for Florida’s Future.” The pages were blank. He was inviting his members to fill them in — a nice collaborative touch.
well, I guess that's one way to look at it...
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
my dad has a blank book titled everything i know about sailing; where's his bobodorsement
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/sQGxpot.jpg
― Flow-through nonresident pass-through entity (los blue jeans), Sunday, 26 April 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link
Easy target but couldn't resist.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 April 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link
"Despite all these efforts, there are too many young men leading lives like the one Gray led. He was apparently a kind-hearted, respectful, popular man, but he was not on the path to upward mobility. He won a settlement for lead paint poisoning. According to The Washington Post, his mother was a heroin addict who, in a deposition, said she couldn’t read. In one court filing, it was reported that Gray was four grade levels behind in reading. He was arrested more than a dozen times."
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
this is a more fucked up way to frame the situation than just saying something outright racist.
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
dude was beaten to death for no reason and brooks feels the need to scrutinize his academic record
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
Without connecting it to the fact that he was sufficiently exposed to lead paint at a young age to merit a large settlement. And connecting that to our failures in cities generally.
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
Like, the connection between lead exposure, brain damage and antisocial behavior is sufficiently well-established that not taking the next step in THAT little mental journey is beyond irresponsible. If you feel like that's the nut of this story, tell the whole damned story.
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
I mean, Brooks does address that stuff but he says the failure has to do with the culture of poverty -- avoiding that specific buzz phrase of course because it is rightly derided now. He sees Gray as a "victim" but doesn't point his finger at the institutional racism that is enshrined in policy on the federal, state, and local level. That's what's so insidious about him.
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
He's not crude enough to say "Freddie Gray was a thug and it's his own fault." He blames "systems" just not ones he could be seen as complicit in upholding.
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
and also freddie gray as far as we know didn't engage in much antisocial behavior -- brooks admits as much. and even if he did, that is immaterial. the penalty for whatever it is he might have done over the course of his life isn't supposed to be death.
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
last one: i wouldn't be too quick to make the lead paint-brain damage connection without more evidence. for most people who read below grade level, the problem isn't their capability. usually it's a problem in their educational background, a learning difference that wasn't addressed or something like that
― Treeship, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
In a fantastic interview that David Simon of “The Wire” gave to Bill Keller for The Marshall Project, he describes that, even in poorest Baltimore, there once were informal rules of behavior governing how cops interacted with citizens — when they’d drag them in and when they wouldn’t, what curse words you could say to a cop and what you couldn’t. But then the code dissolved. The informal guardrails of life were gone, and all was arbitrary harshness.That’s happened across many social spheres — in schools, families and among neighbors. Individuals are left without the norms that middle-class people take for granted. It is phenomenally hard for young people in such circumstances to guide themselves.
That’s happened across many social spheres — in schools, families and among neighbors. Individuals are left without the norms that middle-class people take for granted. It is phenomenally hard for young people in such circumstances to guide themselves.
Holy shit.
"Cops are on a rampage. Hey, that reminds me of how poor people have no morality."
― jmm, Friday, 1 May 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
how I would love to stuff David Brooks into a woodchipper
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 May 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
you should be able to say any and all curse words to cops without fear of anything more than a cold stare.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 1 May 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
unless they're off-duty, in which case they might smack you like anyone else.
higher standard
― j., Friday, 1 May 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/opinion/david-brooks-what-is-your-purpose.html?ref=opinion
where is your porpoise?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link