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state 2 and state 3 are equivalent, no?

example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

oh i see why you did that, nm

example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

i majored in quantum mechanics!

― the late great, Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 9 October 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

‘I do not even know what a matrix is’, Heisenberg had lamented when told of the origins of the strange multiplication rule that lay at the heart of his new physics. It was a reaction widely shared among physicists when they were presented with his matrix mechanics.

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

The question reminds me of Bertrand’s paradox from Calcul des probabilités. If you’re unfamiliar with Kolmogorov axioms, don’t read the Wikipedia article until you’ve worked it:

There’re three boxes.

  • contains two gold coins
  • contains two silver coins
  • contains one gold coin and one silver coin
If you randomly choose a box, then randomly choose a coin, and the randomly chosen coin is gold, what’s the probability that the remaining coin in the randomly chosen box is gold?

I love this problem. While it’s similar to Monty Hall, the geometric, probabilistic, and statistical solutions are far more elegant.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 10 October 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

Scott Aaronson likes to describe quantum information thy as the extension of the concept of "probability" to allow negative values/amplitudes.

Interesting, but this interoperation marginalizes probability theory—whose usefulness is due to its simplicity and few dependencies. Information theory, on the other hand, requires a vast and complex framework. Fundamental objects in probability, e.g events and random variables, are easily reducible into the simplest mathematical objects. Hell, this includes continuous interpretations, whose fundamental theorem is simply proved with characteristic functions. While Shannon entropy is formally expressed using expected values and random variables, they aren’t equivalent. It’s far more nuanced than just the addition of negative values. Oh, and Aaronson is an asshole. So that’s probably motivating my nitpicking.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link

2/3, right?

the late great, Friday, 10 October 2014 05:56 (nine years ago) link

Aaronson is an asshole? Tell me more! This is the kind of scuttlebutt I'm really looking for here.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 10 October 2014 08:33 (nine years ago) link

no wait! tell us more about information theory's vast and complex framework

j., Friday, 10 October 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link

Aaronson is an asshole? Tell me more! This is the kind of scuttlebutt I'm really looking for here.

He wrongly threw my former advisor under the bus. It still pisses me off.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 10 October 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link

no wait! tell us more about information theory's vast and complex framework

LOL. This is what happens when I drink a bottle of wine before posting.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 10 October 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

i am serious!

j., Friday, 10 October 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

ok good to know! I really like his work (& er know someone who has to write about it) so I like to know about who I'm going to laud

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 10 October 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

i've heard a few explanations of how you can look at quantum stuff not just as a generalization of probability, but even more basically of logic. you just do the right sort of algebraic setup and let your variables "vary" over a different, weirder domain.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Saturday, 11 October 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

Anyone read any of this guy's stuff? http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/03/03/numbers-guy

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

it's great. i know some of his work with his students on the munduruku (sp?) re their grasp of small numbers and then another category for "bigger than small" rather than more different numbers. So like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 big

Also the tribe people get a diff number concept just from learning in schools taught in European languages.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Thanks. Wonder if it's worth reading his number sense book, or any of the others.

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

Number Sense is the famous one. could just look for articles on the net if you want a sample before buying

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Grothendieck is dead.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

RIP :(

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link

Thought revive would be for tomorrow's anniversary of Euler's formula V - E + F = 2.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link

RIP BIG G

the late great, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link

Grothendiecks to watch out for

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

Been reading Four Colors Suffice: How the Map Problem was Solved, by Robin J. Wilson, which is very well done, informative and entertaining. If you don't believe me, there is a rave review by John H. Conway on the back.

Here is a related cheat sheet: http://www.mei.org.uk/files/conference07/A2.pdf

Here is review in the AMS: http://www.ams.org/notices/200402/rev-toft.pdf

Also dipping into related book: Euler's Gem: The Polyhedron Formula and the Birth of Topology
By David S. Richeson

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

Kuratowski's original paper, in French, on a Polish website: http://matwbn.icm.edu.pl/ksiazki/fm/fm15/fm15126.pdf

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

A translation and helpful introduction can be found in Graph Theory 1736-1936, by Norman L. Biggs, E. Keith Lloyd, and Robin J. Wilson.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

In which they explain that "gauche" translates to "non-planar."

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

OK, found a good Dover book on graph theory, if anyone is interested. Has a lot of nice biographical background stuff in addition to the mathematical content, which historical material also includes some relevant graphs with names of mathematicians and scientists in them. Just learned Einstein's Erdös number from one of these latter.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 November 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

attn euler in particular: are you familiar with rodin and with "axiomatic method and category theory" (http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1478) and do you have any opinions w/r/t such?

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link

hah I know rodin extremely well! both as a person and as a scholar. he's a category theory partisan, but he knows lots of other math too, and some philo as well. I haven't read the book though. I think it just appeared with springer?

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Enigma:The Movie means Enigma:The Book is back in print. It seems to have been out of since the first run, thirty some odd years ago.

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

u guys ever watch those Geometry Center videos? i was introduced to them during my self-ban. easily the best thing ever created

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGLPbSMxSUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gLNlC_hQ3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO61D9x6lNY

flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Guess it actually came out again in 2012 for Turing centennary. (xp to self)

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link

flopson otm

the late great, Friday, 23 January 2015 07:12 (nine years ago) link

Will check those out, thx

Mike j'Abo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 January 2015 07:21 (nine years ago) link

need part 2 of knot not

the late great, Friday, 23 January 2015 07:52 (nine years ago) link

ya wtf fuck you bbc worldwide

flopson, Friday, 23 January 2015 08:07 (nine years ago) link

you could hit this guy up i guess http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/video/AKPeters.html

flopson, Friday, 23 January 2015 08:10 (nine years ago) link

http://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781568814537

$1/minute

the late great, Friday, 23 January 2015 08:38 (nine years ago) link

my best friend who made me love math got accepted to stanford math phd, super proud. he's a major genius and has an amazing gift for explaining the simple mindblowing idea at the heart of a complex topic. gonna miss him as i live really far from cali but still

flopson, Sunday, 25 January 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link

^like

Mike j'Abo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 January 2015 03:18 (nine years ago) link

did vahid go to stanf?

flopson, Sunday, 25 January 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link

No idea

Mike j'Abo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 January 2015 03:29 (nine years ago) link

not really ... vahid got a masters in education and did his teaching credential at stanford, his undergrad was at cal and that was in physical chemistry, not math ...

the late great, Sunday, 25 January 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link


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