well glenn i guess you wont be posting anymore
http://i.imgur.com/2Ph8aJw.gif
updates
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
ahaha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
no arrests were made
http://bedfordandbowery.com/2014/10/scahill-greenwald-and-poitras-on-obama-isis-and-new-snowden-doc-citizen-four/
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 October 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
i was detained at the border and all my thumb drives were removed from their ziploc bag
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 October 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
^^^ sexx talk
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
http://inthesetimes.com/article/17403/reports_from_inside_first_look_media_suggest_that_maybe_silicon_valley_shou
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
intercept still goin
Betsy Reed @betsyreed2 4h4 hours agoI will miss The Nation, which I will always love, but I could not be more excited to be joining @the_intercept
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link
Has his readership decreased since leaving the guardian? Never hear about him anymore but that might just be because being outraged at the nsa isn't trendy now
― Treeship, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
dunno prob, smaller platform, also big layoff
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
I assumed his readers, at least, would follow him. I used to be a fan in college but was annoyed by his alwaysalreadyoutraged/exasperated tone, which in 2014 seems like the only writing style that still exists
― Treeship, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
sure hes got hardcore readers but if ur writing for a big org like the guardian ppl just see yr stuff too
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
i used to read him on blogspot btw og greenwald
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
I started reading with salon. Thats when i first really became aware of commenters
― Treeship, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
og greenwald
― lag∞n, Friday, December 5, 2014 12:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is this a weed name yet
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
annoyed by his alwaysalreadyoutraged/exasperated tone, which in 2014 seems like the only writing style that still exists― Treeship, Friday, December 5, 2014 8:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Treeship, Friday, December 5, 2014 8:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is otm
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 6 December 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link
I have to say, one of the benefits of Tuesday, despite all my frustrations with the process, is that it has prevented anybody from denying that America tortured — and not just in the three cases of waterboarding. It actually has been a disinfectant of that central lie. I mean, for a long time, that was the debate; it wasn’t “Is torture good?” it was “These things aren’t torture!” Dick Cheney described [waterboarding] as dunking people’s head into water.
What was really annoying for those of us who were actually [covering] this is that the waterboarding was almost the least of it. It was the easiest case to call torture because there was a whole body of law calling waterboarding torture; but [the larger issue] was the entire regiment of techniques that they were using that clearly constituted torture — not on dozens or even hundreds but thousands of people, and not just at Guantánamo but around the world. It was a systematic regime of torture, and I think yesterday’s report has prevented that from being denied any longer.
And that’s why people like Nicolle Wallace and others are now resorting either to “Yes, we tortured, and we should have!” (which I think is a healthy thing to force them to say) or “Yes, we tortured, and we shouldn’t have, but we’re still the greatest thing ever to exist.”
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/11/exclusive_corrupt_toxic_and_sociopathic_glenn_greenwald_unloads_on_torture_cia_and_washingtons_rotten_soul/
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
corrupt_toxic_and_sociopathic_glenn_greenwald
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald 14m14 minutes agoOver the last decade, some of the worst human rights abuses in Cuba have taken place at this dungeon called .... "Guantanamo".
LOL
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
the entire regiment of techniques
GET 1 (ONE) PROOFREADER.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
it was a verbal interview
― Vic Perry, Thursday, 18 December 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
Unless GG very clearly pronounced the "t," I assume that whoever transcribed it introduced the error bc they didn't know the difference. This is why everything needs proofreaders.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 18 December 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
That makes sense.
― Vic Perry, Thursday, 18 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
@LilianaSegura There's editing at the bar. And there's editing at the Port Authority bowling alley bar with @ggreenwald & @jeremyscahill. Our finest work.
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Links to 4 excellent articles from the last month's worth of The Intercept, only one of which is by Greenwald, & NONE of which are about the NSA (aw, so boring! so tiresomely "trendy", "being outraged at the NSA"....folks (not 'tortured' folks) here at ILXOR are all far too cool for):
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/16/u-s-tv-media-gives-ample-platform-american-torturers-victims/
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/17/billion-dollar-surveillance-blimp-launch-maryland/
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/17/barrett-brown-sentenced/
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/20/everything-know-shooting-michael-brown-darren-wilson/
― Vic Perry, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
ilx is world renown for its dispassionate, Realpolitik approach to politics
― Mordy, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link
I Am Trying To Break Your Heart - Wilco
― Vic Perry, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link
http://nick.kinja.com/my-reply-slightly-edited-once-nick-unveiled-his-lets-1678511512/
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Sunday, 11 January 2015 06:07 (nine years ago) link
watch as they morph into the media barons they once despised
― lag∞n, Sunday, 11 January 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link
I have no idea why something about that exchange is supposed to be revelatory.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 January 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
is it... are u...
― lag∞n, Sunday, 11 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
update
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/i-live-in-terror-of-the-fanatic-who-has-only-read-one-story-whether-hes-an-islamist-murderer-or-glenn-greenwald-9984017.html
love that url
― Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
what the hell is that?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 19 January 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mDjRVwzBL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
I love the way Mordy keeps doubling down on the stupid long after his little gee-ha-ha-had on Greenwald has utterly gone wrong-side-of-history.
From the "awesome" url posted:
"A Paris jihadist spoke of turning to terror after seeing Americans torturing Iraqi prisoners on television. It is not to defend such barbarities to say they were but one side of a savage conflict. They too had a past."
defend the indefensible: torture. Right man, there was probably a really good reason for that stuff. Let's hear what it was.
"They did not express the immutable will or character of the American people."
No it wasn't "immutable." After falling all over themselves to support it and freaking out at all dissent, the American people then comfortably blamed it on Bush as soon as they realized it was a stupid move, and all talk of the overwhelming support of 2003 went bye-bye.
"A half-truth is a half-lie."
This is just too brilliant for me to mess with. Go on.
"The invasion of Iraq, however botched, had a past we falsify if we see it only as a story of Western skulduggery."
Right, there was some "good way" to do the "invasion of Iraq".
"It is a false tale, falsely told, that Israelis wantonly butcher children in Gaza."
Right "wantonly" is unfair. Buh-bye now.
― Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 01:25 (nine years ago) link
"wrong-side-of-history" < i love this phrase on the left. just keep repeating it over and over and you start to feel like everyone agrees w/ you, or if they don't, at least history will vindicate yr beliefs after yr death
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 01:36 (nine years ago) link
i don't think that greenwald is beyond criticism but that article is pretty damned stupid.
also and fuck the guy who wrote this forever:
A Paris jihadist spoke of turning to terror after seeing Americans torturing Iraqi prisoners on television. It is not to defend such barbarities to say they were but one side of a savage conflict. They too had a past. They did not express the immutable will or character of the American people. A half-truth is a half-lie. The invasion of Iraq, however botched, had a past we falsify if we see it only as a story of Western skulduggery.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 19 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah god forbid we have any nuance in politics, it might obscure our agenda
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link
"vidicate yr beliefs after yr death"???? Mordy, believe it or not I don't have any ill will for you....nah, that's too steep of a belief curve to try to pitch.
So. You are a couple of years past the wrong side of history, at least, with this thread title and continued provocations. Wrong side of history chosen not by the "left", much less by me personally, but by establishment media figures: Pulitzer Prize, great reviews for the book, Oscar nomination for the movie related to the work, you get the picture. Warm relations with Steven Colbert, Rachel Maddow, Bill Moyers, Ta-Nehesi Coates, too name a few. New York Times doing cute story about his dogs. You get the picture.
You wanted to portray Greenwald as a hateful fringe figure. You lost ages ago. If you are right about him, know that you are occupying a much more lonely place than you probably imagined. Go all Nietzsche on the mountaintop (or Moses on the mountaintop, or Julie Andrews on the mountaintop) if you need to, but don't try to act like you speak for some kind of average sensible position anymore.
― Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
i think the world's had enough 'nuanced' takes on the most destructive and inexcusable act of u.s. foreign policy of the last 50 years, thx very much
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 19 January 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link
vic perry, believe it or not i have no idea who you are (maybe an old poster w/ a new dn) but you have yet to offer anything interesting enough to be worth responding to so if u forgive me i'll leave you to start your own glenn greenwald thread and stay off mine.
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link
believe it or not I don't have any ill will for you....nah, that's too steep of a belief curve to try to pitch.
like what kind of nonsense is this? sub-morbius ilx poster has ill will for me? god get over yourself.
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link
Nope, I don't believe it, since you attacked me by name just a couple of weeks ago. Presumably you have so many fights you can't actually remember to whom you are responding anymore?
― Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link
oh wow i totally know who you are now the guy who said something stupid a couple of weeks ago
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I'm that guy, the vaguely anti-somethingorother blur you flail at before losing consciousness.
― Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:10 (nine years ago) link
that was sarcasm bro.
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:11 (nine years ago) link
It's okay, the internet remembers everything for you.
― Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:14 (nine years ago) link
Anyway, is this "your" thread? You have some kind of say over who posts here, and what they say?
― Vic Perry, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link
"You are a couple of years past the wrong side of history, at least, with this thread title and continued provocations."
i was just trying to say if it bothers you so much you don't have to hang out here
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link
woah, i just noticed -- "continued provocations" who knows what to do w/ that. are you glenn greenwald?
― Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link