the cult of dilla, c/d?

I'll never forgive him for that Compared to What Coke spot

common has had some joints IMO...esp first couple of albums, but there's even his more hippie stuff that i like

get an idea about hiphop before you comment in the j dilla thread, might that be too much to ask?

Yes. Next question.

haha

yes what is all this hippin and a hoppin the kids are doing these days?

i've never seen one of these shirts in melbourne but i bet they're out there, we can be pretty corny about hip-hop.

plz explain 2 me rap/ravecore scene

that might be too much to ask

Common, has been and always will be, terrible. Saw him on his "Hotel Common" tour, laughably bad. Everything I've heard of his I have actively disliked.

― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, March 16, 2009 6:45 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sftu shakey mo

i agree 100% w/ pipecock about like water for chocolate

'doin it' is A+++

i find the nerdery around dilla beats kind of interesting, actually

but then i like finding out why stuff works the way it does

hes not my favorite producer ever, he made some great songs & did it w/ a specific focus on craft that can be interesting. I liked hearing questlove's story about how he did the 'doin it' beat in like 15 mins when they were playing a game trying to see if folks could make a beat out of a random record pulled from the stacks. good story

the cult is 'annoying' but more annoying is being broke, having ants in my kitchen & not getting a call back from a chick i like

sometimes ppl around here are way too subculturally butthurt
wahhh nerds are corny

^has been my fav/most played song the past couple months. and i usually hate rap tracks with singsong choruses.

even better off that album was the dwele track 'dime piece remix'

yeah not feeling that one at all
shakey if you can't get past perceived lameness wrt to common and appreciate the musical backing throughout Like Water for Choc then I just feel sorry for ya

haha that being said i have a hard time getting past my dislike of nu rnb crooning to appreciate dime piece

i feel sorry for myself :((

maybe u just never met a dime piece :D

btw common raps his ass off on lwfc also -- 'he fell off cuz i pushed him'

wow, another pipecock-baiting thread. you'd think everybody on this board was on his nutz.

pipecock baiting, really?? sounds more like yr on his nutz if u think this thread is 'about' him

my bad. this thread is about people who hate people who like dilla of which pipecock is just a measly number. carry on with your awesome thread!

this is not really what i had in mind when i started this thread

i just wonder whether his "influence" has been broadly overstated in some quarters

thanks pipecock for ruining another thread, though

my bad for being the first to invoke him, but it would have happened eventually

has he ruined 51 threads yet

"thanks pipecock for ruining another thread, though

― moonship journey to baja"

so it's my fault that people talk shit on me when i'm not even posting in a thread? *I* ruined it?!?! come on, son.

lol'd at "dudcock"

i think this Bullion ep i heard this weekend deserves post-dilla scorn

it was pretty o_O until you got here, when it suddenly got ... ruh ... ruh ... ruh ... ruhruhruhtuhtuhaaaaaaaaded

i hate hip hop music because of ilm's whining

ILM prefers a "Burial changed my life" shirt. This is sad

Shitty thread with a lot of cooler than thou fronting. Very tired of hearing about how lame folks think nerds are. J dilla > the bug

rap nerds are great cause you find out about shit like this:

why is there so much negative feeling on this thread??!?!??!?!? it was an innocent question!

btw i am listening to beatkonducta 5/6 for the 4th time today as i write this. especially digging on track 13 : "when you're faced with ... doubt, have no fear"

also like the sun ra quote about "discipline and precision" and the bit with the guy going "i can't understand, i'm trying to understand"

i just wonder about stuff like this that has a bigass "j dilla changed the game forever" essay in the booklet

also what do you guys think of herbs in all-stussy outfits and bamboo elk leather sneakers buying anything that mentions "jay dee" in the PR on sight, is that classic or dud

why is there so much negative feeling on this thread??!?!??!?!? it was an innocent question!

lol, then "let the dead rest". what didja expect?

If kids want to believe that j dilla or other talented people who have died changed the game, let em. why do you care so much about this?

FREE DILLA

cause dilla changed my life ;_;

haha I'm glad someone said something. Donuts wasn't even as good as Beat Konducta 1 & 2, come on.

But how does it compare to big and rich

u need some icy hot for dat ass or what deej

people people why are we fighting

f all this whining, this is my jam

hes classic, the fans are almost all dud.

the bbe welcome to detroit album, ruff draft, slum village's fantastic 1 and 2 (they shd never have split up cos he did his best stuff with them) and the j88 ep are all classic. i think what he did with tribe on the love movement is beatwise at least, classic too (that album is unfairly panned in general - in a way i wish dilla had someone like tip working with him later on cos i think a lot of his beats could have done with someone making them sound less like demos). i never much liked lwfc, barring a few songs (always thought the beats were twee).

dilla was just amazingly hit and miss, tho you did get the occasional gem (and half the time he worked with average mcs, or the guys he did work with didnt have much chemistry with him - most of my favourite dilla tracks are those with him rapping). most of the obsessiveness about him seems to come from producers who think we can all hear the amazing technique that they see him using when hes making beats. most of the time tho, we cant.

"i just wonder whether his "influence" has been broadly overstated in some quarters"

it has and it hasnt. detroit producers like black milk have obv been influenced, then theres sa-ra and all those guys, and i dunno if its just me, but a fair amount of that dr dre programming like on that last busta album seemed dilla influenced to me too (its just funkier and fuller).

^^^by far the best post of this thread