sun kil moon?

Right, and he didn't choose John Mellencamp because he's an old dude trying to stay relevant to the younger crowd. He chose Mellencamp because he is trying to punch up. He thinks he is punching up at TWOD as well, and he is in some ways. Still, the pitchfork essay was worthwhile given the praise and exposure given to his choice of hate filled language. It's just weird that the essay also contains this incorrect and ageist analysis of kozelek's motivation for his word choice.

he covered Ted Nugent recently. He is not gunning for the hearts of youngsters.

it's all over now, baby blue

It's absurd to me that this incident has received such extended analysis. That said, Drew kinda nails it.

Oh, and Robert, I'm generally with you on your rankings. Rock and Roll Singer should be next on your search list. Also the Hultsfred 1997 live versions of Old Ramon tracks are far superior to the studio versions.

stone temple pilots, they're elegant bachelors

Thanks Doug.

old ramon was a huge disappointment when it finally came out. we sat around and waited to hear that for years. it's less irritating now but at the time, eh.

Is that live bootleg big among fans? There is one song in particular I'd love to hear but can't remember the title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhjAF9oQyc

Sorry that the clip doesn't embed.

Listening to it now, I'm baffled by how P4k could get so excited about Benji. It's like stanning for Lou Reed's Take No Prisoners at the expense of the entire back-catalog of the Velvet Underground.

Take No Prisoners rules!

i love old ramon but then i've never actually heard that bootleg

guitar tone on old ramon is the most gorgeous thing

kinda kozelek agnostic, but i love most of old ramon.

the best thing on Old Ramon is indeed Phil Carney's guitar.

channeling Steve Hackett

I hadn't yet picked up on the Hackett comparison, must now relisten

some bullshit about this in pitchfork: " "Suck my cock" is a command heard most often in two places: heterosexual porn, and schoolyard taunts between presumably straight boys" such a joyless reading i mean lots of people say suck my cock in contexts that are much more fun. i bet there are plenty of dyke power tops who have used it and meant it as an example, obviously there are more. if you presume everything takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality then of course everything can be read as the violent product of this culture but i mean who has the time

srsly who could think a mark kozelek song takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality

dude totally could be imitating dyke power tops

i just got a promo of mark's new solo album, and he has really gone off the deep end this time...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1911787_10153393520727137_6536637952645129286_n.jpg?oh=7261f1826b19307d3151bd9c82f7a016&oe=54CA9702&__gda__=1425446482_e3ea6b9354ec16fd27a885e8961c0785

Did someone say power hops? Because I could sure go for a cool, refreshing 9% abv IPA.

War on Drugs, suck my hops

lol

I know tomorrow
You will be somewhere in London
Living with someone
you want some kind of trumpeter to play two
and that's just what i'm gonna give you
*solo*

Looked around for the Old Ramon song I loved and it's "Void". Fucking great song.

I haven't read the insults, listened to the song or read the articles, but all the controversy has put me in the most Kozelek hungry I've been in years.

"Kozelek. Now available with aspartame."

if you listen to the end of void, the intertwined lead guitars (which is carney overdubbed) absolutely sounds like Hackett circa Nursery Cryme.

I guess I'm an outlier but my favorite Kozelek period is Songs From a Blue Guitar/Old Ramon/If You Want Blood/Ghosts of the Great Highway.

I know tomorrow
You will be somewhere in London
Living with someone
you want some kind of trumpeter to play two
and that's just what i'm gonna give you
*solo*

― da croupier, Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:22 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Amazing

Kool Kat Song

srsly who could think a mark kozelek song takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality

― da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:13 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but you find what you want in a culture. a hermeneutics of intent is a pretty pointless way of reading anything but hey i guess you could ring up david lynch and ask him what the log lady means.

stop trying to lie to us like her log didn't see something that night

Is Retrospective worth getting for the demos and live versions?

Is Retrospective worth getting for the demos and live versions?

No.

Yes.

it's ok. you can probably find it incredibly cheap.

I haven't read the insults, listened to the song or read the articles, but all the controversy has put me in the most Kozelek hungry I've been in years.

Mission Accomplished.

plax otm

constant

damn yall some limber motherfuckers with the gymnastics in this thread

stop objectifying us

everybody's moved on to the Grimes/Ariel Pink beef now anyway

can't wait to see what next week has in store!

speaking of dried beef

BEEF CROSSOVER http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/98711973564/people-who-dont-like-the-smashing-pumpkins-can

survivorman once ate some beef that had crossed over

http://pitchfork.com/news/57253-mark-kozelek-adam-granofsky-blues/

oops he did it again

Seriously Mark. This is some full fledged bullying! I mean, I kinda had this theory that he's been doing this to clown all of the media outlets that are since Benji suddenly paying close attention to the things he's always been doing. But damn.