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Yeah that was my thought too, more or less.

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

ilm busts out the extra powerful textual analysis magnifying glass for sun kil moon song "war on drugs: suck my cock"

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

great thread

marcos, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

anyways, fuck this guy imo

marcos, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

Admiral Fell Promises forever! (also ghosts)

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

April is good too.

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

maybe MK and chris ott (if he hasn't clipped himself yet) could band together and form like the hipsterati version of that MRA group a voice for men can you imagine the thinkpieces and (justified) outrage that would spawn.

hey mark and chris if you see this i'd like my intellectual property payment in ones and fives please

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

Is there any real consensus on the best Kozelek releases?

As I said earlier, I think the first two RHP albums are amongst the best music I've ever heard. The 3rd album and the 1st EP are in that same sweet area.
Ocean Beach and Old Ramon was mostly lukewarm for me but had some great tracks too. I really love Songs For A Blue Guitar.
Haven't heard the RHP tribute album stuff (was it the John Denver one with Slowdive's Rachel Goswell? I heard that was the last RHP stuff).

I mostly liked Ghosts Of The Great Highway, especially the incredible "Duk Koo Kim".
I mildly enjoyed April and didn't get much from Admiral Fell Promises. Some people vastly prefer Sun Kil Moon to early RHP but I just don't get that.

My ranking

Red House Painters- I (rollercoaster)
Red House Painters- Down Colorful Hill
Red House Painters- Songs For A Blue Guitar
Red House Painters- II (bridge)
Sun Kil Moon- Ghosts Of The Great Highway
Red House Painters- Shock Me EP
Red House Painters- Ocean Beach
Sun Kil Moon- April
Red House Painters- Old Ramon
Sun Kil Moon- Admiral Fell Promises

What do you recommend next? Are the AC/DC cover albums still favourites?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

guys...sayin "fuck this guy"...not really that diff from him tellin war on drugs bro to suck his cock...

...think about it

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

#whoa

katherine, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

#STAYWOKE

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

mind blown

marcos, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

sorry mark kozelek

marcos, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

In no way does the ilx poster actually want mark kozelek fucked by the other posters of ilx. Who fucks kozelek? Like seriously, I look at him and think 'who would fuck kozelek?' Can you believe I work in a bank? You're losing it guy, and it shows. But at night, I'm crazy. I'm the king of the blogs. Fuck this guy, right?! Fuck this guy!

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

I don't really care much about Sun Kil Moon or Perfect Pussy, but I thought that was a good essay. Also I like War on Drugs a lot. So fuck this guy.

jaymc, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

jfc yall are fuckin morons sometimes

adam, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

Who's fucking Christ? Not kozelek.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

Who's fuckin morons? Not kozelek.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

hey everybody come and look at the violence inherent in the system

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

mark kozelek would never stoop to such a level god how gross

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

No results found for "mark hoselick"

― john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

aaahahahahahaha outstanding

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

Drew Daniel from Matmos kind of dropped some knowledge on this topic:

https://twitter.com/DDDrewDaniel

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link

OTM. The ageist parts of the essay didn't even make sense anyway.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

also, the two main ottawa folk festival stages did point directly at each other this year. they at least angled them away from each other in previous years. come on, ottawa!

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it was weird. Mark Kozelek isn't sliding into irelevance, he is more popular than ever. And actually, 'white guys who were big in the nineties' is pretty much the new black in the industry atm. None of those are particularly good things, imo, but it is what it is.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

Right, and he didn't choose John Mellencamp because he's an old dude trying to stay relevant to the younger crowd. He chose Mellencamp because he is trying to punch up. He thinks he is punching up at TWOD as well, and he is in some ways. Still, the pitchfork essay was worthwhile given the praise and exposure given to his choice of hate filled language. It's just weird that the essay also contains this incorrect and ageist analysis of kozelek's motivation for his word choice.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link

he covered Ted Nugent recently. He is not gunning for the hearts of youngsters.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link

it's all over now, baby blue

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

It's absurd to me that this incident has received such extended analysis. That said, Drew kinda nails it.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link

Oh, and Robert, I'm generally with you on your rankings. Rock and Roll Singer should be next on your search list. Also the Hultsfred 1997 live versions of Old Ramon tracks are far superior to the studio versions.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link

stone temple pilots, they're elegant bachelors

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link

Thanks Doug.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

old ramon was a huge disappointment when it finally came out. we sat around and waited to hear that for years. it's less irritating now but at the time, eh.

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link

Is that live bootleg big among fans? There is one song in particular I'd love to hear but can't remember the title.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 11:24 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhjAF9oQyc

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

Sorry that the clip doesn't embed.

Listening to it now, I'm baffled by how P4k could get so excited about Benji. It's like stanning for Lou Reed's Take No Prisoners at the expense of the entire back-catalog of the Velvet Underground.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link

Take No Prisoners rules!

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link

i love old ramon but then i've never actually heard that bootleg

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

guitar tone on old ramon is the most gorgeous thing

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

kinda kozelek agnostic, but i love most of old ramon.

tylerw, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link

the best thing on Old Ramon is indeed Phil Carney's guitar.

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

channeling Steve Hackett

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

I hadn't yet picked up on the Hackett comparison, must now relisten

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

some bullshit about this in pitchfork: " "Suck my cock" is a command heard most often in two places: heterosexual porn, and schoolyard taunts between presumably straight boys" such a joyless reading i mean lots of people say suck my cock in contexts that are much more fun. i bet there are plenty of dyke power tops who have used it and meant it as an example, obviously there are more. if you presume everything takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality then of course everything can be read as the violent product of this culture but i mean who has the time

plax (ico), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

srsly who could think a mark kozelek song takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality

da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

dude totally could be imitating dyke power tops

da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

Did someone say power hops? Because I could sure go for a cool, refreshing 9% abv IPA.

how's life, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

War on Drugs, suck my hops

Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link


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