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could imagine warren drugs being able to laugh at the stuff aimed at him though

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

looking forward to his new album, Finally Getting Publicity

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Warren Druggs vs. Sunkle Moone

Evan, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

that sounds like a dope outlaw country record

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

Some backstory: here and here (scroll down).

o. nate, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link

"spoiled bitch rich kid blogger brat"

fuck that

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link

this is the best song koz has done in years

akm, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link

This is completely horrible and lazy and not funny, no idea how anyone made it all the way through it

Simon H., Wednesday, 8 October 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link

this is the best song koz has done in years

Yup, and therein lies the tragedy.

doug watson, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 09:51 (nine years ago) link

Although I will give Koz points for referring to it as the Ottawa Bleedfest. Thanks to the same management, we now have this flawed template for two of our biggest music festivals.

doug watson, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 09:56 (nine years ago) link

he's on some shia labeouf shit lately, nagl

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link

Had he been to rehab before?

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link

when he was 14

Number None, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

kinda feels like this is leading up to heading back there

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

I'm not sure any of this is drug/alcohol related. He's been saying this kind of shit at gigs for years. It's just now he's got Pitchfork etc. covering his every move.

Number None, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link

^

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

Yeah honestly I can't tell if this is a sign of darker things or just a high-profile bored trolling

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

I'm not sure any of this is drug/alcohol related. He's been saying this kind of shit at gigs for years. It's just now he's got Pitchfork etc. covering his every move.

decades

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

i mean jeers to calling a woman a bad word, but cheers to an old crank making the internet's beef obsession work for him

don't really understand people saying this is far and away his best or worst song of late - pretty guitars with stream-of-conscious hyper-personal lyrics, seems fairly par for course

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

seems like the dude just comes up with a lick and then croons whatever's on his mind over it, be it they might be giants lyrics or his shopping list

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

i mean jeers to calling a woman a bad word, but cheers to an old crank making the internet's beef obsession work for him

otm

I think the anti-fan commentary is fascinating. When I was a teenager I wrote Mark a few letters, he always replied. In fact, I, for whatever reason, stopped our correspondence. I still order from Caldo Verde and the notes and knick knacks he includes strike me as sincere and personal gesture of gratitude.

He’s very much a pre-Internet performer. I think closeness for fans today is very different than it was when Red House Painters emerged. It’s far more personal for him. He’ll never retweet or reblog and I think that’s fine.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

oh god the pitchfork article on this. STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THE TROLL PEOPLE.

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

dunno, personally i would rather someone call out high-profile macho bullshit as such than just report it tmz-style

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

kinda hard not to pay attention to a troll who's this dedicated to not shutting the f--- up. yes he seems to have always been like this, and yes people are paying more attention now b/c outlets beyond the hipsterverse have discovered benji, and editors know that this crap gets clicks. but if it doesn't exist with this frequency no one writes on it. and for the record, if it's dumb trolly behavior, so what if it's only being covered with such frequency now? that doesn't make it less annoying, especially for someone who appreciates how good his music is independent of all this. if it didn't involve calling someone a stupid bitch and using homophobic language, it'd just be mildly pathetic. but it does do those things.

as for the p4k pitch post, no mark kozelek might not have active fantasies about forcing buzz bands to fellate him and is definitely trolling but his language does tie into the systemic things that meredith graves is discussing.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

if it didn't involve calling someone a stupid bitch and using homophobic language, it'd just be mildly pathetic. but it does do those things.

How many of Pitchfork’s Top 100 Tracks of 2015 will include a lyric calling someone “a stupid bitch” and homophobic language?

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

(I should emphasize that I don’t think anyone should do either and that’s changed my music preferences dramatically …)

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

oh wow that's gotta be a landspeed record for finding a way to indict rap music damn bruh

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

if it had even been like, a good song, or had a real point, honestly i could probably find a way to let those things go. maybe i'm a hypocrite for letting it go in a fair amount of the rap music i love. so the hell be it.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

maybe i'm a hypocrite for letting it go in a fair amount of the rap music i love. so the hell be it.

― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:44 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i say this as a rap fan: there is no "maybe"

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

the one 100% true fact about this is that the song is currently playing in the daily tar heel office, like right now

katherine, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

welp, there it is. oh to the well.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

xp the DTH can lick my boots

Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

That whole p4k article blows details way out of proportion, honestly.

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

Ha. Wow. That article...

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

(n.b. I don't know this for a fact. but I also... kinda know it for a fact)

katherine, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

So happy with that article, fist-pumps for days

Life is full of shopportunities (fgti), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

"war on drugs suck my cock" sounds like that acoustic version of "i kill everything i fuck" that an ilxor recorded 10 years ago

example (crüt), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

yeah Meredith Graves' article was excellent, fuck this guy

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

it never really would have occurred to me that the red house painters guy's cock would become erect in the first place so this whole scandal seems absurd

j., Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

suck my cock is maybe as homophobic a phrase as perfect pussy is transphobic a phrase. they're also equally terrible phrases to use for your music band.

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

the allusions to emotional & physical abuse in the lyrics of red house painters songs used to make me distressed to the point of nausea when I was a sad teen. now I don't listen to RHP anymore (save for an occasional revisit of "bubble" from the bridge album which has a nice melody)

example (crüt), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

the whole troll campaign is so lame, i dont think he's off his rocker, he's just trying to make some money and get some attention and succeeding, but he's such a nasty prick, calling a journalist a "spoiled bitch" and using "suck my cock" as an insult, it's a bit out of date, no?

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

I thought the analysis of "suck my cock" was reaching quite a bit. I definitely agree it is very douchey though.

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

"suck my cock" as an insult isnt much different from calling someone a fag/bitch/cunt, whatever- this graf:

Which is why, in all likelihood, Kozelek chose to say "suck my cock" instead of "I think your band is bad." "Suck my cock" is a command heard most often in two places: heterosexual porn, and schoolyard taunts between presumably straight boys. In no way does Mark Kozelek actually want his cock sucked by the members of the War on Drugs. What he wants is to make them feel violated, to make them feel submissive. "Suck my cock" is an order, not a request. "Suck my cock" is, when used by the wrong person, the language of physical force, the language of rape. He wants the world to know that he thinks TWOD sucks cock, implying that sucking cock is a bad thing. Who sucks cock? Not straight dudes like Mark Kozelek, but women and gay men. Which one of these groups is he using as an insult?

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

although i think it's safe to say "suck my cock" appears in almost all forms of pornography where a cock is involved

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

lol

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

even fake ones!

j., Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

it never really would have occurred to me that the red house painters guy's cock would become erect in the first place so this whole scandal seems absurd

― j., Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:12 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah dude's music is SO PUSSY right bro

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

hey antidepressants are no joke

j., Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link


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